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April 16 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Major Plus teams I just checked the list of Major Plus teams participating in the Spring Nationals. We are the only 60 Major Plus team entered and there are very few in the 50 and 55 divisions. I heard that two 50 Major teams were recently moved up to Major Plus and they decided not to attend, presumably because they don't think they can compete with other Major Plus teams. The only way that I see to correct this is to do away with one of the four skill divisions and divide the teams among the remaining three divisions. Can anyone see reasons not to do this? Are there any other ways to get more teams to participate in tournaments? |
April 16 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | r You have mail. |
April 16 Tate22 Men's 60 280 posts | r Bruce: Great point. For starters I believe the Major and Major Plus divisions in 50 & 55 could be easily combined into one division for each age group. The home run and runs per inning rules provide enough equalization. I currently manage a 55 Major Plus team. We were moved up at the start of this year. We've played in 6 tournaments, and have yet to play another 55 Major Plus team since we were "promoted". Of our 31 games this year, 15 have been against 50 Major and Major Plus. My team last year, Evolution, was rated 50 M+ for awhile. Result, we went to SSUSA Western Nationals as the only 50 M+ team. Our reward was to play 2 40's teams and a 55 M+ team 2 out of 3, while the 50 Major bracket had 9 teams. My point is this, combine the two divisions and this crap doesn't happen. More teams to play, reasonable competition. If teams want to duck competition to win rings, maybe SSUSA can start a "jewelry challenged" division. Don Newhard Manager OLR Nighthawks |
April 16 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | r Bruce, yes I believe there are ways. Reduce the number of associations and number of tournaments, thereby making them much more meaningful than they are now. Reduce the number of classifications to 3, if not 2. No need to make them that granular. Clearly not enough teams to actively support 4 classifications. Go back to the system of having qualifiers for true national tournaments. No more calling everything a national this or world that. Make things mean something again. Play the games the way they wre intended. No special bats. No home run limits. No time limits. No runs/inning limits. Give people their monies worth, and not be in such a rush to get the games over with. Just my two cents. |
April 16 turn2 489 posts | r Bruce, There are only about 7-10 major plus teams per age division and most will only meet up at the BIG Nationals. You will more than likely be the only one or maybe 2 at other tournaments. It would be nice to be able to play in a 6-10 team bracket at all the tourneys but we will not see that. The rules are very close for major and plus but no one wants to move up. At this age you do not need 4 divisions in each age group. Two or three would work just fine or maybe just an upper or lower. See you at SPA, Later Donnie Turn Two |
April 16 butch17 Men's 55 412 posts | r I have suggested they do away with Major+ and have the highest level Major and the teams that want to play with the Major+ rules have a voluntary division that those reams can play in. Of course it has fallen on deaf ears. Butch |
April 16 Lecak Men's 60 1026 posts | r How you hitting them Bruce? New to the major plus division no answers here. I do need to figure a way to have fun though. I am trying something here in Las Vegas in Mid May. We are having a tournament locally and I've rounded up a mixed bag of a team, a number of guys on rehab so I'm naming the team "Rehab Assignment." Long story short if this works and a number of the guys have fun I'm going to push this harder with this group to do this more often. It will be designated a clubs and league team. I suspect we'll have a lot of fun guys that need to shake the rust off will be given a chance and we might not win a whole lot. Maybe one less major plus player next year if this is fun. We haven't seen a normal tournament yet this year, the best tournament we played in was a 10 team local 40's tournament. Are you coming out to Vegas to wire up the City Center complex? |
April 16 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | r Tate22 & Butch17, your comments have been discussed over and over again. But the bottom line is YOU ARE BOTH EXACTLY RIGHT!! |