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Discussion: One up Rule in the Open Inning!!!

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May 29, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
One up Rule in the Open Inning!!!
I would like to see SSUSA go to the One up Rule in the Open In the Open Inning that would create more excitement and strategy our great game. I would like to hear some comments on this great Idea. 😀
May 29, 2015
crusher
Men's 75
524 posts
Game tied going into top of open inning & HR's are tied at limit.

Visitors hit 1 HR and are now 1 run up and 1 HR up.
No more runs are scored.

Bottom of open inning.
Home team hits 1 HR to tie game, next batter hits the 1 up HR and wins game.

That is why 1 UP is not allowed in open inning. It is unfair.
May 29, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
Thats when strategy comes into play if your visiting team thats the chance you take. What if you are the visiting team and your down 1 in homeruns and you hit 2 homeruns and the home team doesn't hit any and visiting team wins. There are a million what if's.... my point being it allows your team to hit 1 or 2 more homeruns towards the end of the game. Like some Teams are out of Homeruns in the 2nd inning. I think adding more excitement to the end of the game can omly make the game better than dead ball outs for Homeruns.
May 29, 2015
17Black
Men's 60
414 posts
I agree with crusher on this one, and I do believe that is why some associations have this rule in place. No matter what the home run limit is, the last team batting has an advantage of being able to hit one additional homer.

You can argue that the visiting team had equal amount of chances, but what if they hit the home run to go one up and the next guy hits one over the fence for an automatic out because that would be "2" up.

Yet the home team still gets to hit two? That's why the rule is in place.

Part of me would like to see one up throughout a game till the open inning, as I hate seeing guys get penalized, for hitting fair ball home runs and being called out (or) even being issued a walk or a single as some associations toy with-----------but the older I get, the more I like the out after hitting whatever limit your playing with.
May 29, 2015
17Black
Men's 60
414 posts
I did play in a tournament somewhere a couple years ago where our team benefited from this scenario with "one up"---------might have been in Barberton Ohio????

we were down one home run going into the open inning----------we were the home team-----------the rule in this tournament was "you could not go one up in the open inning"------------so the visiting team hits a homer in the open inning (keep in mind they were already one up)---------so the batter was called out.

we came up in the home half of the open inning and hit a homer which DID count (because it was not a one up homer, we just evened the homers at that point)-----and we won the game.

In that case you could hit a homer in the open inning as long as you did not go one up in the open inning.
May 29, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
It's always advantage to be the home team and that's why I think the higher seeded team should be home instead of a coin flip when comes to bracket play. To allow more Homeruns is always a good thing....DBO Homeruns thats the ticket...not.
May 29, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
That's a great point 17black the visiting team could go 1 up but the Home Team could only Tie the Homerun 1 up rule in the Open Inning...
May 31, 2015
Mango
Men's 50
159 posts
JT,
You bring up an interesting topic for discussion. You state that it's always an advantage to be home team and that seems to be a widely held assumption in the slow pitch world. I'm not so sure. In baseball there is an advantage to being home because it's a low scoring game and you have the ability to " manufacture" a single run by stealing, bunting, hit and run etc. All of which you can't do in slow pitch softball. I believe both home and visitors each have advantages. Personay, I like being visitors for a number of reasons ( I believe there are stronger advantages most of the time) Setting the one up rule aside, what advantages are there for being home versus visitor in slow pitch?
May 31, 2015
garyheifner
649 posts
Just to express an opinion, hated the 1-up. We get "3" take them whenever. As to having the hammer, in one of our unexpected world championships, we lost only one toss and lost that game. We won all the others as home team with "5" of those games being a one run victory in the bottom of the open inning. Will always take home. Just a moral thing I have noticed over the years. If you take home and can hold them to "0" or "1" in the 1st and lay 4 or 5 on them, it changes the
feeling of the game right at the start.
May 31, 2015
LeeLee50
140 posts
JT25,

The HR is fair just the way it is. 3,6,or 9 HR's isn't that enough, I guess not if you really need the 1 up rule. There is a lot a strategy already. JMHO
June 1, 2015
PlanoPlayer
Men's 65
72 posts
JT25: I would like to see one up in all innings not just the last. Teams that don't hit more home runs after the limit will limit the other team to the limit of home, so it is fair for both teams in my opinion to have the one up rule if they can both climb the one up ladder, with the exception of the bottom of the last inning.

Crusher: your comment about the situational analysis you stated in your reply is not why they do not have the one up rule in the open inning. It is the reason the home team cannot go 1 up in the bottom of the last inning which is different than not being able to go one up in the entire open inning.

In my opinion a team can go one up in the top of the last inning and the home team can then tie them with a home run in the bottom of the inning but cannot go one up because the visiting team will or may not have a chance to tie their bottom of the last inning one up home run.

In SSUSA it is moot because they do not currently have the one up rule in their rule book. I liked it better when there was the one up rule.
June 1, 2015
Gonedeep43
71 posts
And what if you come to the open inning and haven't used any homeruns?
June 2, 2015
JT25
Men's 50
54 posts
Thanks for all your comments, I just believe going 1 up in the open inning would add a little more to this great game of ours. With the home team can only tie in homeruns with the 1 up rule in affect. Gonedeep43 if you have'nt hit any homeruns you would still be able to hit all of your homeruns up to your limit then only go 1 up if the other team has reached their limit.
June 2, 2015
Grimmie
17 posts
JT25 we do have tourneys like this. Our Southside team is playing in TN, ISSA you get 10 Hrs then 1 up.I like the Rule we are more base hitting team We won't hit our 10 a game,then the other team has to adjust.Everyone have safe weekends play ball.
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