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Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Ok it appears that stick is an umpire or player with a lot of rule knowledge

Give me an answer to this one

Runner on third batter hits a line drive toward third, the runner jumps into foul ball territory however the ball hits the base making it a fair ball then bounces over and hits the runner standing in foul area.

whats the call

the runner got hit by a fair ball but he is standing in foul ground?
Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Well since the pitcher did not touch the ball
The ball would be dead the runner called out and the batter would be awarded a hit and placed on 1st base

You now have two outs with a runner on first.

If the pitcher had touched it and no other defensive player had a chance to make an out then the ball would remain alive unless the runner intentionally made contact with the ball

Stick you have to come up with something harder than that.

Lets say the runner at second was still on the bag at second when the ball contacted him
now what is the ruling
Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Another scenerio
Runner on second with 2 outs
Batter hits what appears to be a double
runner on second scores but misses 3rd base
running sliding into second gets tagged out for 3rd out
defense appeals the runner that was on second for missing 3rd base. That appeal would be a fourth out appeal to nullify the run
Oct. 11, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Las Vegas Fields and Umpires

The batters boxes that I saw at BLD was 4 x 6
that is a baseball batters box
Slow Pitch is 3 x 7

Makes the batter move in closer to the plate and hard to handle the inside pitch but lets you stand up in front of the plate and hit that low short pitch
Sept. 20, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hr or out

Lets get real technical
Bases loadeed much touch next base after homerun
Runner on Third touched wrong plate and called out
No runs would score and the homerun counts against teams total

No that would be a back breaker
Sept. 19, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Las Vegas Schedule

Guys most of us have between 12 and 14 people on our teams
Thats less than $60.00 a piece for 3-4 days of some really great softball and frienships.

Most of us would think nothing of going to a show and spending $60.00 apiece for 2 hours of entertainment
So this is a deal for me
Sept. 18, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Flip Flop Rule

The flip flop rule would not have to be used if the team winning by more than the run rule would not switch places on defense and act like a bunch of 5th graders just so they can bat again


Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at first

Not following you on the last sentence

Adult slowpitch question

Runner beats throw to first but steps completly over first a split second later the ball arrives and the 1st baseman catches the ball
Does the Umpire call the runner out?
Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Another You Make The Call

The reason I wpuld say out is

If there had been other runners on If I was a player I would do that to try and draw a throw to home and let my other runners advance. If I was going to be safe anyway, what would I have to lose
Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Another You Make The Call

That is a good one, I would rule that once he heads back to third he has to retag home to be called safe. I would call him out
Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at first

1st off I do not think any umpire has good enough vision to say that the runner stepped on the foot and at least some part of his cleat or foot did not touch the bag.

And this would be an appeal play anyway. He would have to appeal the runner miseed the base and tag him before he got back to the base.

Rule the runner is assumed to have touched any base once he is beyond that base and has to be appealed
Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Another You Make The Call

Would like to invite any wierd play, ask the question and lets get some of these out in the open.

Thats the problem is most players do not know the wierd rules and just go back to what they have heard all the years that they have been playing and most of the times they were not enforced correctly.


Question does one of the runner have to be out when two runners occupy the same base during a live ball?
Aug. 21, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Another You Make The Call

The way Stick asked the question the run would count. Because the 3rd out of the inning was not the result of a force out but rather a time play.
However if the defense had appealed the runner at 3rd for leaving early the umpire would have had to evoke the 4th out rule which would have canceled the run.
Aug. 7, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: ISA Worlds in Columbus, In

If they went 1-1 in pool
then in bracke>> look at 5 team 3gg bracket
win game 1
now they are 2-1
lose 2nd game in bracket now 2-2
lose third game in bracket now 2-3 but still in tournament
they would have to play loser of game 6 so game 6 can get the 3 gg that would explain your question

so they could be 2-4 before they are eliminated
Aug. 7, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: ISA Worlds in Columbus, In

Crump
Please how many losses was in pool and how many was in bracket play

If the bracket was posted before the tournament then what is the big deal

I am looking at a 5 team 3gg bracket and the loser of game 1 could lose game 1 game 4 and game 5 and still be in the bracket so that team would have to lose 4 games before they are eliminated

Don't believe me go look up a 5 team 3gg bracket
July 22, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ball not supplied by Senior Softball

I would say if the pitcher pitched it it should become legal until defense discovers it.
The pitcher should look at every bal that is thrown in the game before he pitches it.

Now you could put in a rule if the team throws in the incorrect ball and the pitcher discovers it before pitching a strike is called on the batter. The second time in a game and the manager is ejected. It might happen once by accident. But if it happens more than once in a game that is is trying to sneak something over on you.
July 15, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA COLUMBUS INDIANA

Mr Missouri Dave.

I have been to all the ISA Senior Championships and Jerry Jackson has never ran a tournamenmt in Kentucky.

Sounds to me like your team lost and just trying to down grade Jerry Jackson.

I do know the rains came down in St Louis and he did the best he could with the situation. Not to your likenings but he did the best he could.

I agree two of the fields were not the best but not as bad as I have seen.

I went to all the parks in the Columbus area and the one complex was state of the art and there were no others except the ones he used.

I will be back in Columbus this year because the fields were more than adaquate and the UMPs were close to the best we have seen in any Senior Tournaments in any Association.
And the prize package was the best we have seen at a Senior World except the SSUSA.
June 27, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call

Since the ball was never caught and dislodged this would be considered an overthrow. So it would be 2 bases from the last base touched at time of throw for all runners behind the runner that scored.

If the cather had caught the ball and the ball became dislodged from the cather either on a swipe tag or a small collision at the plate and rolled into dead ball area. That would be 1 base ffrom the last base touched at the time the ball went into dead ball area.

Sounds kind of the same but entirely different
March 26, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Mesquite TOC

Tatt22 I would guess your team did not play well.
March 26, 2013
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Mesquite TOC

Not sure it was ever a triple elimination.
I think it was 2 seeds into a 3 game minimum. Not a 3 game elimination
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