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March 6 Sisavic 190 posts | Sac fly, RBI, and/or out? Bases loaded, one out, 5th run on 3rd base. Infield is playing in a bit and outfielders are playing just beyond the infield. Pop-up behind SS - outfielder moves-in, SS moves back, but ball drops between them and then spins toward the left field line. The ump yells "Infield Fly Ball" when ball is in the air (no argument). Runners retreat toward their bases and then run when the ball skips away from the fielders. How is this scored? Sac Fly? RBI? ?? |
March 6 Sisavic 190 posts | One more fact: all three runners advance and the 5th run is recorded. |
March 6 SSUSA Staff 3505 posts | Something like this actually happened in MLB in April, 2011, and there's an excellent (and lengthy) article about it here ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/baseball-insider/post/an-rbi-infield-fly-but-no-sacrifice-fly/2011/04/22/AFHHMQOE_blog.html To summarize the complex official scoring decision, the batter was credited with an RBI but not a Sacrifice Fly ... Therefore he has an additional at-bat and his batting average drops slightly ... VERY interesting question and analysis worth reading ... |
March 7 stick8 1992 posts | It would be similar to a batter grounding out at first with a baserunner at third scoring on the play. No hit is scored for the batter but he gets an rbi. |
March 7 Paul P Men's 65 53 posts | I would think that it would be an at bat, recorded out and error on the closest fielder, no RBI. |
March 7 SSUSA Staff 3505 posts | MLB and Elias Sports Bureau disagree with you ... The out occurred the moment the "Infield Fly" call was made ... Subsequently catching it, muffing it or having it simply drop untouched is irrelevant at that moment ... No error, one RBI and no sacrifice fly ... |
March 7 Paul P Men's 65 53 posts | The "error" occurs after the recorded out, so the instant ruling of infield fly is irrelevant to any subsequent action. Much like if a foul ball pop up is dropped, with no advance by any runners, it is still recorded as an error, depending on the official scorers interpretation of the difficulty of the catch. A further example of how this should be scored, if the fielder caught the infield fly rule ball, and a runner tagged up and tried to score,and the fielder subsequently throws it away. No RBI, error to the fielder, and an at bat out recorded. |
March 7 SSUSA Staff 3505 posts | That could be a possible ruling if that occurrence had been in the fact pattern of the original hypothetical posed. As stated, it appears as though the ball was simply a "tweener" that fell in and spun away ... You could tweak the facts to fit your reasoning any number of ways, but the original ruling we stated above is correct for this fact pattern ... Thanks for commenting! |
March 8 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | You have an out.....so no error......one rbi. |
March 8 Wayne 37 Men's 65 773 posts | BTW ~ Infield fly is called to protect the runners. Best rule of thumb there. |