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| April 29 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | I've been accused of being a day late and a dollar short before but here's one that was brought to my attention this past weekend in Antioch. The defensive team after recording the third out of the inning takes the ball into the duggout and switches it for a "better"/different/ hotter ball. As and if I see this one time I will call it to everyone's attention, you can bet on it. A contest is only a contest when it is conducted fairly. Only then can a true winner emerge. Anything less is masturbation disguised as playing softball and a waste of everyone else's time and investment. Cheating or playing cutthroat in senior ball comes from being insecure and being afraid to lose. It's no manly or in the true spirit of Senior Softball. |
| April 29 Capt Kirk 541 posts | Albert, the only worse case scenario would be if your where the pivot man in a circle jerk. |
| April 29 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Joe I can only hope you called the manager on this breach of sportsmanship. Unless it was passed on to you from another team it is the duty or responcibility of each of us to keep our game clean and the cheaters out. |
| April 29 Dirty Men's 50 1371 posts | Old guys actually do silly crap like that? Amazing. Sad, and amazing. :( |
| April 29 Omar Khayyam 1357 posts | Think of the logistics. This could be a one-inning cheat only. Team A is on defense, they exchange the sock in the dugout for a lively ball and hit against Team B with that. Then what? Team B leaves the lively ball on the mound, and Team A pitcher carries the sock back out and somehow exchanges it and tosses the lively ball back to the dugout? Too risky. I suspect it was just a fable that someone told einstein, maybe just to rattle his chain. But if true, it wasn’t pulled against einstein’s team, because he has the cajones to confront the other manager...or more. Assuming it’s true, I would be interested in einstein’s thoughts on what would cause a team to cheat this way. This is not an altered bat that one player benefits by. This is a stratagem that the whole team is in on. Is it unique to younger 50/55 players? To major or major plus teams? To certain managers who gather cheats for their team? It is more than bad sportsmanship—it is cheating and should be dealt with severely (how about banning the team for the rest of the year?). |
| April 29 birdie Men's 70 802 posts | It is always the MANAGER's. responsibility to know what is going on but as we know there are some huge egos out there and this could have been done by just one cheater who had the means to switch balls form sock to rock. say a pitcher or the first infielder to the mound. Thanks Harry |
| April 29 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | I have always believed it's the pitcher who should know what ball he is pitching. If the other team calls time out and throws a new ball in, our pitcher always looks at it, if its not legal, back to their dugout it goes. This has happened several times to us in senior ball ! |
| April 29 birdie Men's 70 802 posts | I am probably too naive but I believe that most people are honest. The ones that are not will ultimately get what is coming to them.Shame on the people that need to cheat they are lowly human beings.Thanks Harry |
| April 30 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | In my 37+ years of SB I have only seen the ball exchange twice in my younger days and heard about it twice in Senior games this was the second. But for bats that started after the banning by ASA and depending on ones definition: from vicing, rolling, malleting, shaving, painted decals or what ever, still continues and is everywhere. |
