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| March 31, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Bracket Updates MCK71, The point is every other association can and does offer 5 GG using quickscores or some other online venue to post scores. It's a very antiquated system. |
| March 29, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 50 AAA Team out of IL looking for 2B for Dayton Missing several guys for Apr. 20-21st in Dayton. Have filled most spots but looking for a 2B. John |
| March 27, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Bracket Updates MCK71, That probably did take you way too long. My only answer is, well every other association also offers 4 GG and 5 GG tourneys and still are able to use Quickscores and others. But you kind of nailed the it on the head. If an entire company is doing all these tourneys off of 1 single computer and only accessible by 1 person then maybe it's time to upgrade. If what you say is true and only Dave can do it, what is something were to happen and Dave needed to be off work for a few months? Sounds like with your explination the entire SSUSA tourney infrastructure would collapse and nobody would play a single tourney. |
| March 24, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Bracket Updates Softball4b, You do realize that you can still put people in whatever pool play games you want to. Has nothing to do with scoring posting live updated scoring. BTW, I don't know who makes each bracket for each tourney we play but I can tell you we've driven/flown to different parts of the country and still ended up playing team from Chicago where are from in Pool play. Fine, you would rather have team credits. Some people would rather have the swag which can be anything from patches, medals, or whatever you want. We play some associations that give gloves, bats, or even jerseys for the team. Bottom line is regardless of which side of the coin you stand on as far as what you receive for winning, the prices went up drastically and we lost almost all "Swag". Every other association had the same escalating fees like Umps, Field costs, balls etc but nobody else has raised prices greatly like SSUSA and taken things away in the process. Least they could do is give the players what they have asked for hundreds of times now which is live updated scoring and a way for people to look up online right after games are over what the results are. It's not that difficult. |
| March 24, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Bracket Updates Dave, Wouldn't it just be easier to make it happen instead of having to keep addressing it week in week out, month in month out, year in year out? Or maybe give people a reason it can't be done when every single other association at pretty much every level of ball from Tee Ball to Senior ball has been able to do. I mean I've seen this brought up so many times the past 2 or 3 years and have never seen an actual reason it can't be done(not saying it's not been posted or addressed just never saw it addressed). They do bring up a lot of valid points cost of SSUSA tourneys being higher than every single other association is a valid reason. Prices have gone up exponentially(everywhere in the world I know) and we get less and less. A couple years ago at Vegas Worlds we would get a really nice All Tournament Medal and 3 MVP medals and if I remember right this past year we got 1 medal and prices were $100 higher. We used to get like 3 patches to hand out at every tourney for all tourney team and haven't seen those at a tourney anymore. No other association has gone up nearly as much as SSUSA while still taking away "swag". The other associations have all gone up some but we are still getting the same "swag" and prize packages they always gave out. Maybe something like live scoring which to my knowledge costs nothing would be a way to appease some people. I've seen directors use their phones and update scores as the cards are handed in and it takes a minutes or two at the most per score. |
| March 22, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Music City results Tim, Do you really believe the Baden Fire is comparable to the Rock ball that used to be used? We found that it performs fairly well but not quite as good as the Rocks did and unless we had old stock in Vegas they havent fixed that issue with the covers yet. They still got dirtier than any other ball we have ever used. |
| March 18, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Tournament technology It's a battle you aren't going to win. SSUSA does things their way and everyone else does it like the players like.. You can find updated scores, team rosters, team managers onling in every other association as well as most have individual player rankings as well. Makes it easier to get a hold of other players and managers but SSUSA has heard this request, complaint or whatever you want to call it for years now and just doesn't address it. Hell One Nation you can go online and look up a specific teams name and find out everything about a team including every game they've played. This will either go unadressed, locked if the comments get out of hand or just outright deleted like countless others. |
| Jan. 24, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Tournament Results Jmac and BigJimC, This has been a topic of convesation for many years on the SSUSA site. Every other association we play uses websites like quickscores.com and other similar sites and most results are posted in real time for the most part and if not real time that same day. As you will see SSUSA will say they don't have the capabilities to do anything like that so don't expect it. Some directors will post as the tourney goes on results and some you can go back and look and you can't even see who won the tourney. They are one of the few Senior assocations that has a website like this where pretty much everything is easy to find but as far as some things go like tourney scores it's very archaeic. Don't count on anything changing. |
| Jan. 21, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Dave Dowell thanks for the answer. |
| Jan. 21, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Dave Dowell Dave, I have seen you state many times in multiple posts that when rules are discussed anything discussed on the message board is automatically disallowed. Can I ask why that is? This is the one place people all over the country who otherwise couldn't make it to those meetings can come together and occasionally have a rational discussion before they go off the rails as most do. I know you and whoever is in charge of using the SSUSA Staff username read these on a daily basis. Why not take what is discussed into consideration during these meetings when people spend the time to make their opinions on what could make things better. Now I know most of what is discussed on here doesn't reference rules and most threads get out of hand but when serious real concerns, Ideas etc are voice why wouldn't they be taken into consideration? John |
| Jan. 20, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats Markanthoni24, Sorry, that is just too hard to follow, it doesnt make a whole lot of sense. Be that as it may, I've never seen or heard of SSUSA supplying Nets for pitchers at any tourney I've ever played at. And it is on the people using illegal bats, not sure how you don't understand that. You can't blame a pitcher for someone cheating. |
| Jan. 20, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats Markanthoni24, What SSUSA tourneys are you playing that have nets? this is my 6th year of playing Senior ball and I have NEVER ONCE seen a net supplied in a SSUSA, NSA, ISA, ISSA tourney for a pitcher. I have only once seen a net supplied and that was in One Nation and only 1 team ever used it. And exactly which guys are hitting 115MPH? I agree that 40 year old shouldn't be allowed to use Senior bats but I don't play 40 so it doesn't really apply to me. I just find is funny that they call it Senior ball at 40. Let them use Senior rules with USA or USSSA bats, they don't need Senior bats to play at 40. |
| Jan. 9, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: vegas world's DD, Ah Ok thanks. I've seen them posted for years but never played in one so wasn't sure. |
| Jan. 9, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: vegas world's DD, What makes a tourney a qualifier vs. a recreational if they all go through SSUSA? |
| Jan. 6, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats You know it's 100% illegal to take someones property and cut it open right? That's why it's not done anymore because people got sued over it. It's also not fair to a legit hitter getting accused by butt hurt players to lose his "Gamer" bat because some people are just sore losers. If someone takes my bat and cuts it open to find out its 100% stock they are going to owe me a lot more than $300. They are going to replace my bat and compensate me for my time spent taking BP getting my gamer to that status. |
| Jan. 4, 2024 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats Eazy, I agree with you to a point. I've seen small guys with good mechanics and bat speed absolutely murder the ball. I've seen monster guys that you would expect to kill the ball be punching judy hitters because of either bad mechanics or slow bat speed or a combination of both. I've seen average sized guys be really good or bad but sometimes people swings while they might look bad work well for them and they get a lot of exit velocity and/or distance with an ugly swing no matter what bat they use with clean stock bats. You have to look beyond just the look of a swing because there is no perfect cookie cutter swing that works for everyone. But I do hear what you're saying, seen plenty of guys over the years dropping bombs with certain bats but can't get the ball to the warning track with other bats. Sometimes a bat just works better for some people than others or one bat fits a players swing better and he excels with it. Doesn't mean it's shaved but I always look beyond the swing and a players size and sometimes you can just hear a bat has been worked or is so extremely broken in that it's about to blow up. There is no 1 way to tell over another but sometimes multiple signs point towards it. But if the associations don't have anything set in place as far as questioning a bat then what are we supposed to do. Also, another thing to remember is how small the softball world really is because of the internet. All it might take is a person who's swinging a stock bat but if the associastions put together some some of testing protocol in place and guys start getting called out for swinging shaved bats by a few people the name will spread like wild fire across these forums and you know damn well all most people will hear is "they're cheaters they swing dirty" regardless if it's true or not that is the only part some people will here and not even read the whole story, just the par thtat fits their narrative. There is no simple right or wrong way to take care of this and hold people accountable any time soon. As soon as something is set in place the cheaters will find an different way around it. They've been trying to cut back on cheaters with the youngers guys for years and whatever they come up with the cheaters find a way around it. Hell a big share of the shaving market now is girls fastpitch and little league bats. It's ridiculous and scary but no simple solution. At the end of the day bat sales is a multi million dollar business every year and so is bat shaving. The only company I've seen try to do something about it was Pure with their endcaps and even those are being shaved. Unfortunately, Senior players bitching on the internet won't do a damn thing because people will still play and buy bats and that is all companies care about. |
| Dec. 24, 2023 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats MikelMart, I pretty much know every bat my guys swing mostly because I'm a bat wh*re and am always trying new bats and so are some of our guys. But to say one of the biggest things about being on a team is knowing what bat your teammates swing. Highly doubt you will find many people to agree with you there. Every player knowing what every other player swings isn't really a top priority for most people. |
| Dec. 24, 2023 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats Nickname36, There is absolutely no room for shaved bats in this game. It's absolutely ridiculous you are trying to lessen the ban on a player caught cheating with altered bats. So in your world a player needs to be caught cheating twice just to earn a 1 year ban.. Ridiculous |
| Dec. 22, 2023 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats softball4b, Fair enough. I can't disagree with you on that. |
| Dec. 22, 2023 JohnO28 | Topic: Bats Discussion: New rule on shaved bats Softball4b, I would tend to say your assumption of 90% of guys not knowing a shaved bat if they saw it perform, heard it or hit it is vastly over estimated by at least 50%. You really think that a team full of guys who play with someone for an entire season don't know who swings shaved and who doesnt? There are generally tell tale signs. First, at some point everyone on teams have hit BP with their team. When a guy is hitting 400' consistently in games with his "Gamer" and hes taking BP before games with a different bat and he's barely hitting 300' with any other bat it becomes obvious. Secondly, the most common shaved bats are the big hyped bats we all know. Nobody is going to shave a Combat Centurian because it would be to obvious that a very common lower tier bat is hitting like that and most people have never seen one. So they shave the good bats everyone know so it's not as obvious. But the problem with that is there are a whole lot of them and they all sound pretty similar except the shaved one sounds like a cannon going off. Third, and not quite as common is they are extremely protective of their gamer and nobody at any point as long as they've had it is ever allowed to swing it. Even when it was "brand new", I get it when gamers have swings and they are game ready you don't want to take any more swings than necessary but since day 1 nobody has been allowed to swing it and after every at bat it goes into their bat bag. Anyone who's been around the game long enough and played with and against the same guys long enough starts to figure out who swings clean and who doesn't. It's not a 100% exact science but generally if a guy is doing the first 2 things I said then you can be pretty sure. |
