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Discussion: What's legal

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Feb. 16, 2013
naked cowboy
Men's 50
40 posts
What's legal
Last year was my first playing senior ball, I purchased a bat on line and checked all the info to make sure it was SSUSA approved. The info on the web page listed SSUSA approved along with USSSA, ASA,ISF,& another I can't remember, but when I recieved my bat and SSUSA was not stamped on the barrel so I called the salesman and he assured me that it was SSUSA approved. I downloaded a copy of the bat info just in case there was question, is my bat legal for SSUSA play?
Feb. 16, 2013
wagon487
Men's 50
538 posts
why wouldn't you just but a senior bat?
Feb. 16, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1010 posts
I agree with Wagon, however if you want to use less of a bat you a legal to use a ASA USSSA NSA ISF Bat if you want in SSUSA! FYI
Feb. 16, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1010 posts
oops type mean't to say you can use less of a bat, it is legal to use ASA USSSAA NSA ISF Bats FYI
Feb. 16, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
Cowboy, historically senior softball bats all things being equal will hit the ball farther than
other softball bats, but the price for extra distance is less durability and no warranty. ASA bats historically had the least distance and USSSA bats were between ASA and senior. Generally, ASA and USSSA bats have a 1 year warranty. The standards have recently changed and ASA and USSSA bats may have switched positions.
Senior bats need to be carefully broken in as described in other posts on this website and generally should not be used when the temp is under 60 degrees. In addition, softballs are constucted to different specs and some bats work better with different balls.
Hope this is helpful.
Feb. 16, 2013
VINNY LV
Men's 50
178 posts
Naked, I did the same thing with Combat 52cal... I called company and complained that the bat is not a senior bat( per SSUSA stamp).. Was gonna send back but I figured for $100 I'd try it... Boy am I glad I kept it... Not as hot as a senior bat but I like it .. since I've been swinging it about 5 other guys here in Vegas have bought one... The company doesn't advertise it as a senior bat anymore but believe me it's good enough to swing for the price.. Down2earthsports.com under cloeouts is where you'l find it.. ask for Brad and tell him Vinny told ya to call...
Feb. 16, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2734 posts
the down2earth trailer was at the field last weekend of an NSA tournament. I had bought two 52 cal bats 6 weeks before and asked their rep there about the bat. He.said that he had never heard of it. He then asked the rep behind him (Brad). He said he had just corrected the website.
my first one only lasted 200 swings 50 degree temps. Not a bad bp bat.
Feb. 17, 2013
Full Monty
80 posts

Just went to Down2earthsports.com web.

DID NOT see any Combat B-52.

Maybe they are sold out.
Feb. 17, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2734 posts
it's not a B-52, it's the John Henry 52 cal.
Feb. 17, 2013
Clean Up
45 posts


I looked for it also.
COMBAT John Henry 52 cal.

I don't see it....


Feb. 17, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2734 posts
They might be out of stock. There is one on eBay for $110. I did a Google search and couldn't find another.
Feb. 18, 2013
naked cowboy
Men's 50
40 posts
Well, thanks for your input guys it's good info like this that helps some of 1st time senior players not make a mistake when it comes to proper equipment. I am a long time Easton man but did not know that senior bats hit longer the those that are not senior sanctioned.As for the warranty,I believe that should be in place ,as you said, because of the price difference.The Miken Ultra2 did catch my eye so I guess I'll have to add that to by bat bag. Also Vinny I played in Vegas for 20 yrs in my younger days, Harrison Door,Mueller Stripping,Blackmons,The Killer B's out of the old softball center south of tow,great softball in Las Vegas. thanks guys for the info...
Feb. 18, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
149 posts
It's the Frank(Franc) Henry 52 Cal, he's a Canadian Major Player. You can get a Black Combat Centenarian at softballfans right now for 139.99 with coupon code "cent". They feel pretty close to the 52 Cal.
Feb. 18, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2734 posts
you're correct Frank, not John.
Didn't Gorilla Boy have Centenarians, black and white for really, REALLY good deal? -much better than the $139?
Feb. 18, 2013
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88 posts

With the bat changing it's name so many times, is it any wonder the bat can't be found?

With the price of Centenarians getting lower, it may be worth paying the extra few bucks and getting them instead of buying the B-52 or John Henry 52 cal. or Darth Vader 52 or Frank/Franc or what ever!

Feb. 21, 2013
naked cowboy
Men's 50
40 posts
I'm going to tell you what guys... I was researching all the bats Miken has to offer (and most of the senior softball sanctioned bats are Miken)and since every bat they offer has no warranty I'm not about to pay $200+ for a bat that cracks as easily as this thing does,also most of them are only senior softball sanctioned, not ASA, USSSA etc...I think I'll just stick to my Easton
Feb. 22, 2013
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19 posts

cowboy

Please put on some clothes!

Thank you


Feb. 22, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
149 posts
Naked,
Which Easton are you swinging? I have a CNT+ (SCN2) which is not far behind my senior sticks. Try softballfans.com for info on bats. Miken makes many different bats for different associations and they come with warranties. As far as manufactures Miken, Combat,Demarini, Reebok, & Worth all make senior only bats. Barring a few exceptions (Miken Ultra) if it has 1.20 or 1.21 bpf on the barrel it is legal for senior softball. If you shop around you can find senior bats for 150 and under.
Feb. 22, 2013
naked cowboy
Men's 50
40 posts
ju25 I have a Stealth Speed SSR4 and I'm thinking bout getting a Blemished 2013 SP13S2 end loaded Power Brigade. I paid $150 for the SSR4 and they want $140 for the SP13S2, now back in the day I had some power and Easton was my favorite weapon, I can still hit with some power and I think the SP13S2 might be what I need to complete my game, we'll see...
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