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Dave (Mango) Meggison

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Jan. 7, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Teams leaving SSUSA?

Hey Stick,
All is well! Sorry I can't help you out on the costs but OKI would be a great team for a tourney like that. I'm not sure what your travel plans are but some of the west coast teams ( AZ Elite, East Bay, MTC, GSC, NW Legends and Sommerville) have been collaborating via email to try and shape our schedules so that we maximize tournament participation.

If you guys want in on the email loop and can come to one more west coast tournament other than the SSUSA Vegas worlds let me know.

We also would be interested in hearing from any other eastern 50 major plus teams that have an interest in collaborating schedules.

Sommerville is looking to play east and would like to go where there is the most participation. In the past we've gone to SPA but heard there might be some problems with the impact players list. We are open to suggestions.



Jan. 6, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: All the hate on DBO with senior bats...how about this?

Welcome to the board Mau-the bats are way to hard to control(altered bats) the best way to control it is with the balls-then only home run hitters hit bombs. By the way- as hard as you hit it, if you hit the ball down you could kill a pitcher. Just the thought of it -Yikes!
Mango

Jan. 6, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Teams leaving SSUSA?

Hey Marv19- Sommerville Softball (50 Major Plus)will definitely play in your "Smasher" tournament barring schedule conflicts. I would also think that would be an easy tourney for Nazzarino, GSC, AZ Elite to make and perhaps we could get some Eastern teams(Adiktiv?OKI?) to come out and visit California.
Thanks,
Mango
Jan. 5, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA shares DBO rationale Senior

Thoughts comments and observations and suggestions on the lack of logic and consistency in justification of the DBO rule.

The DBO rule does nothing to emphasize defense. IN fact it can be argued it does just the opposite. A team being awarded an out for NOT making a play is not more defense. That’s like saying the 5 run rule emphasizes defense. In fact its conceivable a team can win a game without ever recording and out. Think about it. A team gives up 5 every inning then in the open inning they watch 3 balls hit over the fence for DBO’s. That’s not defense.

Suggestion- If they want to emphasize defense expand the runs per inning from 5 to 9 at ALL levels. Then when you make an error it hurts.

Another question- when giving an equalizer of 5 runs without allowing the plus team to even have a chance to stop those awarded runs- how does that emphasize defense? Perhaps the weaker team should always have to use the extra fielder.

If they want to narrow the gap (I believe the real reason for the rule) between plus and major by further restricting the more skilled plus players then are we to assume that they will be moving quite a few major teams up? How many major teams is SSUSA going to bump now because of the dumbing down of plus?

Finally- I believe the real problem is the Rock ball being used in Vegas. The ball just fly’s there and is too lively for that venue. If plus players hit that ball down it is a recipe for disaster- there won’t be more plays made by defense- just more injuries- to fielders and base runners alike. Change the ball in Vegas- not the rule. Just a suggestion.

Dec. 13, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

And btw- that no vote above actually is 16 no votes because there is not a player on our team that wants this rule.


Dec. 13, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

Dave meggison
Sommerville Softball
NO

Btw- I would still love an explanation from SSUSA for why the rule change- I agree with mike- dbo in every division EXCEPT major plus... There's no sandbagging in major plus!
Dec. 12, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: players please respond to rule changes

It seems like an overwhelming majority of plus players don’t like the DBO rule.

I agree it makes sense that they do have a DBO in the lower divisions- if you want to hit a bunch of home runs we have a place for you- the plus division.

I'm baffled by this ruling for the plus level.

SSUSA can you explain your reasoning?

They're time limits on all games except the championship game so its not like the plus games go longer until the last one.

All the plus players I've spoken with except Tim seem to be against it.

Is it because the umpires would get confused remembering two sets of rules?

SSUSA can you please explain?
Dec. 11, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: HR rule - why????

I too would be interested in hearing SSUSA’s rationale for the rule change for plus.

It seems like an overwhelming majority of plus players don’t like it.

I agree it makes sense that they do have a DBO in the lower divisions- if you want to hit a bunch of home runs we have a place for you- the plus division.

I'm baffled by this ruling for the plus level.

SSUSA can you explain your reasoning?
Dec. 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: New rule

I too would be interested in hearing SSUSA’s rationale for the rule change for plus.

It seems like an overwhelming majority of plus players don’t like it.

It also makes sense that they do have a DBO in the lower divisions- if you want to hit a bunch of home runs we have a place for you- the plus division.
Oct. 23, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: New for Vegas

Hey Rev,
Sorry to hear you guys aren't going to Phoenix Worlds. I know it has been on your schedule all year and as recently as a couple weeks ago you you guys were planning on going, It has to be disappointing.

Call me when you get squared away and we will try to coordinate some local stuff this year.

At Ed- will do, look forward to meeting you as well.

Mango
Oct. 21, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: New for Vegas

Will the GSC bat and softball team be at the Phoenix Worlds?
Oct. 19, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Suspensions

Wasn't there didn't see it. If it happened as described above (a few players got into it and other players on these teams broke it up) then to paint everyone with the same punishment brush seems illogical and unfair. The players that were the peacemakers or non-participants should be exempt from punishment.

Food for thought- the umpires and tournament director I’m assuming tried to break it up. Their behavior was the same as the teammates who tried to break it up or actually broke it up. Should the umpires and tournament director be suspended for a year as well for their behavior? Wouldn't that seem silly?
Mango

Sept. 17, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 50 Major Plus

Hi Guys,
Just curious- who is going to Vegas and who is going to Phoenix in the 50 major plus this year?
Mango
July 20, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

Hi Kandi,
I just sent you a team picture of Shubins from the California “A” state championships as well as a couple of action shots from a 4th of July tournament in Albuquerque. If you don’t get the email let me know and I will try again.
Mango

July 19, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

KNDKCOOK
In the 1980’s I played with your father on the Shubin’s team you mentioned as well as Rebs and the The Breakers. I have a picture of one of our Shubin’s Teams on the wall in my game room that has your father in it. If you would like I can scan it and send you a copy of it if you give me your email.

I played with and against him starting in the late 70’s through the late 80”s. Your father was an excellent pitcher and fierce competitor. He was a bit of a character as well.
Mango
June 30, 2013
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Major Plus

Suggestion- 3 divisions per age group-AA, AAA, Major.
AA- no homers,dead ball inning ending out
AAA- no homers, dead ball out
Major-7 homers,one up walks,6 runs per inning ( the run per inning rule should keep most games close)

The defending Major World champs play the following year (that year only)in all tournaments as a "Plus" team giving an equalizer (either runs or fielder)to all major teams that want it until they get to the world. In the world the only equalizer allowed would be an extra fielder.

These suggestions could be tweaked but you get the idea. The biggest culprit in the current system is the home run rule in the lower divisions ( current major and AAA). That is where the tube of toothpaste needs to be squeezed.


Mango
April 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: P413 revisited

Point of clarification- I was hitting the GSC farther than the white combat, but not farther than the red Ultra.

April 10, 2013
Mango
Topic: Bats
Discussion: P413 revisited

So let me preface this by saying that I have no financial stake in GSC. However, I have known and been friends with Steve MacKinlay for over 30 years. And it is BECAUSE I know Steve and his, how shall I say …. over exuberance and tendency toward hyperbole, that I viewed all this talk about his “super bat” with a great deal of skepticism. I hit one of his prototypes about a year and a half ago (that he told me was fantastic) and it was terrible. It didn’t break, but it was dead.. Somewhere in the past year and a half they figured it out.

After yesterday I am no longer a skeptic. I hit Mac’s bat for about 60 swings, then used my bat of choice for the last 4 years. I put my red Miken (because I was afraid it would break) back in my bag after using it for about 10 swings to gauge the distance of the field. I also swung a white combat centenarian ( another bat I break between 75-100 swings). I was hitting the GSC bat farther.

For me, Mac’s bat was not better than the bat I’ve used for the last 4 years (red Miken) in terms of distance. But it was very very close. However, in terms of durability…it appears to be not even in the same solar system…we put over 500 swings on it today and I was told it had 500 plus when we started. I’m ecstatic if I get 75 to 100 swings on my red Ultras, often times breaking them in under 50. I would never even consider putting an Ultra through what we did to that bat yesterday.



If he gets that bat approved, and I don’t see why it wouldn't because it is not hotter than a red Ultra,players will no longer have to sacrifice durability for performance.

To quote Softball4B… it will be a game changer.

Mango

March 25, 2013
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Please send you thoughts and prayers... for the RUDY FLORES FAMILY...

I too enjoyed Rudy as a teammate on the Sun Devils Team when we won the 40 Worlds a couple of times in early 2000’s. This was after playing against him for years in the A division in the 70’s and 80’s. I know what the Wood was talking about- it was much better having him on your team than playing against him. God Bless Rudy - a fierce competitor!

Mango
Nov. 29, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Thoughts for the upcoming SSUSA Rules Committee meeting!

Tim,
You are missing the point. It is not “turning over the top” that accounts for the larger number of teams in Major and AAA. If “turning over the top” were a magic panacea then you would have more teams in AA.

For the sake of argument. lets say I accept your premise =that health is determined by the number of teams in a division, which in turn is a result of “turning over the top”. Then your theory still collapses because the AA division is small yet they “turn over the top”. There are no “Dynasty” teams. If turning over the top leads to health- then AA should have more teams. But they don’t. Do you see how the math doesn't add up in your theory?

What you are doing is looking at Plus and saying, “what is different?” Your answer- the winner doesn't leave. Then you erroneously conclude that this must be the cause of the low number of teams. But its not. Because if that were the case AA would have a larger number of teams based on your theory.

However- what you should do is look at AA and Plus and ask- “How are they similar? Answer- the skill level of both divisions is at the extreme ends of the spectrum.
There are fewer really good players than average players, and fewer really bad players than average players. And those players participate in the highest and lowest divisions. Its simple math.

And I believe the bell curve is a much better theory. At least there is no evidence to the contrary like in your theory. I know you love your theory and are committed to it. But it just doesn't make sense and you yourself have disproved it with your own words. Please consider the bell curve theory as an alternate, better theory. Or explain the low numbers in AA (remember they are bitter you have devoted all your energy to the “plus problem” and neglected fixing them).

Mango

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