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Cure for AAA after 3rd HR!» Steve 27: Possible cure for protecting the pitcher in AAA after the 3rd homer! ...»Webbie25: Would the team that has hit the three home runs also have the 11th ... »Jawood: I have been thinking for a while that the minimum lineup be an 11 man ... »leftyodoul: It's not really a viable solution. It gives too big of an edge to ... »L: Wow what an idea this sure would make teams really consider what ... »L: I would like to also point out that the 1-1 count is a good thing for ... »Steve 27: To address webbie25's comment on advantage. A true AAA team doesn't ... »Jawood: L, How old are you? lol. Wasn't the last year of unlimited arc 1976? ... »L: Yes I played when there was unlimited arc and does not seem that long ... »L: Jarwood I do not know when you started but I can remember when they ... »Steve 27: Jawood is correct. 1976 was the year of unlimited arc. Absolute worst ... »L: Steve 27 why was it such a bad rule you didnt have pitchers getting ... »Jawood: 1976 was my first year of softball, what a year to break in! L, the ... »miken44: if this is way we are thinking about a extra fielder why not just put ... »Webbie25: Steve-great point- a TRUE AAA team won't. The exception could be a ... »rightrj1: The extra fielder sounds like a good Idea! BUTTTT My question would ... »Webbie25: miken-you are throwing in the towel. No screen, please, at least at ... »Omar Khayyam: In contrast to Steve 27, I thought the unlimited arc was one of the ... »Beasley: I have to ask - why would you build a AAA team that is going to hit ... »Webbie25: Beasley-that is exactly what they try to do, but it is not so easy ... »L: Beasley is correct about how to build a AAA team. But I also believe ... »boston: Please no more changes to the game. Here's a cure for AAA HR rule. ... »SS13: hey steve....great idea »southernson: I fail to realize in all of these type discussions there is almost a ... »Omar Khayyam: southernson, I'm sure some AAA teams will be penalized by having a ... »miken44: what about the way teams are ranked by ssusa and spa in one you can ... »softball4b: One day a AAA team may look like a Major team, and next week, they ... »jsheeran: Why should AAA teams who routinely hit more than 3 homers a game ... »mad dog: jsheeran,and the problem is they want the AAA hrs over 3 to be ... »samg: I think some AAA teams do not move up because in the region you play ... |
29 | Jan. 8, 2013 | 1106 |
Ratings-New Team» Capt Kirk: Is there any flexibility in the new team rating rule, for instance if ...»J R: Captain will you email me the contact info for the crackers 70 team. ... »Capt Kirk: J.R. this is the info that I have on the Crackers, I don't know if ... »warren60: JR Is there hitting in Houston on the weekend in the winter? »J R: Yes every Saturday at Bayland park. Call 713-778-1824 for weather ... |
4 | Jan. 8, 2013 | 592 |
One and One Results» Webbie25: There are several things that are clear from this poll. 1. Florida ...»Brusco: Webbie, Some apathy I am sure. I voted and love to play no matter ... »Fabe: I agree all that output and low turnout? People just want to play ... |
2 | Jan. 7, 2013 | 376 |
THANKS SSUSA» SCRAPPY: I wish to say thanks to SSUSA for asking me to vote on the 1-1 count ...»Fabe: I agree mahalo for the work required to do this survey! Too bad that ... »the wood: Yes, thanks, SSUSA. It does take a lot of effort to offer this ... »taits: Scrappy, I like the last sentence... Happy New Year Mike, goes for ... |
3 | Jan. 7, 2013 | 308 |
One more time on 1 and 1 count» missouridave: After completion of the survey,it will be very interesting to see if ...»Capt Kirk: Our league (SASSL), we have 50's, 60's, 65's, 70's, & 75's divisions. ... |
1 | Jan. 6, 2013 | 331 |
Alternative to 1 - 1 rule.» Steve 27: I ran a tournament years ago and went with this pitch count. 3 balls ...»Robo2: Steve, I rather have the standard count but am open to your idea of 3 ... »JDub: 3-3 Alternative is no big deal, but I would still prefer none to ... »southpaw: I personally like 1/1, but 3/3 sounds great as well. I do like the ... »southpaw: matter! »Webbie25: Just a comment-if you were a hitter trying to work a walk, wouldn't ... »southpaw: Very thoughtful question Webbie. Would that only hold true if the ... »boston: Webbie »boston: Webbie: Sorry, hit enter instead of shift. Anyway why would anyone ... »Webbie25: boston-you know me. How often do I walk? »sliplayer: Rarely!!! »Webbie25: I thought I might get a reply out of you, sliplayer. After you had a ... »boston: Webbie: I hear ya. If I happen to walk my teammates start making ... »Webbie25: We're not going to Tucson, but it might be fun to get down there ... »boston: of course it's southern NM. Three inches of snow caused 20 accidents ... »Tim Millette: Since this thread is about alternatives... Maybe instead of 3-3 ... »Webbie25: Why not eliminate the walk? If a player TAKES 2 strikes he is out. If ... »garyheifner: Steve Please don't ever take away the mat. Most umps don't have a ... |
17 | Jan. 5, 2013 | 735 |
Clock starting for game» tall_thunder: I feel to help get a full game in, the game clock should not start ...»Webbie25: Tall thunder-last year SSUSA decided that they would put the time ... |
1 | Jan. 1, 2013 | 443 |
AAA HR rule question» garyheifner: I agree with the new rule as I have seen (at least in the midwest) ...»cal50: It is a home run. It also would have been a home run before the new ... »SSUSA Staff: The rule in question has been amended as follows and is applicable at ... »southernson: Please keep the 1-1, it doesn't hurt the hitters, it doesn't impair ... »Jawood: The AAA HR rule may move some teams and players up to Major, but ... »SSUSA Staff: southernson: The current starting pitch count is "0-0". The ... »southernson: SSUSA, Thanks for the info, please go to the 1-1. 80% of our ... »garyheifner: If the 1-1 is voted down, Jawood makes a good point. Maybe use the ... »DoubleL10: I'd rather play 1-pitch if we are in such a hurry to get games done. ... »mad dog: larry that seems to be the point for the 1-1 count,the hitters are ... »taits: NOT ALL USE 1 CRAP 1 COUNT. IN EITHER ASSN. I'M AGAINST ... »garyheifner: Well, let's see: 1. 1-1 count-more agressive hitters. Play "7" ... »LP: as a coach and a player i would like the count to stay at 0-0. as a ... »mad dog: well taits you need to check your rules....USSSA has been 1-1 for at ... »taits: Bob, read the post, it doesn't say ALL ...it's NOT ALL have 1\1 ... »Marv19: For what its worth guys we used the 1 and 1 rule with one to waste in ... »GI: Just finshed playing today in Scottsdale . I enjoyed having time off ... »steve65: Gary in response to your opening post "example. Bottom of the 7th ... »steve65: just a little humor for the new year sir »JDub: Marv, since you're visiting the SSUSA Board, let me just state that ... »mad dog: taits if they are not using the 1-1 count in an ASA,USSSA,then they ... |
20 | Dec. 29, 2012 | 1374 |
AAA Home Run Outs» ChiPrimeMarty: I'm a 55AAA player, and I don't like any of the rule changes. The ...»Jawood: They wanted to make the top AAA teams move up to Major. The only ... »leftyfalcon: Looks like I'll be a tired puppy running the bases next year. I ... »chico senior: I do not agree with what ChiprimeMarty on one point. If a AAA team ... »wagon487: Jarwood, really, you want 6 HR's for AAA? If you hit six you need to ... »Duke: The following is just my opinions, so no need to jump all over me. To ... »ChiPrimeMarty: "Learn to hit the other way, hit the gaps, learn to aim" And ... »crusher: jmo - agree that 3 hr then out for AAA is a good rule. If my ... »LP: SSUSA changed the home run rule by gauging vegas, SSUSA changed the ... »JBTexas : LP, hate to disagree but if you check the Eastern and western ... »chico senior: I agree that after the HR limit has been reached that hitters will ... »GI: I will have to check with coach on this one but I do not remember a ... »Webbie25: After playing AAA from 2006-2011 when the HR limit was 3 and then an ... »southernson: Yesterday lost to a good AAA team 34-24, and they hit 11 out. They ... »Robo2: I do not play AAA but my opinion is this and is very simple. Allow ... »chico senior: Southernson - I hope you're kidding! A team hits 11 home runs ... »Enviro-Vac: SSUSA got it right. Teams that hit 3+ should be outs. If you can't ... »softball4b: Allan55 - Use the Trump ball instead of the Rock. I played with the ... »leftyodoul: Jimmy (Enviro Vac) is right. AAA should be 3 Home Runs with DBO's ... »big cat7: Doesnt anyone remember softball when it was in its best years, that ... »southernson: Chico, Not kidding here at all, we're not in BFE Nowhere USA, we're ... »softball4b: SPA rule. AAA - Five (5) run limit per team per inning, Unlimited ... »chico senior: It is SSUSA's policy to protect the lower division. Again, in my ... »Pricer: The ball & bat made me do it! Does anyone else see the direction this ... »big cat7: what is the difference if a team scores thirty runs with forty hits ... »mad dog: ok,guys hr limits have been in place since the mid 80's,so where ... »big cat7: I played on a class a team in the mid 80's and there were no limits ... »southernson: Chico, You are in a hot area as well, California, I agree. You had ... »swing for the fences : you start dumming down the balls and you will have an epidemic of ... »mad dog: and there ya go bc7 ....you played in open tourney's not class ... »Jawood: I think everyone could have lived with the new HR rule at AAA if they ... »southernson: Jawood, thanks for some common sense, this is an improved approach>> ... »titanhd: Homeruns distance ,limits and the number of homeruns seems to be what ... »crusher: I am on the 3 hr then out for AAA side. 30 runs is 30 runs. It ... »mad dog: crusher,just like i said above,there is no defense when the ball goes ... »chico senior: Crusher - I agree with you. If most of your runs are being generated ... »big cat7: SO BASICALLY PENALIZE A GUY THAT MAY WORK ON IS GAME YEAR ROUND AND ... »Fabe: Good opinions and ideas...yet HRs did not play a big role in my team ... »o.g.: if you work all year on yor gameyou should be able to hit a base hit ... »the wood: Big Cat: I gotta call BS on your last post. SSUSA isn't punishing ... »crusher: Hey BigCat Seven - You are shouting..... I workout year ... »mad dog: wood,that is perfect....most of these guys think bp is nothing but a ... »the wood: Bob, we learned to do this years ago regardless of whether we had HR ... »softball4b: IMO...1up is the ultimate equalizer. Power teams can't use their ... »big cat7: I like that softball4b having hitters instead of homers would ... »softball4b: I was not suggesting designating HR hitters as USSSA did in the 90's, ... »Webbie25: BigCat-I remember those days of designating HR hitters. You end up ... »Jawood: Looks like the brass should re-consider the AAA HR rule and add 1-up ... »Pricer: No one ups for anyone. Why continue to try and circumvent or create ... »chico senior: Pricer - Great comments! i agree 100 percent. »big cat7: so okay have limits but make them more believable like AAA 6 homers ... »crusher: By limiting AAA to 3 HR's then outs can be a big savings for the ... »Pricer: Big cat, take no offense. If you want to hit that many homeruns per ... »jsheeran: For a small fee, Pricer and I will let you in on how to design a AAA ... »birdie: Here is my take on the 3 homers then outs if you are a AAA team and ... »Pricer: Sheriff, I'm not paying any freakin fee. But enlighten the rest of ... »big cat7: i agree that maybe 6o and overs dont hit more than 3 a game but 50s ... »birdie: big cat that is why they under hand it. You get yours and we will get ... »Pricer: This is not a game of homeruns. If you want homeruns, have a contest! ... »the wood: BigCat: You use the phrase 'like the crybabies did back in the ... »big cat7: home runs have always been part of softball,put teams on two fields ... »Pricer: Got news for you, if your waiting fo someone to watch you play. ... »the wood: Well, go play on a M or M+ team and when I pay to watch a game maybe ... »big cat7: oh not me im not good enough for people to pay to watch or play on a ... »big cat7: and if you went to bigger fields or open fields wouldnt that be worse ... »the wood: While I believe that this was initially mentioned in a less than a ... »crump22: JSheeran, if you keep adding players from your old Ice team , you ... »jsheeran: Crump, don't give me any ideas.....lol..... »neck10: they cant do that then jeff might have to agree with the screen when ... »Pricer: The only screen I'll ever agree to stand behind is the one on my ... »jsheeran: Maybe we just eliminate the human pitcher and use a pitching machine ... »Pricer: Now your starting to get it! I believe with all the new equipment and ... »Fabe: Too much money involved for us to go back to the "Old Days". Just ... »Pricer: Fabe, reading most of your post and I can tell you are good man. But, ... »Omar Khayyam: Pricer, you might be right. Everyone worries about the thousands of ... »Fabe: I apologize for my unclear post...I meant the industry would not want ... »Webbie25: Too much money for the bat companies to let it happen, Omar. But even ... »DCPete: Memory might be faulty here, but didn't aluminum bats also have ... »Webbie25: You remember right, DCPete. I remember taking my Demarini's to a ... »neck10: I didnt realise what a defencesive star you are I guess it doesnt ... »neck10: pricer are you goin to use the good balls with the single wall bats ... »Pricer: Webbie, just a split second can be the deciding factor in being hurt ... »boston: I am for removing senior bats, they are far too hot. But, I do feel ... »Pricer: Boston, for the sake of asking, what's ludicrous about it? What would ... »jimjoes-gman: BIG CAT ole buddy.....was talking w/your old friend Cobb ... »Webbie25: Pricer-I agree in some cases that the split second would make a ... »Pricer: Webbie, you might be right, but you might be wrong as well. Who's to ... »big cat7: sorry i dont know who cobbie is so i think you have the wrong big ... »Webbie25: Pricer-you're right, it might or might not-never been a study. At 100 ... »softball4b: I can tell you that there is not much time difference getting to the ... »Webbie25: I got behind you once in line, Mike. I know it's true. I was puzzled ... »boston: The equipment has progressed and we must progress with it. I like the ... |
91 | Dec. 17, 2012 | 3236 |
one out bases loaded» Wes: Bases loaded one out ball hit to third base,third baseman catchs ball ...»Mario: If it was a line drive, runner on 3rd is safe. The runner running ... »Mario: Oops it should read ground ball, not bround ball. »SSUSA Staff: Wes - It was a bad day at the office for those umpires! ... ... »canIjack: IT's call a Force PLAY!!!! In what country were you playing? Your ... »stick8: Mario is correct. Those umpirtes need to attend a clinic!! »Sisavic: SSUSA: What happens if the runner on 3rd base takes one or two steps ... »Wes: Ground balls Thanks Staff the umpires were very clear that ... »cal50: Wes, If the runner stayed on the base and you tagged the base first, ... »steve65: as long as the runner stayed on third he could not be tagged out--and ... »stick8: Steve65 in the situation described, cal50 is correct. If bases are ... »SSUSA Staff: That's incorrect Steve65 - As long as the force play is intact (as ... »Sisavic: SSUSA. I'm confused, which is easy for me to become. I thought I ... »the wood: Sisavic: It's called a 'force play' for a reason. When the force is ... »Wes: Staff thanks again, is there a section in the rulls that say that the ... »SSUSA Staff: Wes - This is discussed in SECTION 8 • ON BASE SITUATIONS of the ... »Wes: That's great thanks but the 64,000 ??? still is if he is forced to ... »cal50: If you tag the runner before you tag the base he is out regardless of ... »SSUSA Staff: He's OUT, exactly as cal50 stated. The base is NOT a safe haven so ... »Webbie25: I'm amazed this thread has gone so long. I have played first base a ... |
19 | Dec. 14, 2012 | 1243 |
Grading the Rule Changes» Webbie25: Well, the rule changes are out, and going over them, after a lot of ...»cal50: I would be ok with the 4-3 count except the time limits. The SSUSA ... »swing for the fences : Wow, 1 and 1 count to start is what I would of thought was the no ... »#19: Happy to see that AAA rules are now outs after 3 home runs ... Play ... »ffdonnie: Well I'm going to give them a D. I agree with Swing, they struck out ... »swing for the fences : Don, funny you mention the HR rule! First one I thought of was you, ... »mad dog: A = for the hr rule changes....AAA don't need to be putting balls out ... »swing for the fences : everyone plays 1 and 1 in leagues... so why not make the games roll a ... »ffdonnie: Rich not pissed I'll get by. May not be there for long anyway. Dog ... »swing for the fences : yes, with your winter success and the adds this year I'm sure it ... »db14: Just for the record....NOT every league begins with a 1 and 1 count. ... »Jawood: What this AAA HR rule does is pretty much splits everything into ... »mad dog: ff,and where do i say that.....just so sick and tired of hearing the ... »Webbie25: db14-that's what I was talking about-players don't welcome the ... »Webbie25: cal50-why 50 minutes? That's silly. Was there a weather problem? We ... »taits: For myself, 0\0 count start preferred, the other really doesn't add ... »cal50: Webbie, no weather conditions at all. I went back and looked at the ... »stick8: Jawood, since major plus and major won't be combined how about if a ... »cal50: SSUSA Staff, did you address the rule allowing the home team to up 1 ... »db14: Webbie, personally i would not worry too much about what you read ... »SSUSA Staff: Cal50 - We addressed it TWICE (once directly and once indirectly) - ... »cal50: Great thank you for the response. »Ceres: I play in 2 leagues with a 0 - 0 starting count and a 55 min time ... »Wes: 1. 1 and 1 does not speed up the game you just think it does 2. ... »the wood: SSUSA rules committee members: I am impressed with outcome of your ... »titanhd: Well said Wes. Don't forget the 4 or 5 practice pitches between ... »Jawood: Stick, I know Major and Major+ will not combine. I was just pointing ... »boston: I found the stats on the number of Hr's hit in AAA very telling. it ... »Allan55: Like a number of you, I also feel the AAA home run rule change making ... »jsheeran: AAA 3 homers and then an out is perfect. I give it an A+. Home run ... »Omar Khayyam: Fairly happy with most rule decisions. I love the one about limiting ... »FreeAgent10: Someone please explain the rule change for AAA. Played 50AAA in ... »the wood: Jawood: 1-1 count - I do not care whether this is implemented or not ... »Jawood: If Major and Major+ are going to be playing against each other in 90% ... »curveball: Omar,my 70's team doesn't mind the 70' bases at all. It's makes for ... »southernson: Actually the AAA rule with more than 3 HR as outs really is a ... »Jawood: 3 HR then DBO's does seem very low. They could have given AAA 6 with ... »Tim Millette: I really think it was smart to make the pitchers box longer. Just ... »canIjack: Personally I feel SSUSA got the HR limit for AAA division wrong. ... »the wood: Jawood: You've missed my point about the 'CA/FL bordering states' ... »Omar Khayyam: curveball, I know several 70 and older players who no longer have the ... »rightrj1: I agree with the changes to the AAA hr being an out after the max has ... »taits: Tim, 'twas good to finally put a face to a name. In my area we ... »taits: The new 'box' will work for many, for it gives more room to pitch ... »softball4b: I agree with the Homerun change for AAA, but I don't know if it will ... »LP: I Think one important reason was over looked, SSUSA said there were a ... »Enviro-Vac: Good point on the ball LP. Seen a lot of HR's in Vegas Worlds at 60 ... »slyone25: I don't agree with 70' ft. base's, how could moving the bases back ... »swing for the fences : gives infielders extra time to throw runners out since the runners ... »Webbie25: slyone-just because the bases are 5 feet further doesn't mean you ... »Tim Millette: I think the major thing that was considered for the base length ... »Pricer: Someone needs to explain how the 70" bases are going to make it ... »curveball: Omar, guess it's just a difference in opinion. No matter what the ... »boston: Here's a rule that would help the baserunners on the corners. I ... »FOFO: I think that home runs ovet the limit in Major Division should be ... »stick8: Boston there are house leagues that have that rule. What's done is a ... »Jawood: I'd rather have a pulled muscle than a ball between the eyes. 5 extra ... »mad dog: stick ASA doesn't allow it either.....now for the 70' bases,most all ... »Pricer: So the 70' rule was put in more for the runners than the fielders? ... »stick8: Mad Dog I have no issues with 70 ft bases. I played it in USSSA and ... »LeeLee: Didn't they say the AAA divison was the one that hit excessive hr, ... »LP: LeeLee as i posted above it was the change in the ball is why so ... »Pricer: Did the balls add 10, 20 or 30 + feet to every ball hit? Adjustments ... »LeeLee: A statistical review by staff of ALL game cards from the 2012 World ... »tattooball: Pricer, I designed those balls way back when and yes they are 20-30 ... »stick8: LP you may not be wrong. But I'm curious to know what facility the ... »SSUSA Staff: The 50-AAA in Las Vegas played 161 games in their tournament, as ... »JamesLG: I like the rules but would have liked to see AAA HR's as 3 and 1 ... »curveball: tattooball,not sure where you were referring to at 4400 ft. above sea ... »ffdonnie: Pricer, the X-Rock had a lot to do with the very high count in Vegas. ... »boston: When I heard "The Rock' was being used in a senior tourney w/ senior ... »tattooball: I could be off a little, here is what comes up on the net. It ... »dMON: What's not to like about starting with 1-1 count? In my 10+ years ... »cal50: Regarding 1 & 1 count not saving time. If you do the math and say ... »JDub: I've been Pitching for many years, here's my input: 1) Prefer 1-1 ... »southernson: Canljack, Understand the sentiment, but we are not sandbagging. ... »twotwo: Since I play in the 50's...I would agree that the rules changes are ... »jsheeran: Major and Major + are the "Homerun Derby" levels. If all your trying ... »southernson: Guys, IMHO the idea is to grow and improve a team over time. If you ... »jsheeran: Our team does not have a team goal to "improve" to play at Major or ... »the wood: There is no one specific 'team goal' that fits every team. You make ... »dMON: Gonna have to agree with jsheeran on this. You customize your team ... »GI: dMON I agree with you about the 1-1 pitch. As a pitcher I know that ... »J R: I have to comment on 70ft. Bases.Most leagues have adapted the rules ... »southernson: And that's what I like about this board.... Wood & DMON, You do ... »the wood: Southernson: Being paranoid doesn't mean that 'they aren't coming ... »southernson: Wood, You made me laugh out loud in the office, I'm wiping the tears ... »the wood: Good! IMO, laughter is the best medicine most of the time and if we ... »E4/E6: Southernson, if you want something that keeps you laughing, you ... »the wood: E4/E6: Right Church, wrong pew! I try not to distract you because I ... »E4/E6: Woody surely you jest, you've seen these concrete shoes at work ... »SS13: I agree with most of the rules except the pitch count. I pitch and ... »Allan55: I have heard a lot of talk regarding the 1-1 and 0-0 counts. Our ... »Jawood: The debate will continue to go on over the the 1-1 count. At some ... »Webbie25: After playing AAA from 2006-2011 when the HR limit was 3 and then an ... »Enviro-Vac: Our team enjoy the Rock ball as it stays consistent, it flies just as ... »softball4b: Allan55 - Use the Trump ball instead of the Rock. I played with the ... »Tim Millette: Mike.... Here i thought i had a conversion.....You had me with that ... »Webbie25: Mike-my point was we had enough power to get the three later in the ... »GI: Mark (Webbie) I could not agree with you more than your statement ... »swing for the fences : Allen 55, if it is a Quote "Hitters Game"... Then stop taking pitches ... »Allan55: softball4b - The Trump ball is much better than it was three years ... »Tim Millette: With a one and one count the pitchers have a better chance of not ... »stick8: Jawood, I'm not so certain starting off with a 1-1 count makes the ... »Jawood: Shorter may not be the best word to use, but more playing action in ... »Ceres: Jawood, If a pitcher throws fewer pitches in a game with a time ... |
105 | Dec. 12, 2012 | 3847 |
Ratings» Hannion: You need to change the way you allow teams going up or down a ... |
0 | Dec. 5, 2012 | 466 |
pitching screens» BudLeftField: the villages,fl- screens to protect pitchers are optional. All ...»17Black: Screen is in play^^^^^??? If ball hits frame and goes foul, foul ... »BudLeftField: 17 Black-If ball hits frame and goes foul before passing first or ... »?: Does anybody know why it is that in all forms of Baseball an ... »4Four4: YES. Softballs - Hardheads - Rubberarms. No screens please! #4 »neck10: sreens are fine took a bad one in fall ball a couple weeks ago should ... »Gary19: "leauge ball its just like batting practice anyway" Oh please. ... »Omar Khayyam: When I pitch batting practice (which I do every week) I consider it a ... »neck10: gary I play leauge in traverse city michigan its layed back we have ... »garyheifner: While in Florida last week played in a local senior pick up league in ... »curty: we use a screen in our local league and any ball that hits any part ... »Gary19: Sad to say, I might agree to the screen IF YOU ARE USING THE SPECIAL ... »HJ: G-19 (thanks for tip about Pinnacle-played yesterday) Back to the ... »Gary19: HJ, you're welcome. As far as the bats, while I realize USSSA bats ... »Omar Khayyam: HJ, are you saying that all the hundreds of senior pitchers that have ... »HJ: Omar, I do not have the experience in SB to speak from a historical ... »HJ: I base my previous 2 posts on the ... »Gary19: HJ, how many softball games has that professor played? »garyheifner: Did any of you pitchers experience this? I pitched about half ... »Omar Khayyam: HJ, I think it is not only the difference (as noted by the professor) ... »HJ: G-19- snide remarks are not necessary or helpful when people are ... »Pricer: Instead of finding more ways to protect ourselves and spending more ... »?: Pricer At what point in time would that be? »Omar Khayyam: HJ, I still think it is primarily the bats. 1. Everyone, including ... »HJ: OK- As usual everything you say is true and on point. But everything ... »?: Omar Khayyam So if you use an aluminum bat, you can't hit a bal ... »Gary19: Absolutely nothing snide about it at all. Studies in this case tell ... »0: So Gary19 With all your knowledge, experience and desire to return ... »HJ: I have no problem with a person honestly saying they would prefer ... »Gary19: Returning to yesterday's game might not be such a bad thing if it ... »Omar Khayyam: HJ, I agree that there is little difference between composite bats, ... »0: Gary19 YOU DON'T KNOW? YOU DON'T KNOW? So there is somethin ... »curveball: Omar, the DeMarini bats of years past cost us more than the ... »Gary19: 0, All of your lame sarcasm aside, when did I ever say I do? I ... »Omar Khayyam: Curveball, you're probably right. I never had the funds to think ... »curveball: Perhaps because Ray (DeMarini) was from Portland, the Pacific NW was ... »mad dog: first i want to kwon where in any softball assoc are you allowed to ... »HJ: I only entered this thread because I wanted to disabuse the idea that ... »Gary19: pup, you look dumber with each lame attempt to look witty. You are ... »CAPT D5: Experience showed me the senior bat produces about 10% farther ... »Gary19: CAPT, I respectfully disagree. It is all about the insecurity of old ... »CAPT D5: Gary, Respectful disagreement is good, we need to encourage and ... »HJ: G-19, excuse my ignorance but where did you come up with the 60 foot ... »Gary19: No "rule". It is roughly the distance I am from home plate after I ... »Qnine: In senior league in Cleveland Or you can said Maple Hts we use a ... »CAPT D5: So Gary, you are saying all players who use senior bats have fragile ... »Gary19: Certainly not all, just the ones who would refuse to play without ... »HJ: If the senior league you play in is competitive the guys will use ... »Gary19: Sure, but they will still be more rasonable for the oldest, slowest ... »HJ: Gary, you are smarter than that. The real problem is we have no ... »Omar Khayyam: HJ, you are correct that I think all composite bats with their ... »garyheifner: Omar I will slightly disagree with something you said above. I ... »swing for the fences : I think if everyone policed their own team/players, and kept the ... »Omar Khayyam: garyheifner, I remember teams also where they assumed the pitcher ... »Paul P: As for the pitching screens, I've played with them once in a tourney ... »Webbie25: HJ-you bring up some of the things I have said a few times on the ... »#19: The thought of placing a screen on the playing field is ludicrous ... ... »Dave m: All I know is our rec league went to a screen this past season. After ... »Webbie25: Dave m-what tournament level do you play and how old are you? Just ... »Tim Millette: Swing, it's interesting ready your last post. The question ... »swing for the fences : I hit nobody this year! Let's say I did. Intent wasn't there and ... »Tim Millette: I could have sworn I heard you hit one or two pitchers in SF this ... »swing for the fences : You heard wrong,,, I didn't hit anyone last year. Nice try on ... »Dave m: Webbie, I play AAA and am 59. One item I did not mention is we play ... »#19: Dave m ... Sounds like you need to find another past-time ... Board ... »Webbie25: Night games are a problem for seniors-we just can't see as well as we ... »neck10: screens are fine just make it foul ball if you hit it hit it on third ... »neck10: I bet sombody will come up with old style lights to get rid of the ... »Tate22: My experience with screens is they are a distant 2nd place to ... »Webbie25: Don-welcome back. Haven't seen you on for a while. Was a pleasure ... »HJ: If a league permits full protective gear for pitcher, and the pitcher ... »stick8: Tate22 you bring up an excellent point about pitching screens. There ... »JDub: GET RID OF SENIOR BATS AND NO NEED FOR SCREENS OR HOCKEY GEAR ! ! ... »stick8: You wouldn't get an argument from me on that JDub!! »garyheifner: JDUB If they banned all bats and went to broom sticks, I would ... »0: garyheifner You are correct. Wearing protective gear reall ... »Webbie25: JDub-the problem would still exist with pitchers with lesser bats ... »JDub: W25, Although I'm only 50+, I've been Pitching long enough, and ... »Webbie25: JDub-I've posted on here that I felt a 'measured step back' would not ... »JDub: LOL, I still have a Blue Mizuno Rage - NIW (New In Wrapper) (LMAO) ! ... »southernson: ASA, USSSA, Senior Bats..... They all come quick up the middle ... »canIjack: Don't like the screen idea at all. Personally, JMO, It will always ... »Pricer: If everyone feels the bats don't make that big of a difference. Then ... »Webbie25: JDub-I broke my orange crush 2 years ago in an SSUSA tournament. I ... »Tim Millette: Swing..... Let's see.... Where to start with your pitcher hit ... »swing for the fences : Timothy, your Bitch (AKA MR ON Base percentage) gave you the wrong ... |
85 | Dec. 1, 2012 | 2150 |
PRIORITY: SSUSA RULES COMMITTEE 2012 • Meeting Minutes» SSUSA Staff: The following link redirects to the Official Minutes of the 2012 ...»SSUSA Staff: SYNOPSIS OF RATIONALE BEHIND SELECTED RULES COMMITTEE DECISIONS • ... |
1 | Nov. 30, 2012 | 2468 |
Step across the aisleuit the game and go fishin'» dMON: This post will certainly not change anyone's mind about what you ...»taits: Played that as a kid up until Sr 'ball' & church league where it was ... »Mario: I played in an unlimited arc leauge my 1st year in softball, 1980 I ... »Brock: In Colorado we have a Saturday Senior Travel League that's been in ... »Webbie25: dMon-I was introduced to slow pitch in the late 60's and 70's and ... »dMON: To SSUSA: I put this out here for thought, but also for discussion. ... »JDub: GET RID OF SENIOR BATS AND NO NEED FOR UNLIMITED ARC, SCREENS, OR ... »dMON: I agree Dub, but the bats aren't going away...I've flogged this ... »Tim Millette: Of coarse the bats are not going away... Nor will the manority of ... »taits: Tim, As it is now it give the advantage to the offensive game. < ... »Donny C: I agree the live bats will not go away. The pitcher needs to be able ... »JDub: Roger that, Very Few like to Hit Unlimited Arc! The Problem is we ... »taits: I agree with most like the 10' arc, but all your doing is serving up ... »Webbie25: taits-you can't eliminate on the low-that opens it up to fast pitch. »cyborg45: First year in senior ball at age 67. Playing down in 60 major plus. I ... |
14 | Nov. 30, 2012 | 722 |
Update from USSSA National Convention» stick8: Just hung up with my UIC who's at the USSSA National Convention. In ...»Robo2: No problem with having a screen. I do question why pitchers must ... »southernson: Our pitchers will NOT be wearing the hockey goalie outfit, for ... »Gary19: Sad, sad, sad what the sport is sinking to. Or more accurately ... »wagon487: I'm not buying it....i'm simple like that....seems like over kill! »swing for the fences : I have zero problem with all the above.. I am sure there are some ... »TOP DOG: The problem I have with this is that if the ball hits the screen then ... »400: WOW this is like having soccer moms invade the sport of baseball. »number27: I 've played with screen before, no issues, batted ball in screen ... »Gary19: Protection my butt! Wanna protect the oldest, slowest group still ... »miken44: i agree with the use of a screen but there should not be a dead ball ... »swing for the fences : I say I'm fine with strike or dead ball out... »DCPete: Basically, makes no sense at all. If the pitcher stays behind the ... »crusher: I support a screen. here are the rules.... batted ball hits ... »Gary19: crusher, uhhhhhhhh, okay. Not sure your point to the last line, ... »swing for the fences : I wonder if North Cal SS will be adopting these rules? »Omar Khayyam: Thanks for the news, Stick. I predicted a couple of years ago that ... »swing for the fences : USSSA seems to be sick of the bat shaving! So I can see why they went ... »swing for the fences : Oops, meant to ask if North Cal SS and SSUSA will be adopting these ... »Tim Millette: So for those that think UTRIP is the trend setter for senior ... »Rube: Rather then go through all of that, and its obvious that nothing can ... »Webbie25: How big is the screen? We played Senior Olympics with a 7 foot wide ... »Paco13: My question is. How many Senior Utrip tourneys have you played on the ... »Gary19: Rube, if that was done then guys in their 50s and 60s would not be ... »Jawood: USSSA has senior softball? »Rube: :-) Yeah I know that Gary, but sure would make the game more ... »#19: Crusher ... If you've been a pitcher for such a long time, and have ... »Robo2: It needs to be treated as a foul ball or batters will continue to hit ... »Gary19: Rube, I completely agree, but I think we are out-numbered by the guys ... »crusher: #19 - I did not bring this up. I am not against having a screen ... »Gary19: crusher, no one likes to see someone get hit. Now, one way to help ... »#19: Crusher ... I have hit pitchers, too, but never on purpose ... If a ... »Gary19: #19, you make waaaaaaay too much sense. But keep in mind the game ... »crusher: #19 - Every pitcher I hit(again never on purpose) was with an ... »Robo2: Our team uses a pitcher screen in BP during the off season. So I do ... »Omar Khayyam: crusher, I agree that pitchers might have better than average ... »boston: Played with a pitching screen during senior olympics. The pitcher ... »DCPete: This is another argument for a return to the unlimited arc. The ... »cal50: Pete....I agree with you. It would also put more defense back in the ... »bernie: This is just another instance of the game passing the heirarchy of ... »Gary19: Pete, I have nothing aqainst unlimited arc. But if you are only ... »stick8: Interesting and informative responses! The jist I get it most of you ... »crusher: stick8 - a good chance more senior teams would play in USSSA , ... »southernson: Trust me, senior bats or no senior bats, it gets there in a hurry, ... »Gary19: The same whining old guys if the special bats were taken away. »tattooball: I was in the manufactures meeting when they announced this. Some of ... »LP: we dont play u-trip dought if we ever will. if everyone wants a ... »Omar Khayyam: Ah, southernson, the unlimited arc. What a year that was (and it only ... »Gary19: Omar, officially the ASA had unlimited arc at the national level in ... »Omar Khayyam: Gary19, I think you're right. I dimly remember that ASA allowed ... »Gary19: You could often tell if the ump was a former, or perhaps even ... »bkb555: we dont play Utrip senior softball (yet) but I think the net rule ... »Qnine: I play in a senior league with an net and if the ball hit the net it ... »Gary19: Q, thanks for the heads-up! lol Any idea how that will effect ... »Qnine: ASA bat standard move up to 100mph standard and with 300comp. and ... »Gary19: That's okay. There should still be more defense than with the senior ... »Qnine: All ASA bat banned back in 2004 are still ban . But the standard was ... »Gary19: I am sure these new standard bats will be better than the previous ... »Qnine: Where in Brecksville alway looking for better place to work out still ... »Gary19: It is the old Fielder's Choice on Mill Road. Off of Brecksville ... »Mango: If the screen is to protect the pitcher it is not logical that he can ... »Mango: If the screen is to protect the pitcher it is not logical that he can ... »Gary19: Mango, it is called wanting to have the cake and eating it too. »cutty: The Middle of the field is like any other part of the field. If you ... »5ToolsinOhio: 2nd year playin senior ball and the play in games are a joke, strap a ... »cal50: I enjoy playing the 5 games. If there were not that guarantee, I ... »Gary19: The "seeding" games are little more than expensive exhibitions. »stick8: As I was informed on friday night USSSA Senior rules as outlined ... »jsheeran: Stick and others, you might know the answers to or have an opinion on ... »ju25: Happy Thanksgiving Stick, Did your UIC mention anything about the ... »jsheeran: ju25 - yes agree to playing with non-altered USSSA bats.....I forgot ... »Olden Slow: After Mondays league game, several of us went for coffee and ... »BruceinGa: This past fall our league went to the screen. I should say here that ... »Gary19: "and we needed to change something" Bruce, was any thought given ... »stick8: Jeff to answer your questions: ==Insurance reasons are why USSSA ... »stick8: Jimmy, as I understand it the new bat standard will be enforced in ... »stick8: Update for rules as of today (Thanksgiving): --pitching screen? ... »jsheeran: Stick, thanks for the answers and feedback. No mandatory ... »BruceinGa: Gary, no, we didn't discuss changing bats. We have 4 other divisions ... »Gary19: Not sure I knew it, but it is what I suspected. Just reinforces ... »17Black: My gripe with USSSA was always the pitching rules, and I played and ... »stick8: Jeff I share your concern with a pitching screen. Some pitchers do ... »stick8: 17black as a USSSA umpire I have a way that I've worked on for years ... »Webbie25: stick-I've been playing slowpitch for 44 seasons now. I saw pitchers ... »swing for the fences : Webbie, I don't want to see screens either! I would like to have one ... »Omar Khayyam: Webbie, you play at a high level, so you might not have observed that ... »Webbie25: Omar-After playing AAA for 6 years, I do know a lot of pitchers have ... »slyone25: I AM ALL FOR HAVING A SCREEN FOR THE PITCHER'S, IF IT HIT'S THE ... »Omar Khayyam: slyone25, that's how my league deals with a screen to some extent. If ... »Webbie25: Don't underestimate a lot of the AAA pitchers-we played against a lot ... »Omar Khayyam: Webbie25, I wasn't saying that Major Plus pitchers are the only good ... »Webbie25: Sarcasm?? I love it. It's just I can't get it past the screen anymore ... »Pricer: Don't like it and will not play with it! »68Levi: Won't play with the screens. Our pitcher wouldn't eaither. We ... |
93 | Nov. 25, 2012 | 2786 |
OpenGate» southernson: So there is a broken gate on the team's dugout and it is tough to ...»Gary19: I would think, if this is brought to the umpire's attention prior to ... »stick8: USSSA rule is runners advance two bases from the time of the throw, ... »wagon487: to bad this isn't a USSSA chat room:) »stick8: I hear ya wagon. I'm reasonably certain the rule for this is pretty ... »southernson: The umpire in charge ruled that the ball was dead once it entered the ... »Gary19: Why doesn't the TD just get the gate fixed? How hard can that be? I ... »southernson: Much harder than it appears, it's been broke for years. »Gary19: Perhaps, but then replace it. That is not hard at all. Such a ... »tater9: Can't do anything without a work order.....must of got lost :) »Gary19: Apparently. :) |
10 | Nov. 16, 2012 | 591 |
QUESTION FOR UMPIRES» Gideon60: A ball is batted just out of play,The first basemen catches the ball ...»crusher: The answer is obivous "it is strike 1" because it was the 1st ... »southernson: Why did you assume a ground ball? Might have been a line drive.. »birdie: How about a fly ball that is caught in bounds I would think the ... »Gideon60: Sorry fellas the ball is a flyball and it is out of play but the ... »crusher: out »crusher: Gideon60 - by putting in what happened you really ruined a good ... »Gary19: Wow, what a cluster F....:( crusher, where did you get a ground ... »TCR84: Definately an out. Think if there was a fence, the first baseman can ... »steve134: SSUSA needs good umpires. You can umpire, keep score, verify ... »stick8: As long as both feet are in play I have an out. An analogy would be ... »5ToolsinOhio: I have re-read this thread trying to find what i am missing, i think ... »Olden Slow: steve134..Don't know the situation you encountered. But I have never ... »steve134: Olden Slow--I didn't have any problems with the players. When they ... »Olden Slow: steve..Thanks for the info and I agree...The Ump's should at least ... |
14 | Nov. 12, 2012 | 760 |
SSUSA ID CARD question» 17Black: I am Just asking before rosters are sent in for a team I ...»CRUSADERVB: I MAILED MY MONEY IN ON AUGUST 8TH, NO CARD YET. HOPE I GET MINE B4 ... »curveball: When you register in Phoenix, SSUSA will know that you have applied ... »DoubleL10: Ron, It's not like Dave Dowell, et. al., don't know you! As long as ... »turn2: Good luck to you guys in Phoenix. Larry, who are you playing with in ... »DoubleL10: Donnie, I'm still playing with Omen. I'm sure GSF will be a ... »17Black: So what is the answer on the card? If a guys card expires ... »CRUSADERVB: LARRY, GSF IS OFFICIALLY IN THE WIND. THE NAME IS DEAD AND BURIED. ... »titanhd: 17 Black. Tournanment date is Nov 2012.Card expires Dec.2012. You ... »Gary19: titan, I think his "logic" is that this is technically a 2013 ... »DoubleL10: Ron, Looking forward to it! We played the Full Circle guys in Las ... »17Black: titanhd: thanks I understand the logic. Card "looks good" based ... »Gary19: Hey, NE Ohioans have to stick together! »the wood: Double L: Larry, only 4 of the guys you saw in LV are moving up ... »CRUSADERVB: LARRY, BEING BACK WITH WOODY, BILLY AND JERRY.....I'LL BE IN THE ... »Candy: ID cards expire after the Worlds in that year you ID expired after ... »Webbie25: Ron-I want to wish you and all the other guys the best of luck this ... »Duke: 17Black, This is a non issue, and I have had this happen on previous ... »stick8: With an election coming up in 2 weeks does anyone else find it odd ... »Gary19: Not you at all.... »Webbie25: Stick8-I had that discussion with a good friend-Democrat-and after ... »softball4b: How about this...you can't get on a plane without a valid ID, but you ... »Gary19: I suppose the difference is I can do a lot more damage on a plane ... »crump22: stick8,as a kid growing up in Pensacola ,Fl.,My Mother had ID and she ... »BobLaser: They were comparing i.d requirements for senior softball and voting. ... »stick8: What's up C? Just for the record I'm not a member of any political ... »neck10: stick have you seen bobby stu havent talked with him since his ... »HJ: No one in their right mind would not accept an ID which had an expiry ... »stick8: Webbie with all the social media we have access to there is nearly an ... »stick8: Neck I talked with Stewie on Tuesday. He's healing up and doing ok. ... »Webbie25: Hi Stick8-we came in second in 60 M+ to Hollis, how about you?? I ... »stick8: Webbie we took 4th. Disappointing because we won every previous ... »stick8: Webbie we took 4th. Disappointing because we won every previous ... »neck10: great bobbys a great guy will be good to see him healthy and back on ... »jsheeran: Hey Stick, must be nice to win all your tournaments and not need to ... »stick8: Jeff we worry about getting a year older!! lol »stick8: Your right neck. When Stewie is on his game he's one of the best. ... »neck10: its still lonely at the top but is the best place to play as far as ... »stick8: Very true Neck. Now we have to work on getting more teams. I'd like ... |
38 | Oct. 31, 2012 | 1443 |
70' bases at Las Vegas» gbakian: Why were we not using 60' bases at Shadow Rock (65 Major) in Las ...»SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA official specification is 65', not 60' as you incorrectly ... »Fabe: 70 ft bases did affect games, but I thought it was a positive one for ... »Gary19: Let's hope they never choose a Super Bowl site that insists on using ... »Webbie25: Again I want to put in that I believe the 70 foot bases are an ... »curveball: Webbie, maybe not true in 65 and 70. From what I gather, my 65 team ... »taits: NSA has been using 70 foot base lines nation wide for awhile, ASA is ... »Jawood: If we are going to continue to use the hot bats and balls (and we ... »taits: Jawood, Maybe too, they should go to 80 feet paths for the M & M+. ... »Al33: For what it's worth. At Shadow Rock there were pegs in the ground for ... »TexasTransplant: I don't really have any issue with 70' bases. That being said, you ... »Gary19: Transplant, you make a very valid point EXCEPT the city/county got ... »stattad: Long live 70' bases! »Webbie25: Gary19, I think you haven't played a tournament since they went from ... »garyheifner: In full support of keeping the 70 footers. Really brings the double ... »Gary19: Mark, your "wit" get dumber by the day. Change can be okay, but ... »Webbie25: Hehe-Gary19,you're just ticked off because I made that observation ... »cpope: Been a while since I have been on this site, its good to see some ... »Gary19: So would banning bats no one else is allowed to use. There is a ... »mad dog: plus most all assoc's will be at 70' next year,so lets have the 70' ... »Gary19: Yes it is. My point was playing the Super Bowl on a CFL field after ... »Fabe: We didnt fall for anything, just played by the rules presented! We ... |
21 | Oct. 29, 2012 | 1004 |
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