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Discussion: HELP ON THE RULES (SSWC OR ANYONE ELSE)

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June 5, 2007
Freddie
Men's 55
108 posts
HELP ON THE RULES (SSWC OR ANYONE ELSE)
Bases loaded, 1 out. The ball is hit to the outfield, 1 run scores, the second runner scores on a pass ball @ the plate, the second runner intentionally kicks the ball to direct it in another direction. The umpire calls dead ball, & runners return to 3rd & batter to 2nd. My argument was that the second runner who scored & then kick the ball should of been called out for interference with a live ball & his run does not score. ANY Help!

Freddie
June 5, 2007
Cognac Lite
Men's 50
32 posts
Freddie, I read your scenario. I may be wrong but this is the way that I think the rule would be interpreted. Being that the second runner has crossed the plate, it would seem to me that he would be treated as a player standing outside of the dugout. A deadball would be called, and the runner closest to the plate will be called out. The batter/runner will go back to second.

I am now interested in knowing the actual call.
June 5, 2007
VegasPaul
Men's 60
30 posts
Any interferance results in a dead ball and an at least one out. If the second runner scored his run would count unless appealed because he missed a base. Intentionally kicking a ball should result in interferance and someone being out and most likely the one closest to home. Other runners should be returned to base last touched at the time of interferance.
June 5, 2007
5-RBIS
Men's 65
12 posts
Maybe this will help, but this is baseball.

Mark McGwire at bat, Ricky Henderson on second and Stan Javier on first. Mac hit a single to left, Rusty Greer fields the ball and fires to the catcher rodriquez to shoot down henderson Rodrigues bobbled the ball Henderson slid safely. as he sat there at home Henderson nudged the ball with his hand while it lay on the ground before Rod could get his hands on it , rod then grabbed the ball , threw to third to get Javier but failed. Home plate ump Ken Kaiser called Javier out because Henderson had interfered with the play by touching the ball. Since Henderson scored a legal run he could not be penalized The ump used rule 9.01 which gives umps the authority to rule on any point not covered in the rule book. A legally scored run cannot be taken away from the scoring team. Your interference occured after a legal run scored.

hope this helps.... again this is baseball.
June 5, 2007
THECAT
59 posts
All runs count. Immediate dead ball. If in the umpires judgement there could have been a play, any play , made whether or not an out could be made. He may call the runner closest to home out. Final, 2 runs score , 2 outs and batter/runner at 1 st. A good unpire will make this call.
A waring against the runner who made the infraction.
Aug. 15, 2007
olddog
4 posts
freddie,
Aug. 15, 2007
olddog
4 posts
freddie if the runner already has scored then intentionally kicked the ball, dead ball should be called and the runner closest to home plate should be called out and all other runners returned to the base they legally possessed at the time of the infraction
Aug. 15, 2007
RonD22
Men's 50
26 posts
The ruling would Be the 2 runs score and then dead ball interferance and the closest runner to the plate would be called out, which was the runner that started on first and the batter/runner would be returned to the base he had when the infraction occurred. If the infraction occurs after the runs scored you cannot take them away.

Ron Devlin
Florida Umpire
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