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Mark Weber

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July 1, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: knee replacement

Audie-I had the full replacement-it was not the best experience of my life-to say the least, but after being in so much pain I could hardly play the last 2 years before I did it, I say go for it, work hard to get back, and enjoy being pain free after it is done. I have gotten back to where I am competitive again, and you will too. Best of luck! See you in Vegas.
June 30, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Remember When...........

Wow-great thread. I was raised in southern Michigan also-Wyandotte until I was 11, then Ann Arbor. My summers were spent in the parks playing one game after another from sun up to sun down-be home when the street lights go on! I didn't eat lunch sometimes either. My bat had 3 nails in it and the ball was covered with electrical tape. My glove was so old it had been restrung with wire.But we played. Pitchers hand was out, and being a left handed hitter, I had to hit to left field because they would not change every time I hit. Invisible runners were everywhere. And we played a modified overhand pitch-not really slowpitch but not as fast as we could throw it. That's where I learned to love the game and that you could play it anywhere-anytime. Now it is all organized-you have to have expensive equipment to play or they 'can't' do anything. Kids have not learned to improvise to play. And they have not learned the love of the game-they play because their parents want them to.
You are also right about the 'cat is out of the bag.' There is no going back to what is was-when a 275 fence was big enough because the equipment had not been enhanced. A .650 average was great-over that was extraordinary. When I started slowpitch in 1969-the best teams consistently scored in double figures-we felt we would be competitive with anyone in the country averaging about 15 runs a game, and we were. The sweet spot was a small spot on the bat, not half the barrel.
I have wondered if 'retro' leagues would go-wood or basic metal bats, a real 'soft'ball, and 275 fences. A league where a .700 hitter might be leading the league, and .500 was an acceptable average. You could go back to 60 or 65 foot bases because you didn't have to play infield in the outfield for safety. A 'smaller' game would be easier on seniors, too. But, sadly, the 'cat is out of the bag.' I doubt we could ever get it back in.
June 23, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Right, swing-and therein lies the dilemma-if you bump a team they break up and won't enter the Plus division. If you don't, there are not enough teams. I still think finishing second or third does not constitute a dynasty. And I think teams would holler loud and long, and rightfully so, if they finished third in Worlds, were declared a dynasty, and broken up for the 'good' of the game. And that puts us back to square one in this debate.

For those of you who do decide not to play up to Plus and disband, I would like to point to Arizona Rogue 60 M+ as an example. These men are my friends, also. They got bumped last year to M+. Despite losing their leadoff man, very fast left fielder and coach, their top tough pitcher, and a couple other guys, they have chosen to play tourneys and try to build a winning team. They are competitive, and fight hard. They have beaten everyone in the west so far at least once, I think, and continue to fight. If teams that get bumped and break up would hang in there and give it a go like Rogue has-I think you would see some very good success stories.

And the debate goes on..........
June 23, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Hi Swing. Thanks for setting me straight on that. It did seem like that was what he wanted to do. The point I tried to make, I guess, was that he did move up in age, strengthened, and won. That is the way to do it at Plus.I don't believe in breaking up a team either, but you HAVE to move teams up or they will form their own dynasties at lower levels. And TEAMS make the decision to break up, not SSUSA.
Swing, did you see the list of winners Dave put out in January or February? There are no real dynasty teams at M+. I don't think winning 1 or 2 years constitutes a dynasty. It seems getting older takes care of that as younger teams come into the age bracket, and it seems to accelerate as you get older.
MOST RECENT FIVE YEARS SSUSA WORLD CHAMPIONS

50-MAJOR PLUS
2014 - DLB (WI)
2013 - Nazzareno Electric (CA)
2012 - NW Legends (WA)
2011 - Line Drive/Salsa Bombers (MI)
2010 - Seacrest Mavericks (CA)

55-MAJOR PLUS
2014 - Summy's Nighthawks (CA)
2013 - MTC Softball 55 (CA)
2012 - MTC Softball 55 (CA)
2011 - Hendricks Sports Management (TX)
2010 - OLR Nighthawks (CA)

60-MAJOR PLUS
2014 - Superior Senior Softball (VA)
2013 - Hollis Appraisals (FL)
2012 - Hollis Appraisals (FL)
2011 - MTC Softball 60 (CA)
2010 - GSF (A)

65-MAJOR PLUS
2014 - Full Circle (AZ)
2013 - Hamel/Superior Softball (VA)
2012 - Hamel/Turn Two (VA)
2011 - Omen 65 (CA)
2010 - Florida Legends/Human Kinetics

I just don't see dynasties here-but consistently good teams. And certainly nothing worth doing what Tim thinks should be done.
June 22, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Mr. Manassas, we are frustrated also that we cannot play you, Hollis, and other fine teams more. With the poor economy and rising prices and the fact that you are so far away, it just isn't going to happen. For years I have paid my own way from Albuquerque to tournaments, and the cheapest ones from here, if I want to take my wife and partner, reach close to $1000. Dalton would have pushed $1500 plus time off from work. Maybe teams could get together and choose one major tourney somewhere in the middle of the country to meet once a year, instead of either Dalton, or Las Vegas, or Orlando. SSUSA tries to bump teams, but it is a difficult thing to do at Plus, because it ups the budget, too. We haven't found an answer yet that I like-or apparently that you guys like either.
See you in Vegas.
June 22, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

1. Why did you choose to move up to 55? You were leaving 2 friends behind. Another quitting? Trouble in paradise? 30% change and I will bet you went after quality players, too. Wow-sounds like you did upgrade and strengthen and now you are making it sound like you 'had to'. I seriously doubt that you took 'friends' that were less than Plus caliber.
2.Very smart men have pointed out before that a person living in a bubble will learn to like that bubble so much that he will fight any attempt to get him out of the bubble. You seem to like your bubble as much as anybody I ever saw, outside of politicians.
3.It makes no sense to take a 50 Major Plus team that moves to 55 and make it a major team,(lateral move) bumped or not. Again you contradict yourself.You say age makes you stronger at the next level.Your own team again makes this point against you by winning in Reno.Yet you wanted to move down? Another one SSUSA got right. Your next paragraph sounds like political rambling. Are you saying that as a Plus team get older within it's bracket is should be automatically downgraded to Major because of age? I have played on 2 teams now at 2 different levels that were very old for the age group we played in-and did very well. In 2009, at 50AAA, the Desperadoes, with the same team that had won 2 games in 2 years at world's in 2007 and 2008, came in 3rd out of 20+ teams, despite having at least 5 players over 60 and only 3 under 55. In 2012, at 60 M+ GSF came in second to Hollis with 6 guys at or around 65. Age alone is only one factor.
4. One more time-SSUSA does not disband teams-they choose not to compete at the next level after reaching SSUSA's criteria to be bumped. Yet you are advocating that they should not be bumped. Aren't you then creating the 'dynasty' for them that you seem to fight so hard against here?
5. Dave published a list of winners of worlds for the last few years. Which teams are dynasties? I don't see any-and as you say-age will deplete those dynasties.

Mango won, hands down.

But, you are the vocal majority of one. I salute you for your effort.
June 21, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

In the interest of accuracy, I went back and reread threads and I owe you an apology on one count, Tim. What I took as complaining about being bumped the first time I read it was not. You were just saying you would have to play your tails off to win worlds. But that doesn't change the fact that if they hadn't bumped you, (and you did say that you had not qualified in your mind to be bumped), you would have been playing at a lower level when you have proved you are capable of winning at Plus. SSUSA made the right call on that one, and I think on most bumps. If teams choose not to compete at the higher level, that is THEIR problem, not SSUSA's. They probably should bump more.
I think the overriding issue is that you are saying that if a team feels they have no chance to win worlds at a level, they should not be there. When a team is bumped, at first it is a mental thing that teams have to get by. I have found that if a team plays their game at the higher level like they did before the bump, that they will compete just fine, and they will learn how to beat the better teams. It may take a while, and seniors are notoriously not as patient to learn as younger kids. How many times have i heard teams say they shouldn't be at the higher level, and when I asked how bad they got beat, they say 22-8, 24-6 and scores like that. I know that when they got bumped they had to have been scoring a heck of a lot more runs than that. They just don't play their game, and get beat badly. But, if they stay with it, eventually comes a game, or a tourney that they do play their game, wins some games and relax, and they have then made the step up. But it takes work.
Dave D. had a great post made personally back at the beginning of the year about his feelings on it. Maybe that would help people with what the thought process is on this issue. Dave, could I repost it, or will you?
June 21, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

Like talking to a rock. Probably thinks cars kill people, not the people driving them.
June 20, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Major plus problem

I am always entertained and amazed at your posts, Tim, but this one takes the cake. Wow, SSUSA breaks up teams all the time for the good of SSUSA programs. Really? You are saying that when teams win consistently or place highly in worlds, or show by dominating the division they are in, that by moving them up SSUSA is breaking them up? Wow-does SSUSA tell them to break up? NO, of course not. SSUSA is not in the business of breaking up teams, by any stretch of the imagination. The teams make that decision. What a classic case of let's transfer the blame to the entity you seem to like to attack. They do the best they can to prevent sandbagging, and if you try to say that doesn't exist, that becomes just another little bubble you live in. They are not perfect in their assessments, but if they did not do this, teams would stay and dominate a division for many years. But I don't understand how you can't see that major plus is different. THERE IS NO HIGHER LEVEL, no place to be bumped to. Players at that level, (apparently except you) want to be the best in the world and beat the best out there. They work hard to be the best and I never (except for you) hear anyone talk of breaking up the top teams. You are the vocal minority (or maybe even the vocal one) for this issue. And you, yourself are an example of SSUSA getting it right at least most of the time on the issue, as you have now won a tourney at major plus after crying about how you wouldn't be able to compete. I'm amazed you didn't break up your team after that, as a way to prove your point. Oh, that's right, you believe a team like yours (although you have shown the ability to WIN at Major Plus) should be allowed to stay at a lower level just because you don't cut players to get better. Tim, you contradict yourself over and over. It's laughable. Get some cojones and play at major plus like a man, and stop trying to dumb down the division.
June 14, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Best ball in Hot Weather

Omar-Steve Imlay is a true slugger in every sense of the word. If he cannot get it out of the park, the ball is getting too soft. I have been impressed with the Baden Fire, and would support a change in that direction.
June 4, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat physics/dynamics question

I've used a balanced bat all of my career-I always felt I had more bat speed and control. It is interesting to see so many others do the same.
June 4, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Does your team track player statistics?

19 for 14, Mike-you forgot the sac fly! :=)
June 3, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Old stories of bat doctoring

I heard of teams that microwaved the old balls believing they traveled farther. I'm not sure it really worked, but with the T4000 or Hot dots, or TN-Poly balls, it didn't matter.
Mike, was that guy with the long bat 'cruzin?' I think I remember him.
I also remember picking up one bat one time that I know was well over 38 oz. It took a man to swing that one!
I've been working on my new P413 GSC bat and I haven't found a way to doctor it yet!!!LOL Seems pretty hot.
May 24, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

Ok, it's STOOOPID BATS-
Go Rogue??? If I didn't have so many good friends on that team I would.........LOL Cya soon!
May 23, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

Oh Yeah:
13) JDub not talking about STOOPIDD bats!! LOL
May 23, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

We may have the pattern shift. The pattern did hold through this weekend with cool and rainy weather in Reno, but the 10 day appears to show this as the last storm-which gives a nice forecast for Reno! Yeah!
May 20, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

11)Dirty, Gary19 and his reincarnations posting either. He doesn't seem to have tried to 'sneak' on again lately.
12)Tim M. not advocating a breakup of M+ championship teams

May 19, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

Lee lee, I also had my tongue squarely in my cheek. I give Dave a hard time all the time but think he does a great job. I still think it will be unsettled that weekend.
May 19, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

Wow-this site is amazing-you put up a generality about weather patterns and it becomes an indictment of the fact that Dave posted the tourney information too early.
May 17, 2015
Webbie25
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RENO WEATHER

We are playing at Carson City, and I know that will make a difference. I also know how iffy the reports are, I was talking trends that I have followed for many years. I hope it is nice.
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