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Ever Been Personally Polled» Tater50: No elaboration necessary unless you want too. Indicate the number ...»mad dog: 10+ years(ssusa,ncssa,spa),avg about 8-10 tourneys a year.cost no ... »pitcher55: 2nd season in ssusa. played 9 tourneys last year. about 125 events ... »GSWP001: Been playing senior softball since 1998 and do not remember ever ... »Omar Khayyam: Been playing 11 years, about 15 tourneys a year. Don't ever remember ... »ShaneV: I'm guessing SSUSA polls their tournament directors regularly, trying ... |
5 | Dec. 26, 2011 | 631 |
Out of the box idea for "courtesy runners"» jfsully: A unique, serious unemotional idea on “courtesy runners”? How ...»Paco13: 2 much thought put into a very simple issue. Some players due ... »#19: Courtesy runners should be abolished, or, at the very least, ... »Gary19: Paco, just because some guy is "not as fast" is NO reason to give him ... »Paco13: OK. Get rid off it. No problem here. I will still do what I do. ... »garyheifner: My team has 2 men who can't run only walk. After 10 years of being ... »Gary19: Fine Gary. So have the last out run for them. Objections? ... »cal50: The courtesy runner as is, is fine. It allows more people to be ... »Gary19: I am sure it will stay as is, but can it at least be renamed to ... »#19: garyheifner ... must you resort to name-calling? ... differences of ... »SSUSA Staff: We've printed the various threads re: Courtesy Runners and they are ... »JBTexas : Calling you guys clueless is name calling, really. Rule is not going ... »Gary19: Ah yes, love it or leave it. Not exactly an enlightened approach. ... »steve65: from reading the various threads on CRs I thought an overwhelming ... »E4/E6: Get that whip out Gary, beat this horse until he cant move. What ... »Olden Slow: Never heard anyone say to the ump " may I have a courtesy runner ... »Gary19: The "typical" was not to this idea, but to his approach. Love this ... »Gary19: Fine, fine, fine..... I just started out replying to Paco, and this ... »E4/E6: Gary has it ever crossed your mind that the majority likes the game ... »#6: #19, we have several guys on our team ( the one you are on) that ... »Pricer: jfsully, good thread. But it seems whenever someone feels something ... »E4/E6: Pricer you are right on one level, but "The Majority" doesnt need a ... »JBTexas : I love it for one month if the so called trouble makers didn't ... »steve65: pricer I started a thread "Fortunate" and it has quite a few ... »Gary19: JB, A) I haven't posted in probably 90% of the threads on here, so ... »DCPete: Why should a player with a bad shoulder who can run but can't hit be ... »steve65: DCPete please don't get Gary19 going with his same old line "last ... »Gary19: Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! Congrats Pete!!!! Steve, care ... »steve65: Gary for perhaps the third time--team I played on only one of first ... »Gary19: No holes at all. As I have said MANY more than 3 times, if the ... »Pricer: It was never voted on or ever will be. If the time comes that the ... »#19: #6 ... most of our guys can run, they just can't run very fast ... ... »Gary19: Again, spot-on post by "the other" 19! »#6: #19, Bob are we on the same team ? LOL.I am doing great. Throwing ... |
33 | Dec. 22, 2011 | 1528 |
batters box» garyheifner: I know the staff said no more rule topics for the meeting. But I ...»taits: Players know the rule on it but largely ignore it because it is rare ... »cal50: All the batters box does is leave room for controversy. It does not ... »Gary19: Why don't we just get rid of all the rules that somehow everyone ... »RIK56: gary you have played senior tournments is the box lined out correctly ... »FOFO: I think it's important to have the batters box. For example, as a ... »Gary19: Honestly, I rarely pay attention since most of the time the line is ... »cal50: FOFO, the problem with your reasoning is that the batters box is ... »garyheifner: RIK56 Yes and No. We played at Desert West in the worlds and the ... |
8 | Dec. 11, 2011 | 1214 |
SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE 2011 REPORT» SSUSA Staff: 2011 Annual Meeting – St. Pete Beach, FL – December 7-9, 2011 The ... |
0 | Dec. 11, 2011 | 3529 |
SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE 2011 AGENDA SYNOPSIS» SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rules Committee Annual Meetings will occur on Thursday and ...»SSUSA Staff: »udaplaya: My $.02 worth Border: eliminate for M+ division Mercy Rule: i ... »Duke: Dave, I have all the trust and faith, that you will get done what ... »Jawood: Some I have trust to do what needs to be done. Some not so much. »stattad: I would sure love to see the base distance changed from 65' to 70'. ... »steve65: to the contrary lengthening the bases will not put more emphasis on ... »Gary19: Forcing seniors to use the same bats as everyone else would help do ... »neck10: dont seniors get to play from a closer TEE in golf also wonder ... »tinman: Same bats!LOL.I hope you would have someone to play in your best 2 ... »Webbie25: It doesn't take Einstein to figure out we need 'lively bats and balls ... »Lang: Lets put the bases back to 70', keep the same bats or we will be in ... »Gary19: Of course it will never happen, too many prideless old men who would ... »Webbie25: Put the product out there, Gary-on the field and your money where ... »Gary19: I know they are happy. After all, they are "heroes" to the ... »salio2k: Gary..Pride has nothing to do with it. Senior players came to SSUSA, ... »Gary19: Of course not everyone does. But seriously, why the insistence? And ... »E4/E6: Gary you have beaten that horse past dead it now has been tenderized ... »LP: one thing i would like to see changed is the commitment line instead ... »SSUSA Staff: The public comment period (through this Message Board) is now closed. ... |
19 | Dec. 6, 2011 | 1569 |
Team Moving Down to Major» DoubleL10: Question for SSUSA Staff: If a team is moved down from Major Plus to ...»SSUSA Staff: That will be a case-by-case decision. Generally, a team receiving a ... »Gary19: I am sure I don't know all the particulars, and I suppose a review is ... »Webbie25: Is that why you responded even to this Gary??? Could not ... »Gary19: If this was meant to be private, he could have just sent the Staff an ... »ShaneV: Two things (so far) are not explicit in the language of this ... »garyheifner: Maybe I am being a little dense here but: The reason to petition ... »DoubleL10: Thanks SSUSA Staff for the reply. As I suspected, there is a grey ... »DoubleL10: Also, I made a conscious choice to post this question on the public ... »Gary19: Maybe it's the first name, but the other Gary saw through this just ... »the wood: Larry, I understand your point very clearly. There is definitely a ... »E4/E6: Gary19, not everything is as transparent as you constantly make them ... »Gary19: I agree with what you say about the rules, though part of that could ... »the wood: John, it is responding well to rehab... much better/faster than the ... »E4/E6: Woody, you, Billy Stirton, Doc Swear and I need to run a race. I know ... »the wood: Three out of four... that's the ones with valid excuses for their ... »OTE24: The Rolling Thunder Race! »E4/E6: Woody and John, next time you talk to or see Doc, ask him who came in ... |
17 | Dec. 4, 2011 | 1393 |
Impact player rule is a joke!!» Duke: Hey Guys, In what I write, I am going to leave team names out. And ...»#19: Duke ... How does this impact you? »Duke: #19 This rule actually does not effect my team at all directly. It ... »#19: Andy ... Thanks for your explanation ... What is the definition of an ... »rightrj1: #19, its my understand that an impact player is one who has played in ... »Duke: Bob, With respect to SSUSA rules, an impact player is a player ... »#19: So, I'm an impact player if I play on a AA team after having played ... »mad dog: andy,in a way that is the how the kids do it.higher can play down,but ... »mad dog: #19 mmmm they haven't seen you play,no ... »Duke: #19 Imagine that, your actual ability has nothing to do with this ... »Duke: Mad Dog, I do not care for your suggested bump rule. Nor do I want to ... »#19: Doesn't seem right that a player with no impact would be an impact ... »Duke: Mad Dog, After thinking about what you wrote, I do agree with one ... »Duke: I know that 3 Major players cannot be substituted/interpreted for 1 ... »Omar Khayyam: #19, you raise the right question. Defining an impact player who has ... »VINNY LV: Duke, like you said."let's get back to playn some real ... »Duke: Hi Vinny, How is your situation going? Shoot me an email, so we ... »mad dog: andy,most of the players dropping would not be "IMPACT" players,they ... »Duke: Mad Dog, I do not agree with that at all. Right now the supposed rule ... »Duke: To all players, The "impact player" rule or best known to many as ... »mad dog: oh i understand your thinking andy,it was just a thought on my part ... »DoubleL10: And who do you think was behind the rule to make California and ... »Jawood: Got to love un-written rules ... keep everyone guessing! »Duke: Double10, East or West, W.E. Ruth is Major Plus. I have heard from ... »lemons: What if these "impact players" move to a higher age division? Is a ... »Omar Khayyam: lemons, I think if he is a true "impact player" in his early 60s, he ... »Duke: Jawood, I was reading one of your posts under "Ratings on team in ... »leftyodoul: Duke - Being a Northwest player, I have an intimate knowledge of the ... »Duke: Leftyodoul, I guess after begging, W.E. Ruth just has to make an ... »Tate22: One of the biggest wastes of time and energy in Senior Softball is ... »Duke: Tate22, I agree with most of what you said. Having the 3 levels ... »Duke: Grumpy55- The above is your answer to the 2.5 rule, which is an ... »Duke: We need more players/teams to read this, so we can express our ... »JamesLG: I don't quite get all the fuss about a team that did not even win ... »mad dog: tate22,don't think it is about an individual player but with ... »Duke: JamesLG, You're right! You do not get it. BTW, just curious, do you ... |
35 | Nov. 18, 2011 | 2209 |
California/Florida Bordering rules» Duke: This is worth stating again. I just had a conversation with one of my ...»Gary19: Just wondering. Is there hard data that shows there are that many ... »Duke: Gary19- I am aware of some evidence, but not aware of what it is. I ... »Tater50: Gary19: I am leaning on my frail memory; but I think Florida has 500+ ... »Al33: How about letting everyone know what the original intent was for this ... »Faulkner45: While there might be more seniors in Florida and California if you ... »Faulkner45: That message I just left sounds confuseing my point is if your have ... »Duke: I do not have my notes in front of me at this time, so I am winging ... »pushin60: 500 senior teams in California? I find that very hard to believe. I ... »Omar Khayyam: pushin60, I think you are correct if you are talking about senior ... »audieh: The Florida Half Century which meets once a month somewhere in the ... »Tater50: Pushin60:"500 senior teams in California? " Sorry; did not mean ... |
11 | Nov. 17, 2011 | 1113 |
RANKING THE MEN IN THE 40S» Crazy Joe: With their only being around 16 teams why would they make three ...»Crazy Joe: Their are 6 triple a team 9 major teams and 3 major plus teams »Jawood: Because they seem to think that everyone has to win something ... ... »Crazy Joe: The 40's are to evenly matched when i started playing seniors we got ... »Jawood: Yes, the Major-plus program needs to be eliminated at the 40+ level ... »HAT MAN: looking to start a 40+ team and want to know some things that you ... »FOFO: Little off topic but the thought of 40 year old guys swinging Senior ... »Jawood: Way scary, FOFO! And then, their excess HR's are OUTS, which has them ... »FOFO: I like the idea of a 45 Jaw. I just think 40 is a little young for ... »Pricer: Sometimes you have to watch what you wish for, you might just get it. ... »Gary19: Jeff, I think you know which way the vote should go on that one. »FOFO: The reality is that the kids are using hotter bats than we are. The ... »Pricer: FOFO, so true. But don't you think those kids would jump at the ... »titanhd: Crazy Joe.ASA has gone to two divisions for 2012 for 40's »Jawood: Pricer, I don't think so. It is in these kids blood to doctor bats, ... »mad dog: pricer like jawood says,if they are cheating as yougens,it will ... »JDR13: The 40 program needs to have a rankings system, how can teams that ... »Gary19: Do you guys really think current seniors didn't cheat as ... »Webbie25: They did a study on 'corking' a bat and concluded the corking itself ... »Gary19: Probably wasn't as prevalent because it wasn't as easy or as ... »Pricer: I think the original question was in regards to the 40's moving into ... »titanhd: Question for all. Did you consider yourself a "Senior" when you wer ... »JDR13: I dont think anyone ever considers themselves a senior, but it does ... »gott2play: A couple of weeks ago in my city league, we played some youngsters ... »mad dog: for what reason did the ump give for removing the bat,syn+ is a utrip ... »gott2play: mad dog, you are right, syn+ is a utrip bat, league is asa, so that ... »FOFO: Pricer, I agree with your thoughts. I guess the thought of 40 year ... |
26 | Nov. 15, 2011 | 1403 |
card» JWWV3: New player looking to play some 40 plus. How do you go about getting ...»Dbax: Up above, put the cursor on tournaments, then click on forms. It's ... |
1 | Nov. 13, 2011 | 350 |
4.3» Capt Kirk: Should 4.3 BE REVISED? IS; 4.3 NUMBER OF PLAYERS ON A TEAM 4.3 (1) ... |
0 | Nov. 8, 2011 | 402 |
Phoenix Worlds» Duke: I cannot speak for any division, except for the one that I played for ...»Duke: BTW, despite what I wrote above, I had a great time playing and ... »pushin60: If they allowed 12 ft. you would throw it 14, and you know it. You ... »Webbie25: You guys complain-GI from CJ&S actually got one called on me that we ... »Duke: Ken, Maybe 15 to you! LOL! I do not like pitching BP, so now I do ... »FreeAgent10: Duke, I totally agree with you on the height of pitches. »Webbie25: I know, Andy. I actually started laughing in the batters box, too, ... »Gary19: Why is it that so many players think they can tell pitch height so ... »BruceinGa: G19, if you are 90 degrees to the line drawn between the pitcher and ... »garyheifner: Duke, you are absolutely correct. Experienced the same thing in ... »GI: Webbie lets be honest, I was amazed that pitch was a srike but maybe ... »mad dog: we ran the full range with our umps,10' to high to up to 12+ not ... »Gary19: Perhaps, but it sounds like the popular opinion is that only players ... »DCPete: The 1 & 1 count and Unlimited Arc would provide a faster-paced game ... »Webbie25: Gary19-I did ask that ump about that particular strike he called and ... »Gary19: Good pitching makes for a faster paced game. Those rules will not ... »southernson: "Good pitching makes for a faster game"? Really? Actually it ... »Gary19: Good pitchers will control the pace of the game, and not allow it to ... »Omar Khayyam: Once again, Gary19 is sure that pitchers can not accurately estimate ... »Gary19: Omar, in most cases the umps are experienced too yet get little ... »Omar Khayyam: Gary, absolutely right about the umps' experience. Maybe not the ... »Al33: The Senior Softball bashing on this message board by a few guys our ... »Gary19: What is REALLY sad on this board is the amount of umpire bashing that ... »Webbie25: Umpire bashing takes place at all ages, and just not softball. It ... »Al33: On the contrary, what is REALLY sad is people like you twisting ... »stick8: AI33, when you say this: "Many umpires are reluctant for whatever ... »stick8: Omar, not trying to be picky with this but since you've done your ... »Al33: stick8, No doubt that could be a contributing factor. However one ... »stick8: Webbie your so right about major league baseball umpires. When I ... »stick8: Good point AI33. Some players will still swing at those illegal ... »Omar Khayyam: stick8, nope, I can't tell the difference between 11'11" and 12 feet, ... »Gary19: Keep reading the posts. The players can tell height, but the umps ... »Webbie25: Gary19-If you ask my wife-she says I'm 8 yrs old. Mature?-doubt that, ... »Gary19: Mark,I wasn't trying to bash any poster in particular. Whining about ... »mad dog: to me its not the 12' pitch that is the problem,it is when a 10' ... »Gary19: 6' is seldom called correctly, but it is what it is and pitchers just ... »Webbie25: Gary-you said the following: What is REALLY sad on this board is the ... »Gary19: Not criticizing at all. They probably miss some pitches at both ... »Webbie25: Gary-'I think I can tell..." --gee, so do some of us, Gary. »Gary19: Except I only "think" it. Read the posts, many seem to know for ... »E4/E6: New math, Gary? I never realized there was more then 100% of ... »Gary19: What can I say, I was going for emphasis. =) And didn't you ever ... »stick8: Omar when I ump I have an eye for 10 ft because I officiate high ... »mad dog: stick i'm with you.no they might not be able to tell the difference ... »Gary19: mad dog, if you want to do that, fine, but you better make the mat ... »stick8: Mad Dog selfishly speaking I think unlimited arc is too high--too ... »Mr. Manassas: I do think that some of the umps were letting the pitchers go a bit ... »Gary19: Just a thought. In those situations where you think (or think you ... |
47 | Nov. 4, 2011 | 1615 |
Seeding Criteria at Senior World Tournament» rlspls1974: Wouldn’t it make more sense for the tie breaker in round robin play ...»SSUSA Staff: The current third tie-breaker priority (after "Best Record" and "Head ... »idahoreb: Wouldn't it be so much simpler to do a three game seeding format and ... »SSUSA Staff: For divisions that have at least five teams, the five-game-guarantee ... »rlspls1974: SSUSA Staff: That was what i heard from many players this past ... »DCPete: SSUSA; with all due respect it's much better to play an "exhibition ... »DaveDowell: DCPete - I wrote the 1,153-game schedule for this year's World ... »ShaneV: I'm getting better each year at scheduling but I will never be a Dave ... »rlspls1974: I cant stress enough here, this was simply an opinion shared by a few ... »Pricer: Tie breaker should stay the way it is. Least runs scored against. ... »mad dog: pricer yep,we had thought we needed to have a good run ... »DCPete: Dave, thanks for the detailed & mathematical explanation. I guess it ... »MurrayW: I don't have a real strong opinion on what the tie breaker should be, ... »paul0784: what about having the East and West National Champs play the second ... |
13 | Oct. 28, 2011 | 1111 |
make the call» GMitchell3: bases loaded 1 out. One hopper to 3rd , all runners take off, he ...»Joncon: Can't make the tag after the commit line. As far as the commit ... »Joncon: Commit line is 20' from the plate (I'm guessing....too lazy to look ... »Webbie25: We've discussed this play several times. The catcher cannot tag the ... »local: We have also had this play. Touch third and just starting running ... »mad dog: local has hit the nail on the head.if ya don't chase the runner on ... »Webbie25: Ok, I didn't say to make sure he crossed the line, but I have run a ... |
6 | Oct. 28, 2011 | 769 |
Balls» cutty: How were the balls in Phoenix?»Gary19: I would guess the same for both teams. »mad dog: trump stotes.......... »Enviro-Vac: No problem. We played most of the weekend in 100* heat and I thought ... »Webbie25: We've never have had a problem in Phoenix-the balls always travel ... »cutty: Thanks!! Playing in Phoenix. Why so few Hr,s per team and 5 runs per ... »DoubleL10: The Trump Stotes do not hold up well in the heat here in Phoenix. We ... »Gary19: Being real here for a minute, and yes I know there are still 65+ guys ... »wagon487: Gary19, do you ever post anything positive? I don't know why you stay ... »#19: wagon ... I guess he's expressing his opinion, just like you do. »PattyMac: Hey Guys, Does anyone know with the rule changes for next year to ... »perly: Patty Mac, hopefully with the SSUSA/LVSSA merger the official ball ... »mad dog: unless the rock is the MCT version it will be no better than the ... »Corky: Just my opinion but the Baden ball seems to be the best in all temps. ... »PattyMac: Maddog, The rock they use in LVSSA was great in the heat. We ... »mad dog: pattymac,when you held it,did it feel a tiny bit soft,could squeeze ... »curveball: Gary19- you need to get out of your premature fall season rocking ... »Gary19: So you think 65+ guys are doing what they did in their 20s and 30s ... »mad dog: curveball the rock if only the MCT version will hold up,like all ... »Gary19: Gee puppy, I don't know, maybe when you can comprehend that the kids ... »mad dog: then why is there a need for the other other assoc's to have their ... »E4/E6: With that thinking, everything after the broomstick is special. Or ... »Gary19: Just trying to increase the typical 4 or 5 team brackets by making ... »E4/E6: Its still simple Gary, thats the beauty of it. No matter how much ... »Al33: Gary19, Give a 65+ year old player a stock ASA bat with a 47/525 ... »salio2k: Gary19........do you really think that taking away the "special" bats ... »the wood: E4/E6, MD & Curveball: You guys are great ambassadors for senior ... »Gary19: salio, the OKI is short for Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. It is not for ... »salio2k: Gary19......I knew that, but I figured that many did not. Couldn't ... »curveball: Once again Gary, you show your lack of knowledge about today's ... »Pricer: Curveball, do you or anyone else really think we have some senior ... »mad dog: wood that is a big assumption,grammar,what the hell is that.......i ... »Gary19: Curveball, some very good points. 1) "senior bats do add some ... »Corky: We that are synics, follow the money trail..........Old days"Red ... »Corky: BTW.....I'm still warning track power with either combo :0) »salio2k: Gary19.......about 3)above. Be sure to look at the photos that will ... »Gary19: salio, you might be right in those pictures, but I can show you ... »softballer: aabout the balls maybe the umps should KEEP THE BALLS out of the sun ... »Pricer: You have got to be kidding baller? P.S. and enough about the ... »Gary19: The only thing that ever seems to matter is how far the balls can ... »salio2k: Pricer..........You've got to get to the major tournaments.......the ... »E4/E6: Gary if you had a cam we could probably see your lips moving, but ... »Gary19: You are a fiction writer now, E4? Where did I say I don't enjoy the ... »Pricer: Salio, I'm not sure what point your trying to make here about the ... »salio2k: I was just saying that softballer's comment about keeping the balls ... »Gary19: salio, both teams complain because for the most part they are made up ... »E4/E6: Your words not mine....... "The crap about friendship, camraderie, ... »the wood: Sal, you and I both know that some balls left in the heat will lose ... »Pricer: Sorry Sal, thought it was meant to mean something else. Wood, please ... »Gary19: wood, despite your weak attempt at sarcasm I never said that ... »the wood: Pricer: If you feel that I 'major leagued' you I'm ok with that. It ... »softballer: pricer well Maybe not where u r but here!!! lots of the ones we ... »jano2323: Gary19/TheNextGeneration/Dirty/Gary19 (in chronological order): The ... »Gary19: wood, if most of the guys don't play for the bats, then let's see who ... »Pricer: Wood, balls have never been an issue with the majority of the player ... »Webbie25: The balls flew well in Phoenix again. If you hit it you got it. It ... »FreeAgent10: The ball they used in Phoenix is the same ball we have hit in Houston ... »J R: In Houston we keep the stote in a cooler temp. at 60 degrees we take ... »jim16: I started in senior softball 18 years ago and and have continually ... »mad dog: webbie,no it is not in our heads,the stote if left in the heat will ... |
59 | Oct. 26, 2011 | 1877 |
courtesy runners» rock21: once the hitter reaches second base he should forfeit his right to a ...»rtaven: i always lead my team in doubles which would be a trple or home run ... »Webbie25: Rock-I have had a series of knee operations and lately it has become ... »Gary19: rtaven, regardless. You are finding a way to get to second, ... »birdie: Gary 19, I played with Bob and it was painful for me to watch him ... »Webbie25: Gary, I think you and the tinman from OZ need to have a talk. You ... »Gary19: I understand I am making a blanket statement here, but anytime anyone ... »goforit: My two cents worth --- I feel that a CR is very important in the game ... »mad dog: and goforit this where the abuse comes in.so what if your slow,if no ... »Gary19: The concept of a courtesy runner was supposed to be exactly that, a ... »Gary19: mad dog is 100$ correct. »goforit: Maddog/Gary19 -- my comment (for the most part) was in regards to me ... »softball4b: If my wife had a say, she would have me get a runner while still in ... »Gary19: We all have different experiences. My wife earned 14 letters in high ... »Pricer: Gary, being married to an athlete as well, my wife gives no sympathy ... »goforit: Gary19 -- it sounds like your wife was or is one heck of an athlete. ... »Gary19: John, more like "was". She is 53 now, but not all that long ago would ... »cmudhen13: I like the cr.What about those of us who have heart conditions and ... »Gary19: Again, if you need one so be it, but make it the last out and not a ... »mad dog: i can see where CR's are needed,but just to be running them out there ... »Gary19: Or he needs to get off his ass on non-gamedays and in the off-season ... »Omar Khayyam: Lot of hard nose guys out there! We've got a hard nosed guy on ... »Webbie25: Thanks Omar-you said it better than I did with my reference to the ... »Gary19: Omar, I just don't see any reason AT ALL for it not to be the last ... »Omar Khayyam: Keep arguing, Gary, you're persuading me, although in reality, we ... »Gary19: Injuries happen. Legitimate health issues happen. None of us are ... »mad dog: omar,its not the injured i have a prol with,its the guy who might be ... »17Black: Our league rule does not allow for courtesy runners once they hit ... »Gary19: GREAT league rule. Makes so much sense. Next would be ... »rtaven: i play open league during week and have to run for myself but there ... »Gary19: Bob, I understand you have real physical issues, and that is what the ... »BruceinGa: This year, playing on a 50 major team, I have had many cr's. I'm not ... »Gary19: Bruce, Huh???? How can you be okay being run for just to get a ... »armiho211: this whole argument is academic. as long as the associations allows ... »Gary19: You are correct. It is going to be allowed, and it is academic, but ... »southernson: Last time I checked the objective is to win the game within the ... »BruceinGa: Gary, what is confusing about my post? We are playing within the ... »Gary19: I totally agree that anyone using this rule, and taking advantage of ... »mad dog: frankie that is a great idea,i might have to do that.hey i might not ... »grumpy55: In 1 of our leagues, if you used a cr, your cr could only move up 1 ... »Gary19: grumpy, props to you guys. A league with some sense! »mad dog: grumpy,in one senior league i played in,if you picked up players b/c ... »obagain: If the CR is that big a problem why not just say the CR has to run ... »mad dog: league we do it for some,but tourney's there is no way someone should ... »Gary19: mad dog, I agree with you, but if you think about it why not? If a ... »Doorman: My team only allows 4-5 guys to run, although the other players are ... »Gary19: Doorman, here is the easy way to control this. The last out has to ... »FOFO: How about limiting CR's by division. Major + and Major division ... »Jawood: Or possibly one per inning for 40+ & 50+, two for 55+ & 60+ and ... »FOFO: That would work as well Jaw. As stated above CR's should not have ... »mad dog: FOFO,jawood,i have always had a bad taste for the CR.i was watching ... »titanhd: armiho211 how does allowing a courtesy runner prevent double plays? »FOFO: I'm with you Mad Dog. I think what makes a good player should ... »Gary19: Short of banning them altogether, which is my preference, you guys ... »Donny C: I have been reading the comments about the CR and thought I need to ... »Pricer: Does a CR change outcome of a game? If so should maybe the use of a ... »Gary19: Donny, I am confused. If you "can't run", there is no way you go ... »RedEye: I saw Donny waddle down to first a few times in Dalton & believe it ... »Doorman: If I could write the rule...each team would get 1 CR per inning and ... »Doorman: Lets be honest...there are 5 skills that define a player. Running, ... »Gary19: Doorman, good stuff! »Doorman: Lets be honest...there are 5 skills that define a player. Running, ... »Doorman: Lets be honest...there are 5 skills that define a player. Running, ... »Doorman: I posted this once...not sure why it copied 2 more times »Paco13: I personally like the CR from the point of view that I get to ... »RIK56: doorman are you saying those 5 skills dont exist in senior softball.i ... »Donny C: RedEye, I thank you for coming my defense, I could only run like the ... »Pricer: Donny, I think what some of the folks are trying to say, is the same ... »Gary19: Or a Courtesy Thrower. Let the fast, rangy guys with weak/injured ... »Doorman: RIK56, I am not saying those skills dont exist. Actually there are a ... »Donny C: Pricer/Gary19: I understand what you are saying about the CR playing ... »Doorman: Donny, I know what you are saying but the rule works 2 ways. It ... »Gary19: MAKE THE COURTESY RUNNER BE THE LAST OUT. »JamesLG: I also believe this rule is abused and it takes too much time a ... »Pricer: Does anyone else think that if there was no CR, division would look ... »rightrj1: Most of the guys who use the CR are very good hitters & can’t run ... »steve65: may I as "The Rabbit" add my two cents--I am 65 and run as often as I ... »Pricer: rightrj1, that is the question I asked. If they could only go base to ... »rightrj1: Pricer, I agree 9 hits per inning is a big task to complete, but ... »Pricer: But is that what the upper levels are about? Offense? What you just ... »Gary19: So Senior Softball has to ensure that everyone can play? Is this now ... »Webbie25: Pricer, am I missing something? It only takes 8 hits to get 5 runs ... »Pricer: Sorry, Detroit public schools grad. Who would of thought it? »steve65: Webbie 5 runs can be scored on five hits »JohnBob: Gary,why don't you just GET off this senior board! Why do you post on ... »Gary19: JohnBob, or RickyBobby, or whatever you are, Do you have even a ... »Webbie25: steve-pricer was saying if you ran station to station (1 base at a ... »steve65: Gary19 exactly what is your problem except for being blind---SPEED ... »steve65: thanks Webbie didn't realize the station to station part--so many ... »JohnBob: Gary, what's wrong with leaving the rule like it is and move on. I ... »Gary19: Bob Hayes was a footbal player who could run. They did NOT sign him ... »Gary19: The DH rule is still being applied 40 years later as it was ... »Webbie25: Pricer-maybe you have to be an Ann Arbor grad like me!!! :-) LOL »Webbie25: Gary-you have posted basically the same thing 28 times now in this ... »Pricer: Some folks on here just don't get it! If a team wanted to circumvent ... »Gary19: Webbie, Huron or Pioneer? I have not seen, and maybe I missed it, ... »Gary19: Pricer, "some folks"?????????? Only some? And I still like the ... »Webbie25: Teams will find a way to abuse any rule, if they can. We do a lot of ... »Pricer: Webbie, I see your post to Gary, but you or anyone else for that ... »Webbie25: 30 Gary-I rest my case. Ann Arbor High School! 1970 grad-the ... »JohnBob: Thanks Steve it was sweet. Gary,I don't like the snowbird rule and a ... »steve65: Gary19 a little History lesson for you--Bob Hayes was an Olympic ... »rightrj1: Pricer, Yes, for the most part, the only different between major & ... »Webbie25: Pricer-don't you think that should be up to the team-whether the ... »Gary19: Steve, the game was not stopped after the tight end or fullback ... »JohnBob: Ya and the guy that is ran for has to get on base before he's ran for ... »Gary19: JohnBob, use it if you need to, I guess. But why can't the runner be ... »Pricer: I'm sure this will ruffle some feathers, it's ok for everyone to have ... »Webbie25: Pricer-if you're going to be in Phoenix this weekend and are ... »mad dog: whoa webbie,you better not be skipping our date now..... »Gary19: Maybe he just found a more interesting date. »rightrj1: Your not ruffling feathers, I’m like Webbie this is pure FUN! I'm ... »Donny C: This talk on Bob Hayes got me thinking of a book called "Run Bullet ... »Pricer: Yooper, where from? »Donny C: Pricer, I am from Manistique, but lived and played ball in the Soo, ... »Webbie25: mad dog-I'll be in Thurs around noon if all goes well. I plan to get ... »Pricer: Donny, just moved back to Metro Detroit from Traverse City about a ... »Doorman: The issue is not only the CR, but the DH. They are linked together. ... »RIK56: ok i will bite,name some teams that just load up with big hitters. »mad dog: not wanting to call out any teams,but i have seen some just have a ... »Al33: RIK56 - Great question that I doubt you'll get any good answers to ... »Al33: Come on mad dog - not wanting to call out any teams. what's the ... »tg69: OK guys,the horse is DEAD,you can quit beating it.I can see both ... »mad dog: tg69,yep basically how it is.its there,we don't like it,but we have ... »Donny C: Webbie25: I know the area quite well my girlfriend is from ... »Webbie25: Donny-come hit with us when you come out to Albuquerque-invite is ... »Donny C: Webbie, I normally go there in late March or early April, I will let ... »Pricer: Donny, I did alot of interior painting. Mostly in the boyne mountian ... »Donny C: Pricer, Boyne Mtn is a beautiful place, they have some beautiful ... »Webbie25: Donny-I moved away from Michigan 40 years ago, but still have family ... »Tater50: I believe w/all the contradictions to rules: a Yearly Player Poll ... »Webbie25: Tater-had my physical, too. Walked in and the doc said "Are you still ... »neck10: theres nothing wrong with cr most guys who cant or shouldnt be taking ... »Gary19: neck, anything wrong with making it the last out that has to run? ... »littleguy1: Gary, since noone seems to want to answer you about the last out ... »Gary19: Thanks for the reply. I am not positive what the answer is, but I ... »steve65: look at our lineup and perhaps you can see not all teams use the CRs ... »rock21: the only solution to the cr rule is that if u can make it to second, ... |
137 | Oct. 26, 2011 | 2896 |
Snowbird Rule» Player: I still can't understand the difference between the SSUSA and the SPA ...»Gary19: Dumbest rule ever. I am willing to bet 99.9999% of senior players ... »SSUSA Staff: An SSUSA player with a "Snowbird" card may play in his 'home' state ... »Jawood: One of the few rules they are changing for the better! The snowbird ... »Fabe: What about living in Hawaii? Can I play for other state teams? Aloha, ... |
4 | Oct. 19, 2011 | 1106 |
Snowbird rule interpretation» yo-dt: The Snowbird Form sates that a snowbird must reside in the snowbird ... |
0 | Oct. 14, 2011 | 414 |
Yearly Player Poll» Tater50: I think I started a thread like this a few weeks back. I know ...»pitcher55: yes »GSWP001: I think it is a good idea. I would suggest though that it be kept to ... »GaCMan: ABSOLUTLY YES |
3 | Oct. 3, 2011 | 415 |
Ratings Clarification» rightrj1: Hey Guys, I'm trying to understand this rule; ROSTER ...»softball4b: I have a question concerning Major+ rosters. Do you have to qualify ... »Duke: rightrj1, Your roster is limited to 20 players. Per your question, ... »SSUSA Staff: rightj1 - It means that in order to be rated a Major team, the team's ... »rightrj1: Duke & Staff, Thank you...So if your team gets moved up for the ... »Brett: To the SSUSA staff. My team played all of the 2010 season and the ... »taits: Brett, That's a good question given in the last two years there were ... |
6 | Oct. 3, 2011 | 777 |
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