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Discussion: finding results of tournies

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Nov. 12, 2013
2424
11 posts
finding results of tournies
Seems like SSUSA would love to post tournament results to keep all of us unfortunate players who did not get to go informed. Thanks to the guys who posted the winners of the TOC in Ft. Meyers. It would be nice to see who did what in each game. Maybe I am overlooking the results and if so please show me the way to find them.
Nov. 12, 2013
rabbit
Men's 65
297 posts
2424, in this day and age of i-phones,-i-pads, wifi ,and smart phones, there is no reason why they can not post the scores at the moment the game ends,on each bracket,at each park in my opinion. Instead of all the officials hovered around picnic tables talking most of the time. But since they have all the money,already in the bank, they just do not get in a hurry,nor do they really care.
I would assign one person to each park, and their job would be to make sure this was done on a timely basis,like right after the scores were brought too the head table by the umpire in charge. Like i said, just my opinion.
Nov. 12, 2013
Chief144
Men's 60
64 posts
Well, it didn't take long before people started complaining about results being posted. I don't know how much you know about running a tournament with 132 teams, all of the coaches, players, etc. If you did, you might understand why the results don't get posted right away.
Most of the time there is 1 TD at each site and he is busy answering questions from coaches, players, wives, and even umpires. They work long hours, not just the 2 games you show up to play, which most likely are on time and you don't even realize the TD is there!
I am sure SSUSA would be glad to take your suggestion about having someone at each venue to post scores on the iPad you have provided and will pay their expenses for the tournament.
The results are usually posted within 2 weeks of the event. Sometimes when you have two tournaments back to back, across the country, it might take a little longer.
Just relax, play some softball, have fun, and Bless the Lord that you are still able to play this game!
Just my opinion!
Nov. 13, 2013
rabbit
Men's 65
297 posts
and it is a good opinion Chief, and i am relaxed and who wants to know the results 2 or 3 weeks later
Nov. 13, 2013
Perl
105 posts
The USSSA posts results the same day for their tournaments. The D/E worlds often have more than 100 teams. It can be done if the organization wants to put forth the effort. That being said, the USSSA may have a much larger staff than SSUSA or have a person dedicated to updating the brackets.
Nov. 13, 2013
boogpow44
52 posts
The top 3 teams in each age bracket would be a good start.
Nov. 13, 2013
Yankee fan
3 posts
As a 50 AA team we are looking for places we can play against teams within our own classification. We have been looking at tournaments from this past year for some indication for possibilities for next year but too many tournaments don't list either. It would be great to be able and look up who played in each tournament and the see results. The list of participants before the tournament and the results 1-2 weeks afterward. What does SSUSA expect after each tournament?
Nov. 14, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
1st off the 'instant' postings has been tries once or twice on here but neither were complete or long lasting. Basically a one shot try fro each. But they got some up so you know it's possible. I think the prefer the hard copies all together and done when they get them rather than each TD posting on their laptops or phones. Over expediency getting the info out there.

2nd Yankee fan, If your talking about SSUSA events go to the tournament header and at bottom you can see results bot most past events and on many still have results with teams listed but not all. most teams go to same places every year** so check 3-4 events out your interested in and see who showed up and didn't cancel out on. ** Barring moves up or down or age bracket changes.
As happens you may end up playing teams you would normally anywhere else, which I do not like, but it happens.
Try the bigger events PHX, Reno, Vegas no specific order there but the better ones.

Only a few events (Assns) list participants for the smaller ones Marv in so cal does a good job at that but IMO some are mixed but you sure get that here as well. Usually posted on main page.
NCSSA doesn't list teams unless they happen to post game times timely which they do not do all the time like they are supposed to do according to their own rules. But if done you know who got in about a week or so before if lucky. Some are very good events but a few TD's seem to pick and choose who gets in as well.
Nov. 14, 2013
southernson
259 posts
Chief144,
With all due respect your response is laughable. They are called entry "FEES" for a reason. I'm sorry it ain't volunteer work skippy..... Yeah, recording 5 results an hour to a web page, ooh, that's a tough one. And all the bitheads just chuckled...
Nov. 14, 2013
2424
11 posts
Great responses and didn't mean to sound rude. However, I have ran tournaments with over 150 involved and had results out by supper. I, not a computer junkie, had friends who are and they knocked it out easily. As Rabbit stated in today's day and time this is easily accomplished with laptops or even phones. As each team gives the scores to the over worked directors they record them on line and push one button and they are out for the world to see. Golf tournies do this, disc golf tournies do this as well as AAU baseball and basketball tournies do. In a DG tourney with 180 players scores are out before lunch is over after the first round. In softball write the score and click the button. I know it is a hassell for dirctors with all the work of maintaining fields, umps, players, concessions and the such but there are programs on line to do this. Several players did not get to make certain tournies and only wish not to wait two weeks for results. Sorry but there are easy answers to posting results and I do feel for all the work those directors do at their tables. They do not get the praise they should. The directors at the many tournies we played in were overworked and under paid and always scholars and gentlemen.
Nov. 14, 2013
STL0
38 posts
It is hard to understand why this would be difficult to do. They could at least post the information the day after the tournament at a minimum w/o too much difficulty. Maybe there is something we are missing but no one has explained it yet.

SSUSA is really a service organization and should be working to satisfy it customers (the players). It would seem something this easy to implement that their customers want would be something they would have interest in doing. I think overall SSUSA does a darn good job of running things but everyone should always be trying to get better.
Nov. 14, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
Well I can see reasons, justifications, excuses, time, la.z-ness, pc or cell doesn't work, better things to do... oh crap, i'll do it later....list is too long...lol

It's actually easier\faster to get results, but not all scores from players who were there, even though it's usually only the brackets they were in & not many who actually play post on here.

Do not agree on last type or org but yes on rest of that last para. 1st sentence.
As for interest I think they do have that, but most cut into $$ so their not employed I think. Yes for last part as well.
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Yea another boring post, Dave. :>) Sometin ta do....
Nov. 15, 2013
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
Understood based on current format.

However there has to be a way to "just post scores" who won, who lost and score

I dont think it is needed to fill out the actual bracket which is probably why it cant be done with current software?

People just want to see scores, seeding games or actual tournament.

It could be "as simple" as starting a new thread for discussion on friday or saturday nights at a tournament and listing all the games played that day???

I've posted on this site from a smart phone so you would think the guy in charge at each facility could post the scores from that complex each day, per division???
Nov. 15, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
17 Black In a 4 letter word.....work.

Would have been better I think to have seen Dave's post at the start.
But too, if proprietary, there should be a fix from the creator by some means...
Nov. 15, 2013
JT9
Men's 55
33 posts
17Black It can be done with relative ease if it was a priority. Sounds like the software might need an upgrade :)
Nov. 15, 2013
southernson
259 posts
There's no special anything needed. It's called, email the scores as they occur, someone receives them and updates the PDF document that already exists for the brackets (that's if you don't have the laptop at the site), at the end of the day the PDF doc gets published to the website. Easy routine stuff, it's just not a priority.
Nov. 15, 2013
STL0
38 posts
Dave Dowell - One of the things I have an issue with at work is people telling me why thngs can't be done as opposed to telling my how we CAN get them done. Reporting tournament results doesn't need to be tied to scheduling software. The fact that it currently is isn't relevant. People just want to see ther results and it shouldn't take any type of software development to do that. As someone noted previously it could be as simple as having someone at the tournament with a computer and an air card starting a thread for each tournament and posting scores of games as rounds are completed. I appreciate all that SSUSA does and like I said before is a pretty well run organization. It's just an opportunity to improve..."that's a simple fact".
Nov. 17, 2013
JGogo
Men's 65
16 posts
I just spent three weeks playing in the MSBL Baseball World Series in Phoenix. We played in major league spring training complexes all over the Phoenix area. All of our scores were posted on line immediately after the games. The managers call a number and the scores are verbally transmitted to a staff member who inputs the scores.

The Roy Hobbs Baseball World Series in Fort Myers is in it's fourth week and all the scores are posted on line the day if the games. This subject has been brought up many times in the past and SSUSA just ignores these posts and continues to do business as usual.
Nov. 18, 2013
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
Another reason scores on-line in "real time" would help----------we were at the SSUSA tourney in Ft Myers last week, and we were done early on Friday, our hotel was 15 miles/30 minutes away. Games still going on for a few hours.

Instead of sending guys back to field to check brackets or call a phone number that just goes to a voice mail, would just make scheduling things easier. (what seed are we, what time is game tomorrow, who do we play, how did they do, etc, etc, etc)

(i.e.) just look at your phone from hotel or wherever, and know whats going on???

Nov. 18, 2013
JT9
Men's 55
33 posts
Not difficult......can be done with relative ease. Until it beomes a priority it won't happen.

Nov. 19, 2013
Skins6
Men's 55
34 posts
Can't you just take a pic of the page and email it to here? ...or am I missing something?
Nov. 19, 2013
JT9
Men's 55
33 posts
(This summer)137 teams ages 8-18.....4 venues, scores posted no later than 1 hour following the games. Simple phone call/text of game scores to an individual with administrative rights with laptop linked to the USSSA website. Pleasing the customer.........what a novel idea.

By the way.....does SSUSA ever put out an end of the year balance sheet? If so, please post on the board for all to see.

Thank you!
Nov. 20, 2013
JT9
Men's 55
33 posts
Mr.Dowell,
Thank you so much for the speedy manner in which you posted the detailed
game scores and bracket results for both events and even 2500 miles apart. Wow! you must feel a real sense of accomplishment in satisfying your members, again what a novel idea. No whining, just a simple request that my jr.high computer class could have accomplished. If you have any more tenuous communication issues networking let me know, I will alert my class.
So:
Listen to your members!!
Nov. 21, 2013
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
YES, this was fastest ever for both tourneys

THANK YOU for the effort

Nov. 29, 2013
Yankee fan
3 posts
It is great to see the results from the big tournaments. So how do we get results from the 'smaller' tournaments -- places like the Missouri Classis, or the Windy City, or the Badger Classic or the Quad Cities Tournament. Or most of the other non-Championships - I don't see results for most of the other tourneys. At very least I assume the results are all sent to the SSUSA office where they could be posted following the tournament.
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