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| Jan. 19 Randall 40 posts | I couldn't believe I was watching this happen, but it was an obvious attempt to distract the batter. Besides being bush league and extremely dangerous, is there a rule and or penalty that applies to this action? Thanks |
| Jan. 19 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | Yes it should be called as defensive interference batter should get 1st base or result of play if pitch was swung at. Fielder should also be warned and possible ejection if done again. |
| Jan. 19 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | I should also add this would all be if in umpire's judgement fielder's actions where to attempt to distract batter. Which in this case it appears to be the case. |
| Jan. 19 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | No such rule. We had a 5 man play to that right and 10 feet in front of his pitcher. Ump called time and told player to get back to his position. The player asked for director. Director told blue he doesn't have to be anywhere specific. He moved back after the 2nd shot went by him. This was worlds in Vegas |
| Jan. 19 SSUSA Staff 3491 posts | lb16 and HAT MAN ... It appears you have two separate hypothetical circumstances here ... In lb16's fact pattern, the fielder is charging the plate/batter with a probable intent to distract or hinder the batter ... In HAT MAN's, it appears to have been a stationary player in an unusual field position, which is not a rules infringement ... You both have it right as to your own differing situations ... See below ... __________ Rulebook §6.8(2) • DISTRACTING THE BATTER A fielder shall not take a position in the batter's line of vision or, with deliberate unsportsmanlike intent, act in a manner to distract the batter. A pitch does not have to be released. NOTE: The offending player shall also be ejected from the game. |
| Jan. 19 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | SSUSA Staff yes I was referring to Randall's situation. Don't know why people come on here (HAT MAN) and leave comments not related to the post and then give false information. So no such rule HAT MAN I think SSUSA just posted it! |
| Jan. 19 B.J. 1107 posts | Ib16, it could be that he just read your post wrong..I know I have done that.. he is correct that there is no rule where a defensive player can position himself before the pitch, except that he needs to be in fair territory... but in the OP scenario it stated he was charging the plate which as SSUSA posted is illegal and the player should have been ejected with no warning |
| Jan. 19 rightrj1 Men's 55 286 posts | Staff, Why is distracting or trying to distract a batter considered unsportsmanlike, if you're playing defense? I would think that would be good defense, just like a shift, or saying he likes the rights side or he goes middle! is there a different? |
| Jan. 19 marcster13 102 posts | Is the catcher considered a "fielder"? I ask because often catchers try talking to hitters during a pitch and disturb the hitter in various ways like coughs or grunts. I've never seen an umpire in any association tell a catcher to shut up. When I catch I am often talking to the ump or someone in the stands. Although this is not done to distract the batter I bet it bothers some. |
| Jan. 19 DaveDowell Men's 70 4321 posts | rightjr1 and marcster13 ... The rule has it's background a long time ago to address two circumstances, one of which is a bit "odd" ... The "normal" reason was to prohibit a middle infielder from standing in line behind the pitcher, waving his arms or otherwise "clowning" the batter ... The odd one is somewhat as HAT MAN described, and that was putting a stationary fielder directly in front of the pitcher to shield the initial part of the pitch's arc before it rose over that fielder's head on the way to the batter ... Those actions were considered unsportsmanlike ... As for the catcher, he's generally not considered a "fielder" during the pitch, and that dynamic of behavior between the batter, catcher and umpire is it's own little world! ... |
| Jan. 20 HAT MAN Men's 50 229 posts | Lb16 I don't know why people like you know it all and anyone else who responds differently then you clearly are fools. It's a softball board. 1 I find it hard to believe that a first baseman CHARGED THE PLATE. So the guy ran to home plate and umpire didn't stop the play... doubt it. What it seems like the op is saying to me is he ran in that direction aggressively moving from say 10 feet behind 1st to 20 feet in front of first. If that's closer to what happened then it's the same thing that happened to us but with the 5 man. So lb16 feel free to put that in your pipe and smoke it. 2nd if you have a problem with me posting feel free to message me. Vinny |
| Jan. 20 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | HAT MAN, no I don't know it all never have claimed to. I gave a correct answer to a question. You!! followed up "no such rule" so apparently you thought you knew it all! So if you didn't know for sure there wasn't a rule then why did you have to chime in? My response was to you chiming in without facts to support your response. No pipe no problem on my end apparently the problem's on your end! |
| Jan. 20 DaveDowell Men's 70 4321 posts | OK, that's enough ... TWO distinct hypothetical situations here ... TWO separate rules interpretations, one for each ... TWO knuckleheads still wanting to debate it and insult each other ... ** THREAD CLOSED ** |
