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July 13, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: VEGAS FIELDS

For years either Pepsi or Coke gave the scoreboards away and paid to have them serviced. Now neither does that. They do not even install them or pay to keep them up. The old bulb scoreboards use powerpacks that go out very easy. In our area we have a company that comes out but it is $150.00 service call plus $90.00 per hour labor plus parts. The powerpacks are around $60.00 each. With them going out quite easy. A four field complex should budget around $5000 per year for scoreboard service in the budget. Most parks cut that out very quickly. The new LED scoreboards cost about $4900 each and that does not count installation. They are pretty efficient but parks do not want to spend that $25,000 to put them in. But once they are in they are good for years
June 30, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: texas state championships

Guys why don't you ask SSUSA to do the brackets, All you are looking at is your bracket and to heck with the other teams. If they let you do the brackets you would take care of your bracket and to heck with everyone else regardless to how many games you had to play in a day.
Lets say they let your six team tournament play the two pool games on the first day. Then start the 3 game bracket and play one game in bracket. You get beat in your first bracket game then on Sunday you would have to play 7 games back to back to win the tournament. NOW that sounds like a bunch of fun
June 18, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: courtesy runner

I would have to agree with SSUSA Staff. When a rule is not specifically covered in the rule book go with common sense. There was no advantage /disadvantage in this scenario, so let the batter runner get back on the base and game continue.

Trying to get an out in this situation is pretty lame.



June 17, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: courtesy runner

Page 42 says this
H. No runner may return to touch a missed base or one left illegally once he
enters his dugout or bench area.

Now you would have to decide did he leave the base illegal because he had no runners? if so then he would be out.
That specifically is not in the rule book.

June 17, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: foul

In slow pitch it should not.
This rule is a fast pitch and baseball rule. I guess back many years ago they rules makers figured that if the ball went straight from the bat to the glove then the catcher had a chance to throw the base runner out.

ASA define the rule a few years ago to read a ball that does not go directly from the bat to the glove is a foul ball and if caught it would be a foul ball caught and an out. nothing about going higher than the batters head. If the ball was fouled back and the catcher had to dive an catch it then it is an out. Nothing about higher than the batters head is mentioned.

Pretty easy if it is not a foul tip by definition than it has to be a foul ball. And I always thought a caught foul ball is an out LOL
June 17, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: foul

BJ you are correct but any fly ball that is caught really is not fair or foul only caught over one of the two territories. Any ball that is caught is a caught ball for an out. If caught over foul territory it is never called a foul just an out. I know I am splitting hairs and you are correct in the concept of playing the game.
What I was really trying to say is in slow pitch the definition of foul tip never really comes into affect in Slow Pitch. In slow pitch a foul tip is just another strike. with two strikes is would be an out because it would be a 3rd strike foul.
June 16, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: foul

Actually no unless there are 2 strikes on the batter.

Foul tip rule should not be in a slow pitch rule book.

All a foul tip is, is another strike


Foul tip is as you described above, in fast pitch and baseball a baserunner can advance on a foul tip but not a foul ball.
If the ball does not go directly and that would be bat glove immediately then it would be a foul ball.

In slow pitch any ball that does not go fair is a dead bal. In baseball and Fast Pitch runners can steal on any foul tip or passed ball or wild pitch
June 11, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Smoky Mtn.

There are a few reasons you see older retired people doing Senior softball

1 A lot of the tournaments are played or started on weekdays. It would be hard to use the old guys on Thursday and Friday then say you are not good enough to work Saturday and Sundays so the TD has to have umps to cover all games if he sent them home on Saturday the next time he asked them to umpire they would say STICK IT

2 The younger umpires are not coming out and umpire Senior slowpitch games that last for about an hour and 20 minutes or more for $20 or $25 dollars when they can do girls fastpitch games with an hour 15 minute time limit for $36 dollars or a boys baseball game with an hour 40 minute time limit for $40.00.

The old guys are not asked to do the baseball and fp because they are not as good or knowledgeable and are not asked to do it or you would not have them either.

It a lot about the amount of money you can make on a weekend for the younger guys

Slowpitch weekend $225 maybe
Fastpitch weekend easily $300.00
Baseball easily $400.00
with the same amount or less time invested
June 8, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules of the game

I looked over the rules in the SSUSA rule book and it looks like a lawyer wrote it LOL

But the best I can understand from it is : if before the pitch, make correction and keep playing if after a pitch the coach is ejected for not reporting a sub.


June 2, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foot placement in batter's box before pitch

Your diagram in the back of rule book shows 4 up and 3 back. Is it correct?
June 2, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foot placement in batter's box before pitch

Staff I have been playing for 40 years and have never seen a batters box extend 4 ft back. All I have ever seen is 4 ft forward from the middle of the plate and 3 ft back. Except in usssa it is 3 up and 2 1/2 back.if it is 3 up the foul lines will not intersect with the batters box correctly
June 2, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Old stories of bat doctoring

We had a player on our team that worked in an aluminum fabrication shop. He took the knob off put an air valve in the end of the bat put 70lbs of air pressure in the bat and sealed the knob back on. That worked about as well as hitting with a wet noodle/

We had a team from the next league over that was well know for cutting the handle and adding about a two inch piece onto the handle to make the bat longer.
June 2, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Missing 1st Base Before the Throw Arrives

The appeal is on a forced runner. The runner batter runner is forced to touch 1st base. Therefore the run would not count, he never reached 1st base safely

Same scenerio is if bases are loaded two outs. Batter hits a double runner on 1st misses 2nd and after all play has ceased the defense appeals the runner that was on 1st misses 2nd that would be the 3rd out on a force play and no runs would count.
Now if the batter runner hits a triple and misses 2nd all runs would count because the runner missing 2nd would not be a force out because he was not forced to second because a batter runner forced him to move up.

Guys I think a lot of you are over thinking this. An appeal play is not a force except when the runner missed the next base he was forced too.
May 29, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Missing 1st Base Before the Throw Arrives

Stick I would have to disagree with you if there was two outs before he batted. Actually he never reached first base safe so if there was two outs the run would not count. I do not believe the run would count. Would be the same if he missed first and went to second dead ball appeal that he missed 1st then the run would not count that is not a time play

No argueing just not the way I understand it. With two outs the batter runner must reach 1st base safe before the run can count. with an appeal it means he never made 1st base
May 29, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Missing 1st Base Before the Throw Arrives

He makes a safe call because the runner got to the bag before the throw but the appeal must be made before the runner returns to first if they appeal before the runner gets back then the run would not count if it was the third out.
As this would still be a force

second play:
if it is a force out at second than no the run would not count, However if it was not a force play.
and defense appeals runner missing second then run would count

Come on Stick let them know

May 28, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Missing 1st Base Before the Throw Arrives

Sorry missed the scenario of runner missing second base

That is the correct ruling in ASA as well as major league baseball. Not sure about SSUSA.


If a runner missed 2nd base and went to third the cutoff man is standing on second and catches the ball but does not appeal the umpire does not call him out WHY because he has considered touching the base unless you have an appeal.

Just as above once the runner crosses the base he has assumed to have touched the base unless appealed.

Glad you brought that one up good discussion will ensure LOL
May 28, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Missing 1st Base Before the Throw Arrives

That is the correct ruling in ASA as well as major league baseball. Not sure about SSUSA.


If a runner missed and base and went to third the cutoff man is standing on second and catches the ball but does not appeal the umpire does not call him out WHY because he has considered touching the base unless you have an appeal.

Just as above once the runner crosses the base he has assumed to have touched the base unless appealed.

Glad you brought that one up good discussion will ensure LOL
May 5, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Outfielder caught a flyball with a first baseman mitt?

Not sure about Senior softball but ASA Rule states

I am almost sure ASA changed the rule about 3 years ago that a mitt can be worn by any player

ASA Rule 3-4
A Glove/Mitt may be worn by any player. The dimensions of any glove/mitt used by any fielder shall not exceed the specifications set forth below (see drawing and specifications). (Fast pitch) The Pitcher's glove may be of one solid color or multicolored as long as the color(s) are not the color of the ball being used in the game.

NFHS Rule 1-4
Art. 1...Gloves/mitts shall:
a. Be a maximum of two colors excluding lacing and manufacturer's logo colors.
Lacing shall not be the color of the ball.
b. Not be entirely gray, white or optic in color.
c. Not have a gray, white or optic colored marking on the outside or inside that gives the appearance of the ball.
d. Be permitted to have one American flag not to exceed 2 inches by 3 inches.
e. Not be judged as distracting by the umpire.


April 29, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: obstructed base

I think you would have to revert back to Rule 10 section 1 in the ASA rule book. because I have looked in all 4 association rule book
ASA
NSA
USSSA
ISA
and none of them covers that play.

But the rule 10 of ASA does say

The plate umpire shall have the authority to make decisions on any situation not specifically covered in the rules..
This is not covered so you would have to live with his decision.


I would hope since the obstruction caused the player to miss the base, that the umpire would call him safe. If not I would have my second baseman to obstruct every runner that came by and get some easy outs.
April 21, 2015
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Breakaway Bases

Don't go to the trouble, they are a safer on slides but slow the game down a lot. when you slide into a base most of the time you will have to stop the game and make sure you brush the bottom pan off or the base will pop off real easy even on a runner going from 1st to third. Or the other kind with the square pan in the ground every time someone slids you have to stop the game and get the infield dirt out of the bottom pan, so the base will fit down in the female anchor.
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