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Discussion: LVSSA Tournament last weekend

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Sept. 3, 2008
DonnaM
Men's 60
10 posts
LVSSA Tournament last weekend
LVSSA ran the event better than the last 2 years. 60 major+ had 4 competitive teams . No problems worth discussion. Finally, someone used good balls. No excuses if you didn't hit it out. The very BEST looking trophy we've ever won. To all the great sports on MTC, Old As & GSF... thanks for the memories, men.
Sept. 3, 2008
Dbax
Men's 60
1283 posts
Wasn't very hard to make it better than the last two catastrophies.
Sept. 3, 2008
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Dave relax hit a dunk'n donuts or something. LVSSA did a great job learned from whatever went on and put on a tournament that all of the players I talked to enjoyed. If you like the long ball this was the place to be. If you like a strategic 3-2, game, where the coach brings in the lefty out of the bullpen to give matchup problems to the righty batter and the pitcher is on a strict pitch count and runners are put in motion to create holes in the infield and stay out of the double play and hit backside to create a run it probably would have been a huge disappointment.
Sept. 3, 2008
Dbax
Men's 60
1283 posts
Like I said, it's good to know that they finally got things right because as a whole the LVSSA has been at the bottom of the barrel, and you can't deny it.

And now someone says that in LVSSA it's ok to make side rules with the team your playing against? And this was a "World" tournament? LOL.

And Dunkin Donuts suck. Krispy Kreme rules.

And why would you bring in a lefty from the bullpen to give matchup problems to a righty batter? :)
Sept. 3, 2008
breeze53
Men's 55
40 posts
Boys, boys, boys behave. Just wish Dirty would chime in over the numerous HRs, bats and balls etc. Then this post would be perfect. Bob
Sept. 3, 2008
Gekle BUilders
Men's 50
204 posts
Don't provoke him he will find his agenda.How about a thread on whats right with SENIOR SOFTBALL?
Sept. 3, 2008
DoubleL10
Men's 65
834 posts
DonnaM, Congrats to you guys on your victory! We wish we (Old A's) could have given you a better game but y'all were really hitting the ball well. Good to see you and Tols again as well as my old pals Ed Rose, Dave Reed and Jimmy Decker. Hope to see y'all down the road.

Are y'all going to Phoenix or playing in the WinterNationals in Fort Myers? At this point our Boaz team is talking about going to the WinterNationals with a few additions for 2009. Larry Lopez, Boaz/ASI and Old A's.
Sept. 3, 2008
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
They did a much much better job running the tournament this year! Love the 1 and 1 count. The Mavericks were there in the Major 50+ (in exhibition) to show that there is not one Major team can compete at the Major-plus level. Wouldn't mind them coming in to some of our tournaments because they should have a place to play. Maybe some sort of equalizer.
Sept. 3, 2008
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Why the equalizer? Are you with the Goodman team, if so I believe the win for them is an automatic move to M+ for 2009.
Sept. 4, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
"And why would you bring in a lefty from the bullpen to give matchup problems to a righty batter? "
dbax, clearly because lecak doesn't know baseball.

"Boys, boys, boys behave. Just wish Dirty would chime in over the numerous HRs, bats and balls etc."
Homers are okay, but guys just have to recongnize, undersatnd, and acknowledge why they happen in that quantity at that age and not try to take too much credit for them.

"How about a thread on whats right with SENIOR SOFTBALL"
Based on how few teams participate in tournaments it will be a pretty short thread.
Sept. 4, 2008
the wood
1086 posts
Gary, Lecak knows baseball and he clearly meant to say 'lefty v' lefty'... I know this because I know him... I know him because he shows up and plays. You like to isolate on a typo and 'twerp it' to death. If you did this in Joe's or anyone else's actual presence, you would find yourself looking up most of the time. This is the thing that most of senior players despise about you. How do I know this? Because they have told me when we have crossed paths.
'based upon how few teams participate in tournaments it would be a short thread'... If your posts were confined to original thoughts (as opposed to repetitive ramblings) , ALL of the threads would be shorter.
You're not without some good ideas but someone has convinced you that you need to repeat them several times per day. We're all grown people here and, as such, really don't need to be constantly bombarded with the same boring caballo caca...
We play, you don't... no matter what you write, or how many times you do so, it isn't like actually being out there.
BW
Sept. 4, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
"to death"? Hardly does once count as that. You guys sure like to exaggerate.

By the way, mention repetition to "einstein". How many times has he written about platooning, or crappy balls, or how guys won't play without good balls, or about how he needs to hit through better technology to have fun or else he won't show up?

And the truth is if the list of what is good about senior tourneys was long more guys and teams would play in them.
Sept. 4, 2008
the wood
1086 posts
Gary, I have heard those same thoughts many, many times.
It should be clear to almost everyone that Einstein and I do not agree on everything. But he does show up and play. We do have the 'benefit' of putting his face with his name. He has his own drummer who also makes road trips.
In actuality, the thread about 'The many positive things in senior softball' would be meaningless to you because you have nothing to offer to it. You don't seem to understand the importance of the relationships developed or any of the other intrinsic elements. If the game isn't structured in the way that you prefer, you don't show up.
The game is imperfect but it's what WE do for amusement. Why don't you re-direct your intellectual energies toward the War in Iraq (as an example) and get on the Defense Dept's chat rooms. I'm sure that would be delighted to hear of your many per peeves... over and over and over.
Now before you take offense to this analogy, recognize that I'm aware that your son was there at one time. Using this as an example was/is in no way meant to express anything negative toward him or any other American that is serving over there. But you have roughly as much first hand experience in Iraq as you do in senior softball.
Like petrified wood, your antics have gotten old... in large part, this is why you were banned before.
Sept. 4, 2008
the wood
1086 posts
Who is to say that it's a small percentage? You? Can you really speak for the truths beyond Cleveland?
I play in a senior league out here and a fairly decent percentage of its participants play in senior tourneys. In fact, they arrange the league games around our tournament schedules. Would this be merely whim on their part? My guess is that it's because the league doesn't want forfeits that would occur when the tournament guys are gone.
As to the percentage... I would say that at least half of our guys (on my league team) do play in senior tourneys. I will say that this number drops on some of the other teams... but, in no way, would I construe it to be a small number. I will also say that the guys that do play v. the ones that do not play tournament ball are better equipped as far as remaining athleticism, ability, desire, etc. I do not recall any of the non-tourney guys stating that it's because they agree with Gary.
Sept. 4, 2008
F.O.G.
Men's 40
105 posts
Hey Joe...are these guys picking on you??? You need some help????

Sounds like this was a good tourney.

Funny stuff!
Sept. 4, 2008
softball4b
Men's 60
762 posts
Dirty Gary is missing the point. The organizations that host National Tournaments are doing so for the individulas interested in competing on a level beyond Recreational. That is not a slam against Rec Ball, because we all play it, we just approach those games a little different. To comment on a venue that you are unwilling or unable to particiapte in is...........well..........naive at best and extremely uneducated at worst.........
Sept. 4, 2008
DonnaM
Men's 60
10 posts
Larry: Tols is moving up to 65 in Phoenix. Playing with FL. Legends. Come on down to Naples, our home town, & play Winter Nationals vs. FL Raptors. Remember the 325 fences? Best hotel is Hampton Inn. Hope to see you there.
Sept. 4, 2008
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
To Lecak, I hardly think a one run come from behind victory in the bottom of the 7th is justification for a bump to Major-plus. Do you want us out that bad?
Sept. 4, 2008
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
Jawood just trying to establish if you were at the tourney. What i want is irrelevant as it relates to next year, I don't have a team for next year, a year off sounds mighty tempting. SSUSA I believe has designated that LVSSA event as an automatic bump. On a serious note congratulations, everybody was in such a hurry to scramble out of there I'm not sure that was properly conveyed.
Sept. 5, 2008
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
401 posts
Teams winning first place in all Summit organization final championships tournaments are raised up one skill level for the next year with no chance for appeal.
Sept. 5, 2008
Dirty
Men's 50
1375 posts
Which is at it should be. If you show your worthiness by winning a major tournament, you should move up. You have little if anything left to prove at your current level.

Not to mention that competitiors should welcome a challenge.
Sept. 8, 2008
shooter1
3 posts
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