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July 20, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

Mario, I guess I am not just looking at the plus world winner.

Almost all of the major teams that get bumped to Plus are not world winners...the list is endless.

I also am not just looking at the 50 age group...plus ball is not healthy and something needs to be tried.

Mango..maybe you need to defeat my posts..I never mentioned the Warriors being scared.

Once you recognize and admit the error of your folly in regards to the Plus programs being healthy....oh...I forgot you just hinted you agree with me that something must be tried in the Plus divisions....I guess our disagreement is in what should be tried...I say use what helps every other division and your advocating to re event the wheel with some handicap system.
July 20, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

Mango..since the Warriors have such a good showing in Plus and were reclassed down to Major..do you think every other Plus team with an inferior on field record as the Warriors should automatically be immediately reclassed down when they ask..ie...should the Warriors on field record be the standard of being reclassed?
I have not looked into their record but it looks like you did some good research.
July 20, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

So Mango..I guess your saying you don't think the Warriors record warranted them getting dropped to Major???
July 19, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

Lee, I was not saying it was anyone fault as far as paperwork goes but...I would think SSUSA would be as proactive with its re ranking DOWN as it is with its re rank UP.

I think we knew we could compete as a young 55plus team so we didn't try to get reclassed after our two dismal showing at 50 Plus worlds.

Then again...I am starting to believe SSUSA has very little interested in doing anything with Plus ball...it's looking like they are in the...as long as it doesn't hurt Major ball who cares mode.

On that subject...I would have though SSUSA being proactive would obviously have reclassed us down after going 0-4 in our two Plus worlds bracket play..everyone knows the seeding games mean nothing..heck...most of the time everyone plays thier whole roster and saves players legs by playing a four man outfield during those games.
July 18, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

I agree the sun has been an issue a few times but it has more to do with that field being the biggest field at the complex. As far as the mileage thing goes...it is all computer generated and is based on your teammates residence.

Most of our guys are from one area..I think many of your guys live 40+ miles apart...that might have something to do with the schedule times
July 18, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

I don't really want to push for anything in senior ball.. In. NorCal we are blessed with ncssa along with some of your SSUSA events.

If there comes a day we believe we have been taken advantage of by our SSUSA rankings I will be happy to just play ncssa...

Why I mentioned plus dominant teams having sway is...it's the only explaination I can come up with the figure out why you guys have not tried to implement in Plus what is working well in every other division.

July 18, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

Staff...all I was pointing out is...

if SSUSA treated the Plus division like every other division (champion and dominant teams get player restrictions if they want to return to Plus ball OR are allowed to stay together and play the next youngest Major division) you just might be able to grow the program.

Here you have a team in the Warriors that came in second in Reno and yet they are reclassed..maybe...as an example...of summersville players were held to the same standard as the other divisions you could grow the Plus level.

what I meant by inner circle was...senior summit stuff????? Have there been any senior summit advisors associated with multi world winning Plus champions?

July 17, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

I believe the Warriors are just the latest example of what happens when you don't make the Plus champions follow the same rules that every other division is held to in a process of turning over the top teams.

If the last five 50 Plus champions were held to one of these two choices (return with no more then Six Plus champions till you reach the next age group on your roster or move to the next youngest Major program) the Warriors very well would still be trying to play Plus ball.

Turning over the top works well in every other level..I still cannot understand why SSUSA doesn't try it for five year in Plus ball?

Then again...I don't know all the Plus sponsors so maybe...a few of them are part of the inner circle.
July 15, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA how can we get reclassed? MTC 50 2014 major Plus

I heard tonight that the Warriors 2014 team was reclassed down to 50 major and I was wondering how our MTC 50 Plus team that didn't win a game in two consecutive years of major plus Double elim brackets at Plus worlds can get reclassed to 50 majors also.
The Warriors faired better then us at last years world and placed higher then we ever did at 50 Plus World and rock and roll Reno.
How do we get reclassed down? Who does our 2014 MTac Plus team contact?
July 6, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Manteca Hall of Fame Tourney

Come on Richie...if it wasn't for mikes double play and joe always wanting to be home team you guys would have won the hall of fame three years ago, and I think you still have my watch from two years ago...

So why be so upset with Manteca?

It cannot be because short people must be accompanied by an adult to use the cages is it?

It's sad to hear the Warriors are not going to Manteca...that's one less top team
July 2, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Which Sports Do More Americans Participate In?

I walked away from the Concord ca league I had played in for 25 years for one reason...shaved/altered bats...

No need to go out and play against some inferior player hitting the ball harder and farther then you because she spent $75 to get the bat doctored.

And one more thing...Ray didn't invent the bat speed concept...that started before Ray (1993 double wall) with thinner walled aluminum bat "trampoline" technogy...

What used to create power was....mass plus speed equaled power...that changed to mass being less important with bat flex/trampoline thin walled bats...
June 22, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Webbie I will take your points one by one

1) Our team moving to 55 for SSUSA...

*!No we didn't leave two players behind...as a matter of fact...one of them was the most vocal for us to go 55..they both can play around 13 tourneys with us.

*yes we added quality people that are good players.

2) bubble boy....please give examples of what your assumptions are of what my bubble looks like....that way we can see if your theory is true..as it reads now...it's just an open attack with no points...PLEASE LIST THEM FOR ME!

3) taking a 50 Plus team and moving to 55 major...

Webbie....I think this must be one of your senior moments..our team never thought about moving down to 55 major ball...PLEASE LIST AN EXAMPLE OF US WANTING TO DROP TO 55 major?

4) part of this kinda makes sense...the rest I don't understand...maybe you can clarify for me.
My belief on bumping is...it helps the health of every division it's used in and I think it should be added to the Plus program. My answer is..tell the bumped Plus teams they can stay together (more then 6 returning players) and start playing the next youngest Major division or..like all the other divisions, they can return to the division they were bumped from with 6 or less Plus players.



5) I don't look at team names...I look at players names...as an example of this..there are players walking around NorCal proudly displaying 23-30 rings...almost all of them won at the Plus level/I could care less what the name of their teams was...it's the fact they are allowed to dominate as such a rate is what I consider a problem with Plus ball.

6)!mango winning hands down...PLEASE LIST THE POINTS HE WON.

So there you go Webbie...you threw out some arguements...if you want to try to validate them with facts or at least throw out your assumptions I will reply.

In closing...what I find amazing in all this is...my assumption....that the guys so upset with my idea on bumping plus teams is attacked by the exact people that put so much value into a meaningless softball ring...that speaks volumes
June 21, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Mango,

Taking your points one at a time

1) 30% different...our team had two players that turn 55 next year..THEY VOLUNTEERED to sit out three tourneys this year so we could play 55 events. We also had another player quit/jump to the 55 varsity.. That's how we added three players..

2) fantastic living in my world...I would have to agree with that...I can only hope your life is going as good as mine..I feel blessed every day

3) lateral move by taking a bumped 55 Plus team into the 50 major until the next age group...in this instance it would be when the bumped team yes old enough to play in the 60 Plus division.
Your "kinda" right on that BUT...you fail to give recognition to the fact that age depletes abilities, especially after 55 for most players..with that said...
Using our team as an example..let's say next year our team was bumped under the senerio I mentioned...
Our average age this year is somewhere around 57 years old..next year we would average 58, the following year 59..I hope you can comprehend what Father Time would do to us and understand..very quickly/possible the very next season a 55 Plus champion team would not be a dominate 50 major team.

4) I will bet a $10,000 to your $1,000 that you will never find a written statement from me saying we never could win in 55 Plus ball....are you up for that bet mango?

now...if your talking about our 50 Plus team of the past...I was a firm believer
our team would have to play at an unbelievably high level while a dynasty type
teams would have to pay poorly for us to win at the 50 Plus world level...I think our record supports that belief.

5) on your teams getting bumped and staying together and competing goes...keep looking...I doubt very much a team exists...which...proves my point that SSUSA disbands teams all the time in an attempt to keep all other divisions healthy..

In closing...mango...I enjoy your attempt to take me on on these issues...it makes me have to support my views..while at the same time it makes you have to support your assumptions....I am sorry arguments like these have shown you and you assumptions to be...wanting...:-)
June 21, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

I don't understand any of the talk on our team...

We never won an event at 50 major and were bumped, I would guess, because of runs scored...which didn't take into account how many runs we gave up because of of questionable defense. We were an older 50 team when we were bumped.

We played 50 Plus and never wrote or asked to be reclassed down even while winning maybe one game in the double slim bracket at worlds.

This year we won 55 Reno starting a team with 30% different defensive players...we are a young 55 team this season. Youth helps a lot...

Again....If Reno was instead the World, I would still be saying the Plus champion should only be allowed to come back with six champion players OR..if the chose, they could come back with more players but they would be required to play the next youngest Major program...


A 55 plus team, rightly, carries the same ranking as a 50 major team..with that, a 55 Champion returning to play 50 Major the next season would also be a YEAR OLDER..
June 20, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Now let's get some facts straight...

1) you never read me complain about playing plus..our team was moved up and stuck together..so let's forget your imagined fact of our softball teams history.

2) ssusa breaks up teams for the good of individual programs all the time...we know I was referring to bumping them to the next division and only allowing them to return with three player if they want to stay in the same division..

That rule breaks up the team if they decide to stay down/sorry if you could not comprehend that.

For plus ball...AGAIN...but a little slower for those of you challenged;-) I would treat the Plus bumps just like every other division..I would require Plus bumped teams to play the next season against the next lowest major age group if the chose to return with more then six players.

You see...unlike some, I would welcome a new rule to try to see if Plus ball could grow in numbers from the pitiful state most plus divisions are in...

Also...unlike many...I see nothing special in small groups of players dominating multiple years in Plus...there is a reason you don't hear about players collecting tons of rings winning the AA, AAA or Major divisions..they are not allowed to...and it's my belief that's why those divisions are healthier then Plus.
June 19, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Sorry to let you two in on a little secret (ok, I really am NOT sorry) but...
SSUSA BREAKS UP TEAMS ALL THE TIME for th good of SSUSA programs...

It's called...getting bumped...and once again...

I think SSUSA should bump major plus team just like they do AA, AAA, Major teams...

I'd allow Plus bumps to come back with no more then 6 bumped players or...if they want to stay intact they can compete in the next youngest Major program..being competitors they should have no problem wanting to face the younger competition...unless of coarse...they are scared;-)
June 17, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: courtesy runner

On our MTC Jayvee team we only have one CR.... Everyone else is just a pinch runner;-)
June 17, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Really....someone complaining about a not playing straight up in a back yard tourney???

In NorCal ncssa many times team give 3, 5, 7 runs and no one complains about it...after all...does it really matter who wins as long as you get to play a bunch of games....

I MEAN REALLY.....it's not like anyone is playing against a bunch of guys on PEDs;-)
May 30, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foot placement in batter's box before pitch

Reno was a disaster when it came to the batters box.

We played with three differnt sets of rules.

One ump said stay in the box

One ump said you can step out away from home plate but not in front of the box

One ump actually said...I will only call you out if you run out of the box, not if your natural stride takes you out of the box....his reason for this was we were playing against a team and a 6'5" players said he could swing in the box because it was to small for him..the ump refered to this player as one of the best in the game.

My view is..enforce the d#mn rule..the players will adjust and an enforced box makes it harder for individuals to drive a ball back up the middle (at the pitcher) and takes away just a little of the hitters advantage.
May 25, 2015
Tim Millette
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Congrat' MTC JV Rock and Reno Champs!

Nope ...Kurts group is still the Varsity.

We have a ways to go to match what they accomplished in the 55 Plus Division...

Besides...I think we have won maybe two out of five games against them this year, so they still have the upper hand.

As for this weekend...there were four teams there and all teams were pretty evenly matched...we were just the ones that got the breaks and won last weekend...everyone was a pleasure to play against. Even when we were losing.

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