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March 3, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
Buzzard shame
Chandler, Az
Chandler senior saturday league
Buzzard team from Fountain Hills vs Rip It seniors
ASA league played on fields with 310 ft fence
heavy winds blowing left accross field, almost in from left
1st game of the season

Bill G (homerun Bill) comes up and they walk him every time, both games. The umpire complains, the teammates complain yet the Buzzards show that many of us seniors are taking this game to a new low. Man-alive guys, this is just a game, not the world series. We grip about bats way to much, we walk guys with more skill than we have and most of us don't even remember half of it the next day.
Did we work hard all of our lives so we can retire and act like little boys again.
On a bright note we noticed that BG was also pitching and did not walk the other player 'just because' - so sportsmanship is not forever gone. Maybe the Buzzard team will learn a lesson here. I am not part of either team, just saw parts of this from the other field and heard about it later.
Point here is, let's just play and have fun, let everyone have a chance to show their skill and maybe we retire from softball with more happy memories.
March 4, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
Your right. In league play there is no need for that. I think a lot of seniors (and we have a few in our local leagues) have forgotten what we are playing for. We are lucky enough to still have some of our athletic abilities left and we should be just going out and having a good time and getting some excerise and meeting a lot of great people a long the way.

My philosophy has always been if you are afraid to pitch to good hitters then you shouldn't be pitching. I even apply that to major league ball.
March 4, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
Buzzard are a tournament team playing in rec league for pactice. I am sure there are many teams like this accross the nation. They come in and beat up on us 'rec' players for kicks. In this case they face to face someone with more skill that will put them back in their place, so they walked him, everytime mind you. Last season tournament they pitched to him and he parked every one of them.
So I agree with Fred and the others, chill out on the field, enjoy the time and just watch in fun. Besides, I walked over to watch Billy park one over the 310 mark and saw him walk. AS my grandson say's, Buzzards, take a chill pill.
March 4, 2007
batwise
35 posts
We have team like that in ourt league too. Much to serious for thier own good.
Ever notice how senior love the word 'illegal'....
New to the board, hope to find you well.

by the way, it that Rip it team anything to do with the bat company ??
March 5, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
Team that Bill Gateley from Rip It plays on. I do not think it is a company team, just by name only.
I think they are changing to the name to 'just-walk-um'
March 6, 2007
replant
97 posts
sounds to me like you got a Major Plus guy playing in a AA league and you think he is a hero. maybe you should examine HIS motive and not whine about the opponents.
March 6, 2007
replant
97 posts
hey AZ Senior ,on another post in this message board, you say your team walks him too. So you don't feel so defeated. What you got to say about that? It appears most of the posts on this guy are written by the same person under different names.
March 6, 2007
replant
97 posts
to AZSENIOR---just to jog your menory take a look at your post Feb 15th under Walk or Pitch on this message board.
March 6, 2007
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
612 posts
Of course this is coming from a team called FOG, but doesn't it seem a little interesting to have a senior team that is called R-I-P?

Anyway on the situation described, just remember that every day above the diamond is better than one below it, and every day that we wake up is a good one. Play ball.
March 6, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
1. We use to walk him - now let him hit
2. Differnt guys - same topics - just no life but softball
3. Bill G is not a tournament player, he just plays rec ball
March 6, 2007
replant
97 posts
azsenior-ya still got some egg on your face on that one. Why so sorry for a Major+ guy that wants to play in a crap league. Something wrong with him?
March 6, 2007
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
just a thought hear,why can't he play in the league replant.its said he doesn't want to play tourney's so his only recourse is to play league ball.
March 6, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
This post is going south - the topic is about walking good hitters or letting them hit and that is all.
I have known BG for a long time, not a tournament player, still works full time ane has kids at home. Gives up his time for some free hitting clinics and is well liked on and off the field. So he hits better than most, big deal. He still has a belly, tells bad jokes and is a fair pitcher at best.
So let's just stick to the subject at hand.
March 6, 2007
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
bat guy i'm with you on it,its only league let him hit,i've been in the same position and it would pee me off to be walked in the begining of the game(i'm not a masher but hit real good)for no reason
March 6, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
Thanks, I think we have reached an agreement that good hitter should be allowed to 'do their thing' unless it is a normal defensive move.
By the way, our team plays BG this saturday, 310 ft fences or not, if a guy that can hit ASA 340ft, we're walked the bugger..LOL
March 7, 2007
replant
97 posts
last I looked walks were not against the rules. Nor are they unsportsmanlike. Charging the mound and stuff like that is unsportsmanlike. Sounds like sour grapes because you lose. Getting on base via a walk should mean a free run to any team. When you say this post has reached an agreement. You must be reading a different post than I am.
March 7, 2007
SouthernLeather
22 posts
Game on the line, heck I would walk em. I might even walk em just to try to get him to swing at a bad pitch the next at bat.

Walk em routinely? Well, that's just plain low-rent. Play the game.
March 7, 2007
Old Bat Man
2 posts
I've been playing ball for a while now and want to add my comments to this. If I was your manager I would take out $1000 from what you are getting paid to play for every time you intentionaly walked a batter. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, you don't get paid to play. So, put on your catchers gear, get out your batting practice screen and pitch the ball. After all, a walk is like kissing your sister. Something you don't want to get into.
March 7, 2007
Old Bat Man
2 posts
I've been playing ball for a while now and want to add my comments to this. If I was your manager I would take out $1000 from what you are getting paid to play for every time you intentionaly walked a batter. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, you don't get paid to play. So, put on your catchers gear, get out your batting practice screen and pitch the ball. After all, a walk is like kissing your sister. Something you don't want to get into.
March 10, 2007
MaverickAH
59 posts
If a guy is capable of hurting you every time up & the batter behind him isn't anywhere near the same threat, you walk him. I don't care who doesn't like it! It's just good strategy & plain common sense!

If you don't want walks then stop keeping scores, declaring winners & losers, stop keeping W-L records, declaring champions..........

Whether it's league or tournament you play this game to win. You do what, within the scope of the rules, gives you the best chance of winning the game. Like it or not intentionally walking a hitter is perfectly fine even if it's every time up!
March 10, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
We just got back for the Chandler fields, our team pitched to Billy all but once, bottom of 6, 2 outs, runners on 2 & 3....the walk was ok with all, just a smart play and nothng more.
Of course he did pop out 3 or 4 but we did get him out 1 or 2 times. So no big deal.
The real reason I am positng is to make an offical statement from a unoffical group.
guys, we measured with a tape a homerun today ( ASA bat - ASA ball) at 348.2 ft (it hit a power box). That is the longest ball I have ever seen. We even douple checked the bat, a stock Rip It Senior ASA bat.
We are now completly convinced that this is best ASA bat, period.

And that all I am going to say about that.
March 10, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
The young lady with the City of Chander P/R that was out there today said her office got many calls complaining about the Buzzards, some about the walking of Bill but most just about a tournament team playing in Rec ball and some about what a bunch of jerks.
I heard about the HR that hit the power box. I agree that it should help us Rip It outcast with proof to the unbelivers that this bat is for real.
I thinnk the company deserves some repect as well.
March 11, 2007
replant
97 posts
azsenior--you've got 99 posts on this board and all whining. Check out your facts before you spout off. Your wrong on all counts. Bad sport and sore loser.
March 11, 2007
replant
97 posts
sorry AZsenior, I ment Azbatguy. But you both whine.
March 11, 2007
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Batguyaz, you're doing it again.....
March 11, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
man, I get in more touble with you guys than at home. What did I do now ??
March 11, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
Allow me ot explain our desire and passion here in Arizona. I am sure that in the backyard of Miken there is a pasion and acceptance for the product and people of the company. There is personal interaction with the players form Miken folks and such. So when they started out I am sure the passion level was high there, now they are a successful national company with many loyal customers.
This is what we have here in Arizona, Rip It is right here, one on one with the players, free hitting clinics, test bats and a Rip It owner that is proactive with our senior softball players. He is also a 'legend in our own minds - LOL - for hitting which makes him stand out even more.
So we are home base attached to the company because of the personal connection. Add to that a great product that is such a passion within our softball lives and it is easy to understand the excitment. We here in the East Valley would have the same passion for Miken, Combat or any other company if they just happen to be with us, in person, on the field each week.
So we, the east valley players are not pumping up Rip It because of cheap promotion, we are simply responing to personal interaction of a friend, product and company - combined.
March 11, 2007
Dbax
Men's 60
1294 posts
This threads subject was about intentionally walking someone. Had nothing to do with the Rip It! Give us a break with all of your commercials.
March 11, 2007
batwise
35 posts
I think his point is that sme of you cannot or will not accept that a new company can have customers of passion and conviction. It seems that board members can only post about products accepted by the inner circle.
I have over 30 years in the bat business, have worked with most of the large companies in some way or another. So let me share that may always be a new product on the rise. Some will die on the way up, some will just fade, and one or two will survice the climb and make it. So back off the guys from Az. I think iit is great they support a product and company as they do.
March 11, 2007
replant
97 posts
Your right ,I suspect this is wrtten by the bat guy to sell products and try to make himself a hero at the same time. How lame are you, Bill G, or whatever your name is.
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