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Discussion: BALL DISTANCE IS DETERMINED BY?

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Oct. 24, 2008
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
BALL DISTANCE IS DETERMINED BY?
1) Ball exit speed
2) Launch angle
3) Ball spin & Aerodynamics

1. Ball exit speed variables:
a. Bat speed
b. Timing
c. Sweet spot contact (i.e. Center of Percussion)
d. Bat's trampoline characteristics (eg. U2, Combat,,
etc…)

2. Launch angle variables:
a. Create an angle that drives ball upwards without
swinging up!
b. Create proper body angle with relation to the
pitch to achieve (a) above.
c. Bat's intrinsic "angle of defect" characteristics (does
the bat "thrust" the ball into the air naturally?)

3. Ball spin variables:
a. Apply ideal underpin for Aerodynamics (fly like an
airplane)
b. Avoid cleaving down through the ball (creates an
adverse affect on distance)
c. Avoid hitting the ball directly in the “teeth”!
(Knuckleballs find the ground quickly but are tough to
catch)

Bashbro1 (Ruth 60’s SSUSA Major Champions for 2008)
Oct. 24, 2008
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2691 posts
It looks as if you have put a considerable amount of time into this.
You didn't mention the mass of the bat. For instance, a 30oz bat compared to a 26oz bat. I wouold assume the distance with the 30 would be greater provided the bat speed is the same.
Oct. 24, 2008
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
Great post, might add outside temp and ball temp, both of which also effect it. I say ball temp because some keep them in areas different that outside playing temp.
Oct. 24, 2008
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
BruceGA and taits....right you guys are. The kinetic energy transferred to the ball is the result from the standard equation that (.5) times the bat's mass (say 30oz) times the velocity squared of the bat being swung determines the force applied to the ball at impact. Depending of course on the players strength will determine his ideal bat weight and then the goal is to maximized the energy transferred to the ball.

How could I forget "conditions"? I guess in retrospect I'd have to say my post had a tacit assumption..."all things being equal", which I hate to say. I believe I once read an article where Mike Macenko was asked by an investigated slowpitch reporter..."what would you say is the main key to hitting home runs like you do big Mike?" Mike came back with. "conditions", "conditions", "conditions"!!! I loved it!

bashbro1
Oct. 24, 2008
Mitch
Men's 50
68 posts
basbro1, in your post about big Mike, would you say he changed his "bat" depending on conditions or the way he swung the bat depending on conditions. In other words, if he had the wind in his face, would he change his bat or the way he swings it? Or, say on a hot day vs. a cold day? I'm not sure if I'm making any sense but hopefully you'll get my point. Thanks
Oct. 24, 2008
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
bashbro1 stick to shooting the female with your camera! great pic of az by the way
Monta
(ump in Lincoln ca)
Oct. 24, 2008
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
bash i thought distance equaled how far it was hit ( : o)
Oct. 24, 2008
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
Mitch. You make an excellent point but I don't know what Big MM does in that case but it would seem to me to grab a bat that doesn't "throw" the ball high in the air!

Monta. I mentioned to Paradise Pete that you were not in AZ last weekend and he said..."good now I know I'll get some calls"!! LOL

mad-dog. If I remember my high school algebra/heath class the formula was "the angle of the dangle is sometimes equal to heat of m_ _ _!

bashbore1
Oct. 24, 2008
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
bashbro1 i know it sucked i had to go to unemployment! Pete got lucky there! you going to las vegas"
M
Oct. 25, 2008
bashbro1
Men's 60
266 posts
Softy: Yes the Ruth 60's plan on being in Lost Wages for the SSUSA Winter Worlds. Hope for ideal whether? I mean weather the whether is good or bad we'll be there weather or not.

Bashbro1 has to get some sleep. I've been partying since our Worlds victory last Sunday in AZ!
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