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| Sept. 18 lemons Men's 65 323 posts | The current rating/rerating system requires teams to play in 3 tournaments and be unable to compete at that level in order to appeal. That means spending about $1500 in tournament fees and hundreds of dollars in individual travel expenses. It also locks players who have been members of successful teams into a class for 2 years. It seems to me that this could and does discourage individuals and players from attending tournaments in order to apply for rerating because of the financial obligations. Individual players do not a team make and no individual player ought to be classified because good team chemistry led to success. Your thoughts? Thanks, Mel |
| Sept. 19 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Well, yes, Lemons, there are teams where everything is clicking and they play over their head and win a tournament. And we all know teams that are far better than their ranking and just keep coming in second or third until they finally win and get moved up. But if you can't evaluate a team for accurate ranking by watching that team in future tournaments, how else would you accurately rank them? I think a more legitimate concern is the individual player who happens to be on that winning team and then is stuck with a major or major plus ranking for two years. Of course there are inequities here, as some players are marginal or friends of the manager and just happened to be at that tournament where the team won. But I'm not so sure that there aren't individual players who disproportionately contribute to a team's success. I've pitched against a team three times this season where the fourth batter routinely hits long balls and ends up with doubles or triples. He also hits home runs whenever they count as such. Doesn't matter where I pitch him—if it's a strike he can hit it. So I did walked him twice!LOL And I have seen a superb shortstop dominate a team's defense, throwing out player after player and allowing the third baseman to stay closer to the bag. But admittedly these super players are rare and most players are just 1/10 or 1/11 of the players in the field and at bat. |
| Sept. 19 lemons Men's 65 323 posts | Thanks Omar. Your observations are spot on and we've all seen players who could compete at a higher level. Since most of us compete for the fun, competition, and camaraderie, it seems that the time and money required to take the 3 tournament beatings could be streamlined a little. Regards, Mel |
| Sept. 19 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | lemons, I agree. Three tournaments seems a bit arbitrary. One tournament is too short (missing guys, ill or hurting players, no chemistry), but two tournaments with a team outclassed (both in scores and visual observation) would seem to be enough to determine the need for a reranking. |
| Sept. 22 lemons Men's 65 323 posts | Omar and others, As posted on another thread, the total cost for a high profile tournament for one team is about $8000. It would be lower if the team were able to travel by car, but 3 tournaments still seems excessive (and expensive) to me...........and getting your brains beat out while paying for it isn't much fun. |
