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Feb. 11, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
To the SSUSA staff
Why were the dates for the 2009 Midwest Championships tournament recently pushed back 2 weeks? The 50 division was recently listed as being July 10-12 and is now listed as July 24-26. This puts three 3-day large drawing tournaments back-to-back-to-back - SPA nationals, SSUSA Midwest Championships, and ISA worlds. Something will have to give and team turnout at these tournaments will suffer as a result. I can not understand the logic behind scheduling of this nature. If your organization is so worried about poor turnout in the various divsions, this type of scheduling needs to stop. Teams can not simply afford, or take time off work, to attend the better tournaments when they are scheduled in this matter. Thanks for helping teams make up thier minds. My guess would be that if teams are forced to choose because of scheduling such as this, they will choose to go hit balls over the fence that are not dead ball outs. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Feb. 11, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
I would also like to mention you did not make this change in the recently distributed 2009 tournament book. Page 45 lists July 24-26 for the 50 divisions and page 46 lists July 10-12.
Feb. 11, 2009
bullet
Men's 55
130 posts
Glad this was brought to our attention.We the teams make a schedule based on these web sites then things change.Brett said it exactly,3 weekends in a row,WON'T cut it someone will loose out.Original dates worked great for spacing tournaments out.So why was this changed.
Feb. 12, 2009
william wallace
42 posts
Brett,
Really why do you think it was changed. Unless this was a mistake it is obvious and the answer is the other two tournaments you mentioned.

The only way to compete against the associations that are not stupid enough to change the homerun rules is to put popular tournaments up against them. This will force teams to pick and they are assuming their tournament will win. They may assume too much.
Feb. 12, 2009
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
It might also be noted that NSA World's in Boaz and Cullman,Alabama are the same weekend, July 24-25-26, but this is a tourney only for teams that can hit the ball without having to use the U2 and the Combat. Joe Cothran told me a week ago they will be using better balls this year.
We will be at this touney, have been there the last 5 years,cause the bats do not matter to us,and I can stay at any hotel there I want too.

Rabbit,Nationwide/Indiana Classics 55's

Feb. 12, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
If the 50s division is in fact played on July 24-26 instead of the original July 10-12 dates, our team may likley have to skip it as well.
Feb. 12, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Isn't some of this just team dynamics, and as many teams that won't or can't do something there probably is the same that will for their own reasons. We are looking at Chicago instead of SPA, if SPA moved the tourney to say New York or Los Angeles we would probably look at SPA over Chicago. If Chicago takes a hit in attendance or we can't get enough players we'll take a look at it and make an intelligent for the 14 players we have on our roster.
Feb. 12, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
Lecak, it is not a geographical issue. Moving the dates is the problem. The orginal dates (July 10-12) worked better because it did not mean three 3-day weekends in a row for 3 of the better tournaments of the year. Not many people or teams can do that so teams are forced to choose. Many of our guys prefer not to travel 2 weekends in a row, especially for 3-day tournaments. With this in mind, we may skip the one in the middle which is the tournament in question here if it is not moved back to the original dates - the Midwest Championships.
Feb. 12, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Brett understand, our dynamic was a little different most of our team likes big city atompsheres and the SPA tourney in Dalton doesn't provide the wives opportunities like the big city venues do. Not an endightment on SPA just something that we look for when we pick venues to attend. I have a feeling the associations know this and plan accordingly.
Feb. 12, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
There have also been rumors circulating that the Midwest Chmapionships may be moved to Kansas City instead of Chicago.
Feb. 12, 2009
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Brett is that something you would recommend to us players out west. I'm assuming you would have an idea where this event would most likely land. If enough of the big boys in the midwest and east go to this tournament this was one we were looking real hard at making.
Feb. 12, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
We would obviously like it if it were in fact moved here. Our local SSUSA director is the one that told me it might be coming here instead of Chicago. There is one particularly nice complex that would be perfect for it - Mid-America Sports Complex (10 fields). There are other nice complexes in the area as well.
Feb. 13, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
SSUSA staff, what are the correct dates for the 2009 Midwest Championships? Please clarify!!! Your tournament guide booklet lists both July 10-12 and July 24-26 on the same page for the 50, 55, and 60 divisions.
Feb. 14, 2009
Brett
Men's 55
239 posts
SSUSA staff, please answer!!! What are the correct dates for the 2009 Midwest Championships? Your tournament guide booklet lists both July 10-12 and July 24-26 on the same page (46) for the 50, 55, and 60 divisions.
Feb. 15, 2009
Lefty
Men's 65
469 posts
Rabbit I'll be playing 55 AAA this year. So we'll be playing some ball against each other I hope. I see your team is going to Boaz are ya'll planning on going to SSUSA in Birmingham. I know I'll see you in Dalton. Looks like a pretty good year for me. The ISA world is not to far from my home in the Nashville area this year. Can't wait to see the big boys hit. Life is good for this Cajun.
Feb. 15, 2009
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
Hi Lefty, it will be good to see you after missing you most of last year, our paths just never crossed, you are right, we will be in Boaz, Manassas, Dalton for sure, having our team meeting this Saturday to set the rest of the dates,
Will see you in July, Rabbit
Feb. 16, 2009
Gary Heifner
248 posts
The Midwest Championships in Champaign was my 2nd favorite tourney of the year. Rudy ran a great event on great fields. Too bad the city had some kind of issue. I think the staff is in a scramble mode just to get the tourney in this year and we will have to deal with it. Hopefully something can be worked out with Champain next year.
Feb. 16, 2009
grumpy55
Men's 60
102 posts
It sure would be nice to get this Midwest figured out. We are trying to finish our schedule up and since we are in the Midwest it would be nice to have it here at home. If it is in Kansas City, as the rumors have it, that is about 81/2 hours from us and probably will not attend. It is what is I guess.
Feb. 16, 2009
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
Hi Grumpy55, according to the tournament board on this page it is on July 24-26, and I assume this is correct, and I am with you, I do not know why Rudy does not have it this year, he did a great job.

Rabbit, Indiana Classics 55's
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