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Feb. 18, 2011
big cat7
Men's 50
94 posts
bats
Our senior league went to usssa rules this year so we cant use our senior bats, does anyone know what are the best usssa bats out there right now?
Feb. 18, 2011
Tater50
333 posts
Original Velocite: V-1 (ALL Assoc.); for me; the best bat I have ever owned & have owned 18, still have 5 (all stock). Takes about 500 cuts to break in, but LaunchOOOO; small sweet spot, but good for me.
Miken Maniac: Maroon one. It's been a tank for me & also hits great. I swing a 30 & swing fairly hard; it has endured well over the past 3 1/2 years.
May get one off of softballfans.com fairly reasonable.

Tater50
Feb. 18, 2011
ju25
Men's 55
138 posts
For me it's a Miken MV-1($175), quick break in, huge sweet spot, and not to far behind my senior bats for distance. I also owned a Velocit-E($150) when they first came out(2001), small sweet spot but Ultra like distance when you found it. These bats are pretty rare and go for a high price($300+) if you can find one. Tater50 your one lucky guy. Maniac 585(Maroon) is also a good bat and can be had for $150. Miken Recoil is another good choice for $150. Worth Titans or Mayhems can be found for $175-$225. Easton CNT+ for $199 no warranty. Combat Gear Supremacy($179) quick break in, great distance, but poor durability. To me it all comes down to which bat fits your swing the best.
Feb. 18, 2011
Tater50
333 posts
ju25: I have not purchased a bat in a few years; sounds like the MV-1 is a good one; have seen several comments about it.

I know that the Stock Maniac has been a tank for me.

Tater50
Feb. 18, 2011
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
Why would USSSA dictate what rules you play under. They don't make the rules they enforce the rules. They should umpire whatever rules you tell them to.
Feb. 19, 2011
ju25
Men's 55
138 posts
Every association has their own rules and when you are sanctioned by that association you follow their rules. In league ball you can somewhat alter those rules. For example, my senior league used to let you use senior bats(No Mikens), 11 fielders, 6'-12 arc and USSSA rules. Know all senior bats are legal, 10 fielders, and 6'-10' arc with USSSA rules and balls.

Tater50,
Those 585 Mega Maniacs are sick once broken in and have excellent durability. You are sitting on a gold mine with those Velocit-Es'. USSSA is changing their bat rules for the 2013 season, so after 2 seasons I'm stuck with 28 bats that will only be legal for senior ball.
Feb. 19, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
314 posts
ju 25 - Played the USSSA World Series last season and no senior bats were allowed nor will they be allowed this season. So unless you're speaking of a specific USSSA league that bat rule is already here.
Feb. 19, 2011
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
I have never swung anything other than a USSSA bat in senior ball.Once broken in a USSSA bat is as good any senior bat.I played the World Series too. No senior bats.

big cat- my choice of current bat models would be the Miken Pysco-Denny Crine Model and if you can get your hands on one the Louisville Voltage 73V.Banned in ASA but still ok for U-Trip and Senior ball.
Feb. 19, 2011
Tater50
333 posts
Sloball1: How do you determine which bat is best?

I use the tee test!!

Tater50
Feb. 19, 2011
ju25
Men's 55
138 posts
titanhd,
USSSA is changing the bat rule for all USSSA bats for the 2013 season. After 2012 your bat will have to have the new stamp on it, all bats without the new stamp will be illegal.I know that Senior bats are illegal in USSSA no matter what age group you play.

SLOBALL1,
Which senior bats have you swung. I have some hot USSSA bats (Miken MV-1,Nexus,Wrath120,PM Virus)), but for me I get better distance out of my UII & Combats by 10-25'.

Tater50,
I use a soft toss machine to test my bats.
Feb. 19, 2011
ju25
Men's 55
138 posts
Softball Bat Standards Announcement
USSSA has a long history with 1.20 BPF standard developed on principals of physics by Dr. Richard
Brandt of NYU. While the current standard of 1.20 BPF for softball bats remains in our view the
appropriate level for competition, the current generation of composite bats is susceptible to alteration and
improvement with overuse. As such, USSSA attempted to address the issue by providing stiff penalties
for those who use altered bats and is attempting to help develop an on field testing device to determine
when bats might through overuse or alteration exceed the 1.20 BPF standard. In addition, USSSA has
reduce the compression (that is hardness of the ball) used in slow pitch from at one time in excess of
700# to 325# for today’s balls. And lastly, USSSA has reduced the weight of the ball, again in an attempt
to maintain the proper competitive level of play. With all of that done, USSSA still finds the possibility of
altered and overused composite bats to be a concern.
Accordingly, beginning in 2011, USSSA will revamp its 1.20 BPF testing procedures to reduce the
possibility of improved performance of carbon fiber bats with overuse or alteration while maintaining the
1.20 BPF standard. Bats passing the new test will carry a new and easily identifiable USSSA mark on the
taper of all USSSA licensed bats. Old bats with the old USSSA BPF Mark currently are expected to be
grandfathered through the end of the 2012 season. Additionally, USSSA softball bats with the new Mark
are not currently expected to be available until late fall of 2011.
This announcement is effective as of the issue date of October 19, 2010.
Feb. 19, 2011
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
ju 25-I have swung them all.
The Mikens,all of the Combats and the new Reebok,but never swung either in a game.I just use what I'm comfortable with-personal preference. If I were to swing a senior bat it would be the Red Max Load Ultra.
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