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| Jan. 2, 2009 Lecak Men's 60 1026 posts | Major plus team petitioning to AAA I've read some things here and got to thinking my team by definition is probably better suited for AAA 1.) We are brand new never won anything all but one player won a moveup tourney 2.) In the Vegas winter worlds we hit 12 HR's in 4 games, a gentleman recently posted as a AAA player that he frequently will hit over 3 per game by himself we were out homered by a single individual AAA player. 3.) We built our team around defense and a recent poster stated that AAA is where the defense is played 4.) We have zero sponsorship money down to we pay for our own uniforms and every tourney we meet in the parking lot and give the coach the tourney fees. I hope the AAA will welcome us with open arms what in the hell are we doing in the major plus division. |
| Jan. 2, 2009 THE HI-JACKER 118 posts | LECAK: Joe, you are just wasting your time. No one is listening. 1) Seniors Players, will always find something wrong. We like to whine. That is the mature of the beast (old men). 2) There will always be Seniors, teams , rules, that may or may not make sense. Rules, will help some & may then 'put" others at a disadvantage. ( More crying.) 3) Most Seniors, want to win. That is why, many teams play down or sandbag. Joe, how many teams in the AA, AAA, & MAJORS, get moved up & disband? Form new teams or just do not play the rest of the year? 4) Fairness? Ask the AA'S, in the 55's & 60's, that watched Tharaldson's, teams win several Worlds in AA, year after year & never stay in AAA. Talk about paid players. Must be nice to own ones own private jet & fly ones players all over! 5) SS-USA, made the mistake of listening to Major Plus Survey. Last year rules where just what the NorCal & other Major Plus teams & players wanted. The unseen problems: many teams that played in Major Plus, got their butts beat badly. Very few enjoyed watching / playing in a one sided 2 1/2 hour game. BORING. In the 50's, there were only 2 powerful Major Plus teams. The other 10 teams or so, could not compete. No, we do not want a SUPER MAJOR PLUS DIVISION, in the 50 or 55's. 6) SS-USA, does not have their own Ump, like ASA, ISA. NSA, or USSSA. This appears to be a problem. The Umps that are willing to do Senior games, do not know Senior Rules. SS-USA, want K.I.S.S.; (keep it simple stupid); standard rules for all age groups, inorder to help the game & Umps. I am not lying, about K.I.S.S. SUMMARY: Who should SS-USA, listen to? Why or will, teams that get move up, stay, once "forced" to a higher level? Sponsor Teams or Players, are the Sponsored Teams or Players harming Senior Softball? What or can or should anything be done about Sponsor Teams? Seniors, why, can we Seniors, not get along or just haev fun? THi-J |
| Jan. 2, 2009 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | I was speaking with a friend last week who happens to be very involved with one of other the major senior assns. He said that he used to think of senior softball as a group of people that really enjoyed seeing each other each year... what happened to that, he asked. When we actually get to the events, this is the way it still goes, IMO... but on this MB it seems like a totally different culture. THJ: I don't agree with all of the things that you said but no one fully agrees with me either. BW |
| Jan. 2, 2009 THE HI-JACKER 118 posts | THE WOOD: SO! LECAK: A few questions & I am not able to move the forest because, of the trees. The following numbers come from SS-USA. 1) In the 50's: 172 teams; AAA- 76 teams; MAJORS- 45 teams; MAJOR PLUS- 6 - 12 teams. How many AA teams are willing to move up to AAA? How many AAA teams are willing to move up to Majors? How many Major teams are willing to go to Major Plus? Will 20 Major teams move up to Major Plus & 20 AAA teams move to Majors? I don't think so! 2) In the 55's: 120 teams only; AAA- 53 teams; MAJORs- 26 teams; Major Plus- 8-12 teams. Now, there is only about 30 teams in AA. Leave this division alone? Same question as in the 50's. But, we will or can only move 13 teams out of AAA & MAJOR? SS-USA, do you SS-USA, want to weaken or start more problems? 3) In the 60's: 159 teams; AAA-65 teams; MAJORS- 27 teams; MAJOR PLUS- 8-12 teams. (55 AA teams) Do we move 5 AA teams up to AAA? 15 AAA teams to MAJORS? 10-12 MAJOR teams to MAJOR PLUS? I believe that Seniors need to face the numbers crunch. Major Plus, in the 50, 55, & 60's have a shortage of teams, players, etc. SS-USA & their members, may have an unsolveable / impossible issue. This "issue", may take several years or more to "fix". In fighting & finger pointing, will not help. This problem, will not go away on its own. THi-J |
| Jan. 2, 2009 Lecak Men's 60 1026 posts | I posted this as tongue in cheek if it has struck a nerve I apologize. It is probably time given the new year to take personal stock and decide what may be in my best interest and match them to what eventually gets decided. |
| Jan. 2, 2009 softballer Men's 65 594 posts | TO THiJ ssusa does have a group of guy the do the tourneys! but most out of town tournament want to use their own people so they must do that! thanks softballer |
| Jan. 2, 2009 Jano23 Men's 65 97 posts | Lecak, that was a good one. In the original post regarding the AAA player hitting the HRs, the frequency was unintentionally overstated. The word "numerous" should probably be replaced with "a (nonzero) number of". |
