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May 21
DCPete

409 posts
Anyone still have 1 of these antiques (2001/2002) they'd like to sell?
Looking for a 27-28-29oz for my single-wall league.
May 21
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
Lots of luck
But there are good single walled bats out there. Some are also temperature ( the Demo's) sensitive IMO as well, especially if you are a power hitter.

Powerhouse, Demarini. & Easton made some good single walls back then or before. Finding one in good shape will be the challenge. But they exist.
May 21
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
I found the following bats at a local outdoors store:
Wilson 8500SB CU31, weight unkown, out of wrapper, some scratches.
Worth 26oz and 30oz Team Lighthouse Cryogenic SuperCell SSLC30
TPS 28oz TPSD3428M CU31
TPS 32oz Rick Wheeler CU31 TPSP3432S
TPS 28oz Lite Weight TPSW3428 CU31
TPS 28oz and 30oz Air Attack 2 SB18
TPS 29oz C405 J. C. Phelps SB4
TPS 29oz C405Plus Dirk "The Blaster" Androff
TPS 30oz Jimmy Power TPSD3430M CU31
All bats except for the Wilson are NIW. The Wilson is NOW with scratches.
The problem is that the manager thinks he can still get close to full retail for these. I asked if he could cut the price some (he's asking between $119-$169 for most) he tols me he had already cut them 30%.
There were others but these were the ones that I thought might interest us.
May 21
DCPete

409 posts
BruceinGa; I'd have to think the C405's would be better than the CU31's since the 405 was supposed to be an improved alloy. The Icon bat I mentioned is a 555 alloy which was supposed to be an improved alloy over the 405. I just acquired a used Icon and I was amazed how much hotter it was than the Demarini WhiteSteel that most of the guys use in our 50+ singlewall league. Unfortunately the endcap is loose so I'm looking for another one of these. I believe the old Loiusville Slugger Ritch's Superior models (green & white and green & orange) were 405's and they were the hottest metal singlewalls I ever used. Very hard to find since the walls were so thin they would dent or break as soon as it got below 70 degrees.
Taits, what's your theory on temperatures with these metal bats? Does hot weather make them better or worse?
May 22
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
I neglected to mention that I did buy 2 32oz green Ritch's Superiors. Both were cu31. The cu405 weren't near as hot at the cu31's but as expected the cu31 didn't last long.
May 22
DCPete

409 posts
Yup; I stand corrected, those Superiors were CU31s and there's a guy selling 2 of the grren & white ones now on ebay but he says they're juiced & weren't re-certified by ASA so they're just for BP/HR derbys. And he says they have "microthin walls" which explains why they don't last.
Hope you didn't pay too much . . .
May 22
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
There was a guy on SF that wanted one. Plus tax I paid $127. I told him just to cover that and shipping, that I didn't want to make any money on the deal. He was very generous and sent me $160.

I was wondering, how would you juice a bat that already had "micro thin" walls? Maybe he just thought that would make it sell quicker.
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