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Discussion: Rip-It(black), Senior, ASA Bat

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Nov. 29, 2006
Gripit&Ripit
31 posts
Rip-It(black), Senior, ASA Bat
Lets here how good(pro's & con's) the Rip-it(black), senior, ASA bat is. Does it have to pop of the yellow Rip-It? Is it good, bad, or ugly? Is it worth buying? Lets here it!!!!!!
Nov. 29, 2006
Lecak
Men's 55
1005 posts
Help me with something why would a Senior buy an ASA bat since most of the tournies allow UII and the combat. None of my ASA bats come close to either of the two mentioned above. If it meets the ASA standard it won't be as good.
Nov. 29, 2006
Hit the gap
Men's 60
143 posts
Lecak is right on. Our senior league is ASA (unfortunately). That's the only reason for anyone to have an ASA bat in their bag. With the original Freak being banned next year in ASA, I will be looking at the Senior Rip It.

I currently swing a Synergy CNT Flex in league. For an ASA approved bat, it has great pop and in my humble opinion, is the best ASA bat available.

Haven't tried the Senior Combat yet. May give it a go when my U2 breaks.
Nov. 29, 2006
Lecak
Men's 55
1005 posts
Let me have do over on this. My point is if it is an ASA approved bat it is not just for seniors and would be able to be used as any other ASA bat by anyone. At that point as HTG stated he will compare to his Synergy CNT. If it is a good ASA bat hopefully they will not market as a Senior only bat. You would have to judge this against other ASA standards by Easton, Miken etc.
Nov. 29, 2006
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
Let you know when I get mine in a week or so. Got the combo package so it will be interesting to see how they match up with my PST"S as these are the first composites that I will have owned except for the LS Genesis SB103.

I play in ASA leagues and 5 or 6 of my 12 tournaments next year are ASA so we will see.
Nov. 29, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
The Rip-it Senior ASA bat is not for Senior play only. It is just the name of the bat. Here is the reason behind the name.

I found this on SBF:
"We called the slowpitch bat "Rip-It Senior ASA" because we thought calling it Rip-It Elite ASA (or Rip-It ASA) could be confusing in relation to our Rip-It Elite Fastpitch bat (which is also ASA legal)."

"Most softball players think of 50+ leagues when they hear Senior (we do too). But, when we turned to a thesaurus while thinking up a name for our ASA slowpitch bat, we realized that the word "senior" also stands for "superior", "higher-ranking", or "further up the ladder." Since our goal with the Rip-It Senior ASA was to make a superior ASA bat, "senior" seemed to be a perfect word."


Nov. 29, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
It is really hard for me to judge an ASA bat, since I think they all stink. The Senior ASA is (in ASA terms) a great felling bat. With a ASA ball (rolled up pair of socks) it can tough to judge the pop but the swing is that of the Senior Elite (outlaw bat). In my humble judgement the senior ASA hits the same as the first freak (after 500 + hits). Then again I can't hit well so we should wait for the real hitters to tell us.
I can tell you that I saw 'homerun Bill' crank one in Sun Lakes yesterday about 320ft using the senior ASA and an ASA ball (a few of us are using the senior ASA test bats).
Dec. 1, 2006
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
Gripit &ripit
I have hit with both of the Rip It bats the ASA (black) bat hits very much like the Miken Freak + the more you hit it the better it seem to get. we are hitting some of the leftover SPA balls from Texas they made us buy 44/375. We have about 300 swings on it now.
Now the Yellow bat from Rip It is a very good bat it will hit with the Combat Senior bat on a even scale.the Combat is a 27 endload and the RipIt is a 28 oz I do not believe it will hit with the old Ultra 2 for distance it will be a very good basehitter base that wants to hit a linedrive in the gaps. If you are a proven HR hitter you will love the bat it will hit like the Freak 100 model. Our big guys love to hit it. we have 600 or more swings on it and it going strong. Hope it get approve for SPA or SSUSA it will outlast the U2 for sure. We try not to hit below 60 and the ball core is still good. Maybe this will help you
Don Ward
Kayson Grill 55'
Dec. 1, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
Gary,
I sometimes wonder if you can read and understand what you read. First of all I was just putting up the reason Matt from Rip-it still calls his bats senior.

Second of all if you look closely you will see even Matt states "Most softball players think of 50+ leagues when they hear Senior (we do too)." He seems to be using this as a marketing technique. Is that any different than any other bat company?




Dec. 2, 2006
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
Gary 19:

If you go to Senior Centers and other senior org most of them are 50+. It is only in softball that people under 50 are consisered Seniors.

So the natural tendency when someone says Seniors they relate to 50+
Dec. 2, 2006
Lefty
Men's 65
464 posts
Gary 19 in most states senior softball starts at 35 years young. In the small city that I live in near Nashville we start our senior league at 45 yrs. old. But in open league it starts at 35.
Dec. 3, 2006
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
In the National Assoc's the Women's Division some start at 40. There are some local leagues that have a 45 Div.
Dec. 3, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
The new black Rip it senior is only for seniors. It has mico chip that can read how much BS is in the blood stream. Based on that data it can tell if the player holding the bat is a ture senior of not. The BS count is a new patent pending device which will keep the bat out of players below the age of 55, unless of course their BS level is that us old farts.
I also understand that Matt is offering a no-strike out or douple your money back.
Dec. 13, 2006
the wood
1075 posts
E Ness:
Have you compared the 'Rip It' ASA version to the Combat AV -ASA? If so, which one would you recommend? Bear in mind that I like balance more than end load.
Also, if there is a swing weight differential... I use light bats because this obviously works well for Hank C. and Conway W. (27 oz Ultra 2 and/or Senior Combat).
I've heard broad claims about both of these new ASA bats... better than the original Freak... almost as good as an Ultra II.
I learned of the Senior Combat on this site and I must say that I'm pleased with it. To me, it has just slightly less pop than the U2 (about 3%) but it's certainly more durable. Many of the site dwellers predicted as much. So I consider their opinion to be reliable.
While I addressed this to E Ness, I'd appreciate anyone's input... anyone that will be NON-BIASED and that has actually tested both (Rip it & Combat AV ASA models). I just happen to know Ness and know that he really puts a bat through 'real labratory conditions' when he tests them.
Bob Woodroof
Dec. 13, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
The Wood,
I will be able to test the Black Rip-it ASA bat this weekend against the AV. We are going to go head to head after the Rip-it has 50 swings on it because that is how many swings the AV has.

Only problem is the Rip-it is a 28 and the AV is a 30 EL but I think we will have a good enough test because several guys are going to hit it. So it will not just be my opinion.
Dec. 13, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
The Wood: The black ASA bat is very good but not even close to the U2. I am not a bat expert but belive that no ASA bat can come close to the U2, Combat Senior or the Rip It Elite.
We have hit the black ASA bat and found it very stiff till about 300 hits, then it opens up well. Our guys like the swing feel the best, pop is like the freak but the swing is better. Would like to hear some other opinions as well.
Dec. 14, 2006
azsenior
92 posts
We saw the new black bat in action today in Sun Lakes, at our season tournament. It seemed to create quite the stir. Most of the guys liked better than the frreak bat. I liked the feel of the bat, not a strong hitter but those that can hit hard gave it a high rank.
We want to order some but not sure who to call...
Dec. 15, 2006
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2617 posts
Try this:
Matthew Polstein
President
http://www.rip-it-elite.com
Dec. 15, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
I can help:
e-mail me at
sg550223@yahoo.com
Dec. 18, 2006
Mighty Grip
Men's 55
34 posts
Please note that the Rip It senior ASA has a different balance system. If you swing a 27 EL bat than you will want the 28, if you want a lighter swing the 26 will work. At this time we have not found a need for the 27, however please let us know if you feel it would be a plus.

thanks
Bill Gateley
480-241-3717
Dec. 18, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
Cast my vote for a 27oz. I used a 27 freak before the senior ASA bat. Which I have a 28. If you guys made a 27, I would buy another one..
Dec. 18, 2006
batguyaz
134 posts
Just read on another web site that the Rip It senior ASA will not be offered in a 27oz.
Dec. 19, 2006
E. Ness
122 posts
Bat guz,
You mean it will be offered in a 27 ounce don't you? Because the posted on SBF they hope to have the 27 in January.
Dec. 19, 2006
batter4u
Men's 65
74 posts
Hey, just took some hits with my 28oz rip it. swings good, balls come off it good . sounds alot like the yellow bat when the balls comes off it, not broken in yet but was hitting some 280-290 off the tee. will know more after i hit some pitching, but so fo seems like a very good ASA bat
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