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Dec. 18, 2007
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
found on another board
i found this on another board someone might be interested in it!
Hello,

We will be hosting the Men's 45 and Over Nationals in Roseville, CA this year. The tournament date is September 5th - 7th.

The entry fee is $350. I am the tournament director. We plan on having a few 45 & Over tournaments in 2008.

If you have any questions about this tournament, please contact me at 916-501-3913 or at asatournaments@yahoo.com.

Thank you,

Gary Ybarra
Dec. 18, 2007
AZBaller
44 posts
Put it back on the board you found it, It's ASA!!!!!!!!
Dec. 18, 2007
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
why aren't you good enough to play asa?
its like senior ball right?
Dec. 18, 2007
GT
Men's 60
162 posts
Hey, some of us grew up with ASA. Just cause we live in spa terrotory, doesn't mean we can't play ASA. Might be interesting. My 2 cents.
GT
Houston
Dec. 18, 2007
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
The ASA 40 and 45 Nationals are great tourney's, nice to see one of these on the west coast this year. Some of these fellows participating are still at the top of their games. I have had many an argument that you don't hit your softball prime until your late 30's and early 40's.
Dec. 18, 2007
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
the problem with the west coast 45 and over, no one goes.
Three years ago went to Haywood (outside of SF)
12 teams, most of them Calif teams. Half the teams swinging juiced bats. Was not fun. we flew from MD.
The previous year, South Bend, 28 teams.
Dec. 19, 2007
allworld
Men's 50
19 posts
I'm on a team from california that participated in the hayward tournment. We came in six place and i saw no juiced bats or any player that i thought was using one. People must know that most the great players are from the west, with a few exception. I don't mean to ruffle anyones feathers but that's the way it is. We lost are first game 29-28 and still came in sixth place. There was some great hitter and defensive gems in that tournment. Most great players remember in there 40s' just how much better they were then in their 50s', and if you come to a tournment with a less caliber team then what's playing you will get your lunch Signed the kid @56
Dec. 19, 2007
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
allworld (big name)
We played on the field that had a thirty foot high (quessing)
fence in Center. The wind was blowing in big time, I saw more balls over that fence then had a right to. Sure, best players are in CA, blah, blah blah.
We broght our MD 50 Major plus team out to Palm Springs in 06 and beat 4 of the best. That must mean we are now the best. In cal you get to more longer, that's about it.
Dec. 19, 2007
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
And to add to my first statement, Nationals need to be in the middle of the country.
28 teams South Bend, 12 teams Haywood (most form Cali)
Dec. 20, 2007
Mango
Men's 50
90 posts
Wagon487
You seem to be a little confused about the 45. I played in the 45 in 2004. They only allowed 3 homeruns and then any ball over the fence was an out. So all those balls you claimed to have seen flying over the fence must have been outs. We won the tournament and our leading homerun hitter had 4 homeruns. I didn’t see any juiced bats just some top quality players. As Lecak says some of these players are still at the top of their game.

I can understand how you wouldn’t want to go clear across country to get worked like you did in 04 (0-2), but where were you the last couple of years? The 45 was in Mississippi this year and Alabama the previous tournament.

Just because you can’t compete doesn’t make it a bad tournament. Also wouldn’t teams rather go to a place like California where there are a variety of extracurricular options/extras to do? Is there really a big difference in airline ticket prices between the east coast and the middle of the country say Colorado?

Here’s a tip for east coast guys - check flights into Oakland or Sacramento rather than San Francisco, they are generally cheaper. Hope to see as many teams as possible in Roseville.
Mango
Dec. 20, 2007
gapper21
9 posts
Hey Lecak,I hope your able to hit your prime by the time your 60. It would be nice to see you drive a ball once in a while instead of walking all the time. By the way, what are you hoping for under your Christmas tree this year?

And on a more personal note, Merry Christmas to you and Rose and I hope you have a really great Christmas. I'm looking forward to playing again in January.
Ray
Dec. 20, 2007
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
I played in the 45+ in Mississippi this year as well as Auburn, Al and Albany, Ga in the past two or three years. There were some great teams and there were some "hot" bats. There was much discussion on The Old Scout about the bat used by the winning team.
Dec. 21, 2007
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
Mango, thanks for the input. We did fly into SF, got round trip tickets for 245, whcih is a great price. If i'm not playing for a sponosred team, I figure that I will pay between 2 and 4 hundred to fly. And last time I checked, Colorado is not in the middle of the counrty:) Closer to us, that's for sure.
Granted we did not have a good tourny (it happens) there were some loaded teams out there. You are right, just becuase we were 0-2, doesn't mean that it was a bad tourny. The year before in South Bend, we were 2-2.
Maybe the 12 teams were getting me used to senior ball!
Thanks Bruce, it's good to know I'm not crazy.
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