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| Sept. 19 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | I remember reading an eloquent and articulate statement from SSUSA regarding the banning of Gary 19 from the board as he had been banned from other boards. It was a difficult decision to make but the right one. Now SSUSA has learned that he has reappeared as the Nexst Generation and allows him to post. What's changed? Did I miss a "restatement" from SSUSA regarding it's policies? Did I miss a staterment from SSUSA regarding subsequent re-evaluation of Gary 19's contribution and affect? Did I miss an apology by Gary for his systematic ignorance and hi-jacking of threads? Did I miss a statement from Gary that he would not continue in his self-centered and ignorant ways. Are we to interpret that only the Moniker, Gary 19, has been banned and not the guy using that name? Would SSUSA risk losing considerable respect just to keep from having to say "NO" to this cynic? What's going on and what do you think is going on? |
| Sept. 19 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Joe, email Dave, and ask. I did. |
| Sept. 19 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Dave, this guy is dumber than ever I imagined. I know he basically said his life sucks, but wow talk about beating a dead horse! |
| Sept. 19 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | TNG, Gary, I think you really need to let it be. Perhaps he does as well. But he isn't the one trying to always get the last word in. Maybe I am, I post alot.... But he wasn't trying to hide who, what or where he is, you were, still are. Lighten up, you may last awhile longer that way. $ 00.02 st |
| Sept. 19 4x4 Men's 65 601 posts | Gary19/TNG and whatever names you are called by. The members of this board tried to give you patience and credibility during your last go around and you failed to earn anything on the credibility end; everyone was more than patient. Now, for the short term, you have been given another chance. Rather than embrace it and become a valuable contributing member you choose to continue your assault on members of the board (holding DD as both your champion and shield). Cool it and contribute and work to make yourself a welcome member of the board pro or con of opinions without rancor. Screw it up gain and you'll be on the outside looking in. You - nor I - nor anyone else is absolutely a neccessary cog in the wheel here. WE ARE GUESTS = act like it's a priviledge to contribute - NOT TO RIP AWAY. A word to the wise is sufficient - change your act and please be wiser for the experience. Thanks, Pete Delagne Mustangs/#13 Norcal |
| Sept. 19 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | This country is based upon second chances. Why should this be any different? Without boring you with details, I know that my like wouldn't be worth a plug nickle without the additional chances that I've been given. This board belongs to SSUSA and it's our privilege to participate with each other. We need to trust the people that oversee the board to do the right thing, which isn't always at the exact moment that we want.. nor is it always the outcome we want. Also, we cannot verbally challenge someone and then be critical of them for defending themselve... regardless of who 'started it'. Let's just post our thoughts on different issues without making it personal. Bob Woodroof |
| Sept. 20 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | taits, "perhaps" he does. Wow, talk about understatement. |
| Sept. 20 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Pete, I am insulting?????? Too funny. My post was to Dave, and he knew EXACTLY what I was referring to. |
| Sept. 20 4x4 Men's 65 601 posts | Damn - here we go again |
| Sept. 20 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Sadly, yes. Just look at the top post and see who started it. |
| Sept. 20 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Woody, My father had this great line when confronted by a guy in an elevator in new york city, to fight. He quietly took his glassed off, put them in his pocket and said knowingly, "I wouldn't call anything between you and me a fight." Coolest thing I ever saw my old man do. It's very close to how I feel being compared with Gary 19 as I am made small by the comparison. That's as far as I'll go making that case. Of course everyone deserves and needs another chance in life. I simply wouldn't be without second chances but propriety and essential worth in human matters are very separate issues. Some wonderful people are unable for all kinds of reasons to appropriate themselves to one group or another. I even had a shirt made back in the early eighties that said, "I don't fit' and I wore it meaningfully and proud. It's not about worth 'cause Gary and I are equals in God's eyes. It's whether or not his behavior is sufficiently positive to be appropriate for a Senior message board. To date, he and his behavior are batting below the Mendoza line. I think it's both fair and appropriate to tell Gary to find another place to play. He's demonstrated to me and many others his impropriety and though I wish him well I have nothing to say to him and don't want to hear his comments on anything I have to say. So like our parents used to say when we were kids "Don't play with Gary and Gary you don't play with Joe." Stay away from one another. Want to coexist Gary? Don't write a word about me or anything I have to say. Stay out of my threads and make no comments on my posts and we'll do just fine. Can you handle that? |
| Sept. 20 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Once again, just look at the top post and see who addressed whom first. Funny how you say "Don't write a word about me or anything I have to say. Stay out of my threads and make no comments on my posts and we'll do just fine" but you don't make the same offer to me. Can we all say "hypocrit"? And your obvious inability to handle any type of questioning, disagreement, or any comments that present a differing viewpoint also appear to be a sad character flaw. |
| Sept. 20 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | I guess not. |
| Sept. 20 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | So you won't be making me the same offer? Why am I not surprised? |
| Sept. 20 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Joe: You allude to some comparison that I made. Just exactly what was it that gave you that impression? In my posts I address it to the person to whom I'm responding so that other do not react to something not meant for them. If I don't mention anyone by name, as I didn't in my last post, you can reat assured that it was a general statement. But, for my clarity, was the 'elevator scene' directed at me? Because if it was you can contact me directly @ awtgroupsc@aol.com... rather than bore the other people that like to use this board. Bob Woodroof |
| Sept. 20 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Woody, The comparison I was making the analogy was with G19 and myself. But I want to email you anyhow so we can chat. |
| Sept. 21 Norq44 59 posts | In my opinion the best way to deal with this problem is to completely ignore it. It should be treated as a blank space. Read it if you want, but just consider the source, and don't waste any more of your time and energy on it. |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Why are you proposing everyone should be so mean to "einstein"? |
| Sept. 21 Fred Scerra Men's 80 542 posts | The little children are at it again. Do we have to go through this whole thing all over again. |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Fred, no we don't, as long as people stop making snide comments toward me. And I haven't been either "little" or a "child" in quite a while now. |
| Sept. 21 AlleninGa Men's 60 113 posts | Next, You couldn't prove it by your posts. |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Care to point out some specifics? I certainly can about "einstein". |
| Sept. 21 AlleninGa Men's 60 113 posts | Specifics? Yea, All your posts. |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | As I suspected, you either won't or can't substantiate anything. Not at all surprising. |
| Sept. 21 Fred Scerra Men's 80 542 posts | NG: Every comment doesn't have t be answered. Reminds me of my kids when they were young each one had to get in the last word till I stepped in and said enough. I think that what we are all saying is "Enough". |
| Sept. 21 replant 97 posts | Leave the guy alone. We have fought wars to uphold our constitution and the 1st amendment. You don't have to read it, nor, do you have to like it. America is about Freedom of speech, not censorship. You guys should be embarassed to advocate censorship. I welcome all posts, doesn't mean I have to like them. This site belong to anyone that wants to post and I fought for that!!!!!! |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Fred, I agree not every question has to be answered. But every allegation should be substantiated. So it is "enough" when someone makes a BS claim and no one want them to support it. That's just terrible "logic". |
| Sept. 21 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | replant, thanks. It is just a shame how they all close ranks around someone like "einstein". |
| Sept. 21 4x4 Men's 65 601 posts | TNG - let's set things straight here. If you look at the majority of your posts you are either attacking and or mocking the people of this board along with comments, suggestions, and topics. YOU were deservedly and rightfully banned from this board and others. You were NOT invited back in, you have NO RIGHT to be here. You used and away from home ip to back door/sneak your way onto a place you are not wanted, needed, or welcome. That speaks VOLUMES for your integrity and explains you as an individual even though you insist on pointing at others saying they'd make an interesting physolocical profile - gee another mocking put down. You simply are not a relevant contributor but since you absolutly "stew" in your own self importance we will have to put up with you for a while. Some of us have tried to reason with you (fat chance) and others have tried to find meaningful ways to curtail you insolence only to be mocked again. Interesting you should say we have too much time one our hands while you are busy digging up unanswered posts from May 24th and busy posting about your boredom and how sad. The sad thing is you don't see any of this. Now that is truly a sad state of affairs. |
| Sept. 21 replant 97 posts | But he has a right to say it whether you or anybody else likes it!!! |
| Sept. 21 salio2k Men's 60 547 posts | If you are tired of Gary 19, just go to softballfans where he is still banned. |
| Sept. 21 4x4 Men's 65 601 posts | My guess it's the mockery in your face f.u. attitude that is posted by G19 that makes it so sour. There is no sincerity other than mockery of the board and members of it. Most on this board have a sincerity/humor/good natured spirit about them whether they are softball manics or not they seem sincere/real and that can be respected and appreciated as part of a good neighbor policy. Is there a right to dissagree? Certainly there is with a valid viewpoint that stays on task. Repeated disruption with the purpose to stir up trouble is dissrepectful to all members of the board. Has everyone been tolerant - yup. Is the same thing going to happen again? Sure looks like it. Hopefully, it will get better. |
| Sept. 21 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Hey Pete, You're a great guy and a warrior. Now, how did I know that there was no name and association for replant. Listen, your ignorance precedes you sir or madam assuming you're old enough to be either. No, you can't say whatever you want anytime you want, not without reactions, repercussions and consequences. Try to think that it's not the words but the meaning that is key to one's communication and if a person means harm or no good or negativity in general to you than that is the message more than any of the words. You can tell a cop to take to go f-himself but you won't get away with it, will you. And want to know something, you be charged with "inciting an officer". What you said is wrong. No one is free to say whatever he/she wants anytime he or she wants. Would you tell a woman she's fat because you have a right to? Would you call a depressed person worthless although you had a right to? If I am seriously trying to express myself and you say something that seriously embarrasses or humiliates me in public or in front of my kids you will get your ass kicked. Your view is incorrect, ignorant and just plain wrong. That's why Gary was banned and should still be banned unless he apologizes to all of us, knows what he did was wrong and promises never to soil himself on and in our midst, again. |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | More of "einsteins" stupidity. Just because someone might agree with me, or at least can comprehend my right to say it, he automatically attacks them. You guys really don't get this one-trick pony? |
| Sept. 22 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Why can't we all live in harmony here, and try to at least respest what one writes without bashing each other over it, The ole Hippy Generation, or the make love not war era. Peace Brother. V |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | taits, I hear you. But the guy with the uncombed white hair just won't stop writing (I think that would be what he calls it) his version of War and Peace about me. Oh, and apparently now anyone who even remotely appears to be on my "side". |
| Sept. 22 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | TNG, That white hair guy is a friend like all the others here had the pleasure of meeting. chances are in person you'd fall in that catagory as well. Ya never now. But does one have to keep the "side" going? Why not just let it die. As said by others and myself, we're a community who's one primary connection is interest in softball (Senioir). Sometimes alot of other subjects come up but why not I doubt that when you talk about things with your friends you stick to one one issue. Let it go. V, Peace Bro, I'm back to the flower power days of Hendrix and Joplin. Saw the both, amounght others. |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Understood. I am curious though, have you ever thought of asking "einstein" that same question? |
| Sept. 22 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | As I see the posting, He stops when others do. I could be wrong on some, I have errored before. |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | As I see it, he writes 50 lines about me. And now about anyone who he perceives "supports" me. |
| Sept. 22 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | TNG, 5 lines or 50, for me if I don't like it, I usually ignore them(why bother) is it worth my time, NO. I don't count them either. Not saying you did but you did put the number up. I've let a lot of post directed at me go. I've also replied to a H of a lot more. but usually, about the subject. Don't care if it's the last post on the thread or the first either. Lets let this one die as well, ok, I'm out. Thanks |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | I will, but let's see if "einstein" can. |
| Sept. 22 replant 97 posts | Einstein you need to up your meds. If you are delusional enough to attack me and think you own this message board you are wrong. If you don't want to be attacked don't take the bait. you don't see what is going on do you. He baits you and you bite. Einstein--I don't think so!!!!!! |
| Sept. 22 TheNextGeneration Men's 50 307 posts | Or vice versa. Who started this thread? |
