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Feb. 8, 2013
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player Ratings

So Coach - if this is just a pickup league where you organize a set schedule, then why would anyone even consider banning players? The constant theme behind all of these comments is that this is a rec and pickup league where winnign doesn't matter but we really need to ban players so that we can win. Can you explain that?
Feb. 1, 2013
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player Ratings

I know this is an old post, but just to complete a story that I am familiar with. Fred and his team backed off on their attemp to ban the major players when they realized that they had 3 major players on their team as well. The team I play on has 4 major players and we were eliminated early on in the tournament. Fred's team lost in the finals but I can say that all games throughout the playoff tournament were competitive. There were no blowouts and that is whi it is fun and if the playoff bracket was replayed again it might very well have produced a different winner. Fred's team won the playoffs in 2011 and when he and his team did not repeat in 2012 - they looked to ban players to give them a better chance in 2013. The league has been balanced and competitive for the 6 years which I have played and the only thing that can ruin it is this kind of thing banning players and essentially rigging the games. Guys, please, let's just play ball and enjoy the latter years of life without worrying who wins an over 60 recreational softball league.
Sept. 9, 2012
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player Ratings

Thanks Stick8. This kind of discussion is one that aggravates me to no end. We lost, so let's change a rule or ban some players so that we can take the path of least resistance to win. It often comes under the phoney guise of "we really aren't competitive and we really don;t care about winning" but the truth is that these kind of people are the one that are obsessed with winning moreso that the better players. It's funny, I bet if the team with the major players had lost, they would have congratualkted the winners, shaken hands and moved on. There would be no posts on the message board complaining about better polayers on the other team.

Senior softball should be about attracting and keeping players period, not about picking and choosing who can and cannot play so that the outcome is predetermined. Common sense has to prevail at some point.
Sept. 6, 2012
Dukes
Topic: Bats
Discussion: gsc bat latest web site update

There are so many good bats out there now, it don't make a difference what you swing but more it is how you swing.
Sept. 6, 2012
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: starting over again

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Sept. 6, 2012
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player Ratings

Well said Gary19. The draft doesn't solve anything because senior player tend to come from a variety of backgrounds across georgaphical areas even within a state. They really want to play with their buddies who they live near and perhpas grew up with. You will end up losing players if there is an open draft.

Fred, if you are not concerned about winning and losing and the scores mean nothing, then why would you consider banning the best players? It doesn't make sense and actually sounds hypocritical to me. If you ban your major players and the same team adds several top AAA players and then wins your league again, what do you do then? Ban the triple A players? Where does it end? If you are so concerned about playing against better players, why not pass a rule that says only players that are of equal or lesser ability than you can play? What would you gain from that? Then when you do finally win, "though winning doesn;t matter to you", how will you feel when all of the lesser skilled player get together and ban you from your league?

Go out and compete, have fun, enjoy softball in your latter years, Go get better players, even practice a bit yourself so that you become a better player. Banning skilled players is not the American way. I suggest that think about what you are saying and doing before people decide to ban you.
Sept. 6, 2012
Dukes
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Player Ratings

Fred, is there only one team in your league that has major level players? By banning the good players, would you not be watering down the level of play in the league and possibly lose some teams entirely? Do the team(s) with major players win your rec league every year? Is this just a case of being a sore loser? Perhaps a better approach would be for your team to go out and recruit better players. My feeling is that senior softball resources (players) are limited and leagues/tournaments/organizations should do everything in their power to attract and keep players, especially good ones. Players should only be banned for gross misconduct. Perhaps the players who should be banned are those that suggest banning other players for simply being a little better skilled.
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