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Discussion: Where is the schedule?

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Oct. 16, 2009
Ozone8
Men's 60
7 posts
Where is the schedule?
Could someone explain why the schedule for session #3 (Oct 23-25) of the Worlds in Phoenix has still not been posted? It is now less than one week away.

Session #1 pairings were posted 11 days and session #2 matchups were given 9 days before the start of those sessions.
Oct. 16, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
There is only one person who does this stuff and he is also the TD at one of the parks in PHX... It may be later than many want to get it but it should be soon.
I've been looking for it too.
Oct. 16, 2009
DaveDowell
Men's 60
1048 posts
The Session #3 Schedule is currently under construction and will be posted as soon as complete. Probable publication date by Monday evening. In the interim, if your team is participating, you may count on playing on Friday and Saturday, and Sunday is possible if you have been successful to that point. As a reminder, schedules are released as official ONLY at the Manager's Meeting on Thursday evening. Any prior publication versions are DRAFT only, and published only as a courtesy. Thank you.
Oct. 17, 2009
Ozone8
Men's 60
7 posts
My sympathies to the overworked individual who must do the schedule and TD at the fields as well but this is too much.
As someone trying to get off work and drive to Phoenix, the difference between playing Friday morning or afternoon is significant to me.
Once again, session #1: 11 days, session #2: 9 days and now session #3: only 3 days.
Oct. 17, 2009
SSUSA Staff
1210 posts
Official SSUSA Travel Advisory: Plan your travel arrangements as though you will be playing at 8:00 AM on the first day and that you are fortunate enough to win the "If Needed" game, typically scheduled at 3:30 PM (although possibly a bit later because of schedule spillage) on the last day. If you plan accordingly, you will have no problems. Schedules for Session #3 will be released as soon as completed, and the timing of the release of the first two sessions are irrelevant. The Men's 55's are playing from 8:00 AM on Friday through 3:30 PM on Sunday.
Oct. 18, 2009
Ozone8
Men's 60
7 posts
I wouldn't know where to start on that statement, so never mind....
Oct. 18, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
Ozone8,
Just read part of the first line: "Plan your travel arrangements as though you will be playing at 8:00 AM on the first day ...."
That is what I and most others do I say unless the sched is posted or some other thing is part of the equation.
If it come out in trime to re arrange your own sched you might still be able to, room arrangements and air travel are problems there though.
Oct. 18, 2009
Ozone8
Men's 60
7 posts
Would you mind calling my boss and telling him all that?
Seriously, I guess the sage words of Roger Clemen's boy Brain McNamee say it all: "It is what it is".
Oct. 19, 2009
Swampy
24 posts
With over 300 teams scheduled to attend the Phoenix tournament, the task of organizing where/when teams will play, assigning umpires, concessions and everything else is a major job. It is obviously impossible to fulfill the travel wishes of everyone. Granted, everyone should expect to be ther Thursday evening, ready to play Friday morning, and plan to leave late on Sunday or early Monday morning. Easier said than done for some. An extra day of hotel, car rentals, and food costs may be a strain on some and this may be avoided if schedules are posted sooner. I know some will say, "if you can't afford the extra day, you shouldn't come." Well, the goal should be to get as many teams to the event as possible.

Now, knowing this tournament is going to attract more than 3 times as many teams as any of the others, it is already broken into 3 segments, why can't there be 1 person assigned to the scheduling of each segment. Let them start to work on this after the Oct. 1 deadline and then get together with the director to review any potential conflicts.

We love the game of softball and want to attend, but most have gone through some financially troubling times this year and the value of a couple hundred dollars carries a litle more weight.
Oct. 19, 2009
Ozone8
Men's 60
7 posts
Great post, Swampy.
Oct. 19, 2009
Dbax
Men's 60
1267 posts
Waaaaaaa!
Oct. 19, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
There are only 4 full time employees that I know of, a couple other part timers, a volunteer occasionally and 2 contractual for the web site. That should be pretty close.
The one who does 98% on the posting for them is the ONLY one who constructs the schedules as well, and works as a TD at most of the events.
Perhaps better planning on your part for asking for the time off might ease the worry. Hundreds of players are still working and seen to work it out. But costly either way...
Heck, I'll call in for you and tell the boss your sick.
Sick of worrying about it, sick of working, sick of playing, but in fact just the flu. Should be back Mon. lol
As for when they start working on it I'd bet well before the deadline. (Like when entry fees start arriving) But even after it passes, there are always changes: teams drop, schedules change, fields might change as well.
Throw in the TD responsibilities, and any other job responsibilities. I'd say his day is filled up.
i do know he has been working on here Very early in the am and late nights.
Oct. 19, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
Dbax, go direct traffic... lol
Oct. 19, 2009
Swampy
24 posts
I understood the initial post about ONE guy doing the scheduling and a TD at most of the events. Perhaps better planning on both sides should be in order. Delegation to have others do some of the scheduling would lower the work load. Oh yes, I have a little more integrity than to call in sick when I am not.
Oct. 19, 2009
taits
Men's 65
4357 posts
Swampy,
I figured you did like most people that is why the, lol was there.
Knowing SOME of what each do there, I'd say it would make matters worse to 'delegate' any more than is currently done. That (t-scheduling) alone is a full time job, throw in a few others you have the play catch up game or jet lag.
imo
Oct. 19, 2009
Duke
Men's 60
708 posts
Hey Guys,

I agree it is getting late in knowing our schedules. BUT, Dave has made it very clear, that no schedule posted is official till Thursday night at the manager's meeting. Like Taits posted, some teams drop out, then the entire schedule has to be revamped for bracket play and a small adjustment for seeding games. If you have been following the number of teams entered for The Phoenix Worlds, you will have noticed a fluctuation in the number of teams attending.

I know it makes a huge difference whether you play Friday morning or Friday afternoon. If you play Friday afternoon, you may be able to avoid missing work on Thursday. All of my players, except one, are working half day on Thursday, then driving up to Phoenix at 1 PM. The other player is leaving at 4 PM after work, and driving up then. He will probably not arrive till midnight. The earliest possible game time on Friday would be between 8 AM and 9 AM. With the latest game times probably before dark, since most of us seniors see better in the day time. LOL!

Dave said we will have the schedules today, so I would think that we will. If not, I would think that he will advise us otherwise. If a team drops out where there is a large number of teams for that division, then he will have to redo the brackets, and what a mess, when you consider a 5 game guarantee set up with 2 seeding games to seed you into a 3 game guarantee double elimination bracket. Never saw anything like this when I was playing in my younger days. It was 2 games and you could be out. All of this considered, the schedules posted today or tonight will not be official till the manager's meeting on Thursday night.

Dave, I appreciate all of the hard work you do in making this a fun and enjoyable tournament each year. Where the heck are the schedules already! Just kidding!!

Andy Smith,
Double Nickels,
Manager/Coach
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