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Discussion: Warning on quality of Combat Bats

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Oct. 31, 2012
tall_thunder
Men's 50
13 posts
Warning on quality of Combat Bats
Hey guys, just a heads up, I purchased a combat centarian and it was no good. It's been checked and tried out by serveral guys. Even though there's no warranty, a company should allow you to try a bat to see if it's any good, and back the company on it's quality of product, and repalce it. Well, Combat will not replace a defective bat, But, Miken will on their No Warranty Bats. It's called, Warranty Consideration. It works, I've tried it. Bats are too expensive to buy and not get satisfaction out of them.
Oct. 31, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
The problem could be that who would decide if the bat is "no good". The purchaser? A lot of guys will try to pull some scam on the manufacturers with that. I know some bats might be really obvious, but others won't be yet guys will try to return them just because they don't like them even though they knew there was no warranty when they bought it.

Just a slippery slope.

Just wondering, what is making it "no good" to you guys?
Oct. 31, 2012
boston
306 posts
I can't believe guys are complaining about bat companies selling bats w/o warranties. You as a consumer buying the bat. Then complaining when it breaks or is a so-called dud the bat company not replacing it. Have you not heard the the Latin term "Caveat emptor" "Let the buyer beware". It doesn't mean,let the buyer beware, hen whine about their decision and demand special treament over the hundreds of other customers that got screwed buying senior bats that sucked or broke. These conversations kill me. Buy a bat with a warranty and you won't have these issues. If players insist on using senior bats fine. but stop pissing and moaning when they break and the companies don't do anything about it.

A few bats that are extremely hot and have 400 day warranties. The Easton Stealth 100 and Easton Stealth Helmer, they come with 2 warranty returns. Te Worth Resmondo WSE super hot,even a little 175 lb guy like myself can drop bombs with these. I can imagine the damage Major plus guys good do with these WMD's.


"Stay thirsty my friends"
Oct. 31, 2012
crusher
Men's 70
396 posts
WARNING COMBAT BATS ARE AWSOME........
Very strong, My 30oz is incredible.....
Ball jumps off bat.....
The Centenarian is as good or better than the older Mikens...
For me better than the Melee, NOTE for me....

C
Oct. 31, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
"I can't believe guys are complaining about bat companies selling bats w/o warranties"

Oh, I bet you can believe it. You have been on here long enough to know how a lot of these guys roll.....:(
Oct. 31, 2012
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86 posts

tall_thunder

Did you bother to "break the bat in" before you declared it "no good"?

How many swings did you put on it?




Oct. 31, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I have a feeling, could be wrong, that if the first swing didn't go 350' it was the bat's fault.
Oct. 31, 2012
J R
182 posts
Gary19 is mis informed their is no such thing as no warranty.(sold as is). I am retired from a very large appliance company as national service manager . everything has a defective product warranty
Oct. 31, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
J R, is there Federal law that mandates that?
Oct. 31, 2012
Silk11
Men's 50
41 posts
Excellent JR
Oct. 31, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
If there is no Federal law requiring defective product warranties, then there is nothing "excellent" about it.

Now there might be, I don't have any idea, which is why I asked the question without just blindly believing.
Oct. 31, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Most every state has a 'reasonable expectations' law or similar wording there of.
Oct. 31, 2012
Ugly Stick
Men's 60
20 posts
The bat the gentleman is talking about has enough swings on it. I saw the bat being looked at by some people by the SSUSA truck in Vegas at one of the parks.. The bat did sound like it was broke on the inside. I saw a gentleman let him use his own Centenarian and there was definitely a difference. I don't believe he is saying that Combat makes shitty bats because like Crusher said there are plenty good ones out there. I think he thinks it is defective and just wanted a fair shake. If the bat is defective then yes the manufacturer should help the customer out. It is good business. If the bat is not playing right because of misuse then he should not gripe. I know a guy that plays on their team from way back. Not trying to stick my nose in someone elses business. I just happened to be close enough to hear the conversations at the SSUSA truck. I hope they take care of the situation, but it looks like so far, bad news bears.

Ugly Stick
Oct. 31, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
442 posts
Boston, your advice is good as to buying warrantied bats, but not so w/ respect to warranties. I already addressed this in prior thread to G19, but will repeat it. Jr is is correct. The law, generally the Uniform Commercial Code, separately adopted in each state
with variations, states there are remedies for selling a defective product. You have the right to expect your Centenarian will not be made defectively so it doesn't perform as a Centenarian should. This is not a warranty issue, it is selling a defective product. If I sell a dishwasher which is out of warranty but is found to have a dangerous defect, it will be replaced (this is actually federal law at probably not applicable to bats, but if bats were so defective that they explosively broke and created a hazard, they could be recalled. Again, it is not a warranty, it is the expectation that when you buy
a product it will be made w/o a defect. If defective, the law will help. And by the way, my memory is that MM and Alan have both gotten new bats for their combat customers when the product was defective.
Oct. 31, 2012
boston
306 posts
thanks for the update and input on the federal law concerning selling a defective product. I find it hard to believe that a bat that doesn't hit to a particular persons expectation can be proven to be defective. A dishwasher has many parts and the possibility of a part being bad is very possible as with any product with many parts. The only way to judge if a bat is defective is to swing it and then what? If you're not a HR hitter and you assumed getting a senior bat was going to make you when and it didn't is the bat defective? Did the ball only carry 315 not 340 does that make it defective? Unless you can see a defect i don't see how this is possible. Comparing a bat to an appliance or vehicle is far reaching. but then again stranger things have happened.


"Stay thirsty my friends"
Oct. 31, 2012
crusher
Men's 70
396 posts
BS... I bought my Centenarian knowing THERE IS NO GUARANTEE......... Could care less, just as if I got a MIKEN ar a MELEE...
If you are an IDOIT, if you will say it should be cared for like if you are a hussine supporter.

THE BATS CALLED SENIOR DO NOT CARRY ANY WARRENTY>>>>>

Break it in correctly and you will reap many rewards..

Got most of this year out of the Centerarian and should get next year as I did break it in correctly.....

Nov. 1, 2012
leftyfalcon
Men's 65
158 posts
I have a few combat senior bats. My centerarian hits as well as the other senior combats that I have. You just have to give most of the Senior bats a break in period. I baught a combat ambush for $125 from my buddy on the team that I was playing with. The bat was only a week old and the guy he baught it from didn't like the way it swang. The ambush hits great now it's broken in. Some bats take a little longer to break in than others. Best thing to do is try someone else's senior bat before you buy one. No two bats are the same and some take longer than others to break in.

Joe Lefty Falcon #8
FMSI 60 AAA
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