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Discussion: Rule Changes are not representative

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Dec. 23, 2008
pwhewett
Men's 55
8 posts
Rule Changes are not representative
I have been conducting a survey amongst tourney players in the NJ-Pa-NY-Del area and with over 100 responses from 7 teams find that 95% think the revenge rule making it an out if the pitcher is hit by an ball serves no purpose - only 2 of 11 pitchers like the rule. Not one player asked thinks changing the HR rule making it an out once the allotted number are hit is smart; most agree that it will result in more pitchers getting hit as the HR hitters start going up the middle instead. AAA teams are being given a paltry 3 HR per game. That doesn't matter as much if the HR becomes a single but it is a major issue if the hit is an out. Want pitcher safety? Use the batting screen or take your chances. Want to equalize the competition levels? Using elimination games only, go by run differential. Use average runs scored per innings played to account for games shortened by time. SSUSA made great strides last few years by listening to ballplayers and making rules accordingly. Make the mistake ASA/NSA made and watch folks scurry to SPA or to someone who will listen.
Dec. 23, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Right on, Phil.
My informal polling suggests the same results.
Associations are missing the boat and all that's left is why.
Most players don't comment to big shots or TD's
or comment on webs but they talk and intimate to one another
about what's up and what's down.
SSUSA is at an important cross-roads and needs to decide
who they are, who we are and what they stand or fall for.
Home runs as outs is a huge mistake.
Dec. 23, 2008
THE HI-JACKER
118 posts
JOE: I was under the impression that the best was in the West, or was that Norcal?

How many years did the big boys want: 1) Unlimited H. R.s?
2) Unlimited runs per inning 3) 25 run limit, after 5 innings? 4) & so on? Did SS-USA, in 2008, give Major Plus just what Major Plus wanted?

What happen? The Major Plus teams got just what the Major Plus teams wanted. No limits, etc. Or did the studs of softball, not think matters thru?

What happen? 1) Not in good enough shape to play 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours games? 2) Forgot that in the summer, it is hot & players get tired of standing around for 45 minutes in the field? How long does it take to score 20, 30, or 37 runs? 3) Found out that there really was not that many
Major Plus teams? 4) Got the rule that Major Plus teams wanted & no Major teams would be able to compete? So, teams will fold & not move up tp Major Plus. Why? to old to take a bunch of butt beatings? 5) Found out that there was only 2 "Super Major Plus teams " in the 50 division?

One can blame TH, but, should BR, & the 2-4 "Super Major Plus" team, be the ones that caused this wonderful mess? Soooooo, let move on & not mess up AA & AAA.

T Hi-J
Dec. 23, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Jack,
Of course we want unlimited homeruns.
We're trying to compromise to help the divisions become one
with the least bit of damage.
The equalizer after 1 and 5 run innings
and larger mound and plate, among some other minor changes
will keep our game fun AND competitive for all major/major plus entrees.
One of the best games I've ever played was at SPA
a couple of years ago was against Pine Knob
and we won 44 to 39
and everyone had come to our field to watch.
It was a great game to watch, play and win.
Dec. 23, 2008
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
And I know who you are Jack,
just in case someone thinks I'm breaking my own rules
and we, the MOB, played 14 games in 100 degree weather
in Vegas this year over 3 days
and we missed winning the championship by a hair
after 5 back to back to back games on Sunday.
We come to play not to pay.
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