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| April 10 DonB 48 posts | This question is for the people in the know.I found some at a health store 10 minutes from my house which is 100% pure Acai juice.How much should I consume at a time?How many times a day?Before,with or after meals? Can I mix it with other juices? Don |
| April 10 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Cold drink & juices. Not hot. Taste is good, not sour or the like & mixes well. |
| April 10 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | DonB, Don, this is NOT THE ACAI JUICE that we take, the real Acai Juice that we take can't be bought in H.E..B, HEALTH STORES OR ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT FROM ONE OF THE ACAI DISTRIBUTERS.Please feel free to e-mail me or call me and I will give you the complete information. This product we take has changed my life and the lives of the friends and relatives that I have introduced to this Acai Juice. Kenny |
| April 10 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | There is a lot of misinformation out there on acai as its unregulated. The acai berry is similar in make up to a cherry. It has skin, pulp and pit or seed. The seed has no value whatsoever. There are companies that take the discarded seeds, grind them up and sell them as 100% acai. Its legal and it is 100% acai, however it has no value. The only certified acai so far is made by Eurobotanicals. If the product you see is not certified by Brunswick labs you cannot be sure what you are buying. Brunswick labs owns the patent to ORAC testing and they are the only ones who can certify. If the company doesnt want their product tested and verified, they have something to hide. It may be a good product, but if they fail to get it certified, something is probably wrong. Look for the Brunswick logo and its ORAC value. |
| April 11 DonB 48 posts | I talk to the heath store and asked them if this was the real acai juice. They tell me that it is and pointed me to the website http://www.earthsbounty.com/acai_juice.htm Suggested use is 1-3 fl.oz.,but it doesn't tell me what time of the day is best to take it or do I need to take it before,during or after a meal. Thanks in advance for your input. Don |
| April 11 Wick 12 posts | Ok, I understand that Acai juice has major anti-oxidents in it, but will someone please tell me the benefits you are receiving by taking it? Please be specific. |
| April 11 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | EVERYBODY, I keep telling you that you can't buy our product in these stores, we have been as specific as possible.If you want the REAL ACAI JUICE, YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME OR JIM CARY.If you want to waste your money on these other products, that's your choice !!!!!!!!!! |
| April 11 Wick 12 posts | To #6. Will you please tell me the specific benefits you are experiencing by drinking your product specific Acai juice. |
| April 12 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Wick, I always had aches and pains, there gone completely.Played 7 games last weekend and 4 games yesterday, no soreness at all. I was going to have carpal tunnal on my right hand, it hurt and bother me all the time, GONE COMPLETELY !I had a ,I believe it was called a "burma" on my RIGHT elbow that had to be drained twice, my Doctor said if it comes back , he would remove it in his office, wasn't a big deal surgery, IT'S GONE, NO SURGEY NO MORE HAVING IT DRAINED, GONE COMPLETELY.Some of my friends that are taking it have lost weight and gotten more energy, but if you want to talk to someone who has had drastic results, e-mail jimcary16@hotmail.com Ask him to tell you what it did for him. All I am saying is IT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE !!!!!!!! |
| April 12 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | taits, I see your on the Acai Juice that Jim and I are taking, how is it going with you and how long have you been on it? |
| April 12 kbl Men's 60 544 posts | #6--winter hasnt been good to me. i did play indoor softball and in the last 2 months i am getting aches and pains more. i know i am getting older. now i am interested in acai and can you tell me the places to get it. internet or health stores? thanks, ken |
| April 12 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | kbl, e-mail Jim at: jimcary16@hotmail.com He can get you started, tell him Kenny told you to e-mail him.As I stated in my message above, YOU CAN'T GET THIS ACAI JUICE IN ANY HEALTH STORE.You can go to www.ebacai.com E-mail Jim and listen to what he has to say about his results, you will not believe it.Here"s to good health. Kenny |
| April 12 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | DonB, I cannot tell you if earths bounty acai is what it says it is but I can tell you two things. It costs more than what I am taking and they dont talk about its ORAC score and is definitely not ORAC certified. Only Brunswick labs can certify ORAC score, it isnt costly for the company but if your product isnt certified there is no way to be sure what it is, its unregulated. To date, the only certified acai comes from www.ebacai.com |
| April 12 Dbax Men's 65 2101 posts | How convenient that the only Acai product that works, is the crap that these guys are selling. Don't be fooled. |
| April 13 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Dbax, I will tell you one more time, if you don't want to take the Acai Juice that we are taking ---DON'T, BUT IT WORKS FOR US .IT'S NOT CRAP AND IT HAS HELPED ME AND SEVERAL OF MY FRIENDS.NO ONE IS FOOLING ANYONE, SO WHY DON'T YOU GO BOTHER SOMEONE ELSE ? |
| April 13 Dbax Men's 65 2101 posts | That's not my point. The point is you are telling people the crap you are selling is the only crap that works. B.S.! |
| April 13 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | Dbax, nobody said the Acai Juice is the only product that works. Jim said: There is a lot of misinformation out there on acai as its unregulated. The acai berry is similar in make up to a cherry. It has skin, pulp and pit or seed. If the company doesnt want their product tested and verified, they have something to hide. It may be a good product, but if they fail to get it certified, something is probably wrong. Look for the Brunswick logo and its ORAC value. I can truly say this product is having a positive affect on my life. I can also say I have not made one red cent selling this stuff. If my friends want I give it to them at my cost. As a general rule people will buy product from people they respect and trust. So if an individual meets those standards I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Indicating differences between products is comparative shopping not calling something else crap. AJ is no different than getting opinions on bats or balls. |
| April 13 Dudley Men's 60 23 posts | Ladies & Gentlemen....please check out this website for a very good acai product - www.amazonthunder.com I have been taking the Amazon Thunder Acai Pulp Puree for four months now. I drink two 1 oz servings per day. I have noticed several benefits....I sleep much better at night...I have more energy....I'm very regular now...my arthritis pain has virtually disappeared.....I'm Type 2 diabetic and my blood sugar aggregate level has dropped 10 points since I began drinking this product. It actually tastes good and is USDA certified and Union Orthodox Kosher certified. It contains 3300 ORAC units per 1 oz serving. Don't get me wrong...I'm not a representative of Amazon Thunder nor am I a distributor of this product. I just want to add my two cents to the discussion about available Acai Berry products and say that this product has worked for me. |
| April 13 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Dbax, I have NEVER said ours is the only one that works, I said the other acai is NOT THE SAME THING I AM TAKING !AND IT IS NOT !Leave me the hell alone ! softball4b, I am glad it is doing the same for you that it has done for so many others.Take care,and let me know how your doing Kenny |
| April 13 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | Please do not think I am in any way dissing any other product. There are many good products out there and like wise there are some poor products out there. I have done extensive research and have found that www.ebacai.com is the very best I can find. After reading about Amazon Thunder I have only one basic question. Why doesnt Amazon Thunder certify their products ORAC score. They make mention of the acai berry having a high ORAC score and make mention of the scientist at Brunswick labs but they do not list their score, just acai score in general. To my knowledge only www.ebacai.com has independently certified acai. I know of some who have had their product tested but not certified. Certification is an on going process done by the patented Brunswick labs. Acai is for real and it works and there are other good products out there. Amazon Thunder may be an excellent product, I hope so, its also in the price range where it should be. Its only slightly more expensive than www.ebacai.com |
| April 13 tattooball 774 posts | I feel goooood.............. |
| April 13 armiho211 Men's 70 449 posts | NEED TO HEAR FROM THE GUYS THAT HAVE TAKEN THE ACAI THAT JIM 16 AND # 6 ARE ADVERTISING. IF AFTER A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN TAKING THE JUICE YOU FEEL IT HAS NOT HELPED, PLEASE SAY SO HERE. i started taking the juice about one month ago, i am willing to take it for a few months before i give up on it. i am reserving judgement ubntil i see what it does for me. BOTTOM LINE : I'VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE. it's one of those things, ' GOT TO SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT !" |
| April 13 #13 9 posts | nick #13 I've been on the acai juice for about 3 wks Jim 16 and #6 have been advertising and it is a good product visited my dr. and my colesterol is down and my blood pressure is normal again and lots of energy and don'tfeel as sore after playing 4 or 5 games |
| April 13 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | trumpball and nick #13, glad it's helping you.Has done wonders for me. Take care, |
| April 13 Dbax Men's 65 2101 posts | Softball4b...I'm glad it is working for you. Here is #6's reply to Donb who mentions he is taking Acia...... "EVERYBODY, I keep telling you that you can't buy our product in these stores, we have been as specific as possible.If you want the REAL ACAI JUICE, YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME OR JIM CARY.If you want to waste your money on these other products, that's your choice !!!!!!!!!!" |
| April 14 Blackjack13 Men's 55 4 posts | Just to add my 2 cents worth after reading the acai posts. Check out www.monavie.com I have been on this product for 3 years and the results are amazing. It is the main reason I am still playing softball. Not only joint pain relief but many other health benefits. I know many athletes that are on MonaVie. Like some of the other products it is not sold in stores. Mona Vie has certified ORAC values and has been approved by WADA (World Anti Doping Agency) and is used by many professional and olympic athletes and teams. It has been Kosher certified, also. If you have any questions you and contact me at kcaj13@aol.com |
| April 14 Blackjack13 Men's 55 4 posts | If you want an unbiased review of acai products, check out www.acaiberryproducts.org/Mona_Vie_Active.html If you are interested in purchasing at a discount price please email me at kcaj13@aol.com |
| April 14 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | Blackjack13, Monavie is a great product and I'm happy to hear your results. Acai is truly the worlds most perfect food and I now there are many other Monavie customers very happy with the product. However, Monavie's ORAC scores are not certified, They claim its 1,300 per ounce and do not send samples for testing. Only Brunswick labs can certify ORAC scores as they have the patent. Monavie does not send samples to be tested and certified. Monavie wants its formula to be secret and avoids the test. That does not make it a poor product, its just not certified. Monavie is one of the most successful MLM's in history and their marketing is absolutely the best, its a bit expensive but worth the money. |
| April 14 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | OK SOFTBALL PLAYERS, I believe that we all know Mike Macenko is one of the BEST who has ever played this game.Go to his website, you can google Mike Macenko.Just please read what he has to say about the Acai Juice we take.ENOUGH SAID !If you don't believe Mike, there's no hope for you. |
| April 14 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Dbax, Like I said I never said the other products don't work.As you can see from the message you copied from me, I SAID IF YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THESE OTHER PRODUCTS, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.It doesn't say I said they don't work.I REPEAT SLOW SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND, THIS PRODUCT WORKS FOR US THAT ARE TAKING IT.NOW BACK TO SOFTBALL BATS OR PPR |
| April 14 Blackjack13 Men's 55 4 posts | Jim16, thanks for the email. MonaVie may not be directly certified by Brunswick but a researcher named Kimberly Day had MonaVie tested by Brunswick and the ORAC value of MonaVie was 23,323 per bottle. All you have to know is that Mona Vie has the patent on the flash freezing process of the acai berry that retains over 90% of the nutritional value. The nutritional value of the acai is very well documented. I don't really get into all the hype but I have worked in toxicology (affects of compounds on the body) research for 30 years and I have done my homework on MonaVie and the company can back up all the claims it makes. It works for me and I would not recommend a product to others that I did not believe in. In my opinion (I know) MonaVie is the best nutrition beverage available. |
| April 14 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | #6: I do not know but I do know Jim... if your intent has been to inform us as to the many health benefits of Acia, you can rest easy now because we can read. On the other hand, if you are 'selling a product', you're going about it all wrong... 'a spoon full of sugar will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar'. Now I don't know you well enough to determine what your goal might be but you do sound a bit like 'Dr Hook's Medicine Show' to me. You have given us the information that we need to make an informed decision. Now back off and let it become 'our idea'... no one likes to be beat over the head. BW |
| April 14 Blackjack13 Men's 55 4 posts | #6 These are probably all good products, so my advice is to check them out and make your decision. If you want to see the athletes that are promoting MonaVie google mona vie athletes. |
| April 14 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | the wood, Good ideal.It works for me , and if I sound like Dr.Hook's Medicine Show and I got my point across , enough said.I take it and it is the product I believe in .Now on to softball.Your topic ! |
| April 15 butch17 Men's 55 412 posts | #6 The Dr. Hook and back off is the woods sugarie side:) |
| April 15 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | butch17, I took it with a grain of salt.I know what it has done for me and my friends and relatives, so that said, anyone who wants to talk to me about it knows where I am and how to reach me. |
| April 16 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Jim, on April 10th you stated that Euro-Botanicals, Inc. produces THE ONLY ACAI product certified by Brunswick labs. Are you certain of this? Someone told me that Sambazon Acai is also certified by Brunswick. Is my information incorrect? While acai grows most freely in the Uppper and Lower Amazon regions that isn't necessarily where it is refined. Where is your product refined? Is sodium benzoate one of its active ingredients? You seem to know an awful lot about your product and you would likely know the answers to these questions. #6, I don't mean to confine these questions to Jim so feel free to join in if you know the answers. BW |
| April 17 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | Q: What certifications come with Sambazon Acai? A: Sambazon products are USDA certified organic, Orthodox Union certified Kosher and we are a member of the Fair Trade Federation. No word anywhere on their website about being certified by Brunswick Labs. |
| April 17 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Mike, I will research this further... it is my understanding that Sambazon was certified on May 21, 2008... and that there are several others that have been certified by Brunswick. However, the fact that Sambazon is USDA approved means quite a bit. Is the same true for Euro-Botanical? What is their web site? The ORAC certification, as you probably know, lends itself to the antioxidant properties of a drug or food supplement. It does not address its other properties such as its anti-inflamatory qualities... those are different tests altogether. It is this element (anti-inflam) that addresses joint fluid, etc. Are you aware of how many Acai products there are in the market place today? I'm told that there are over 1,000. BW |
| April 17 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | The company that owns the trademark for Sambazon is listed at SAMBA, INC. CORPORATION COLORADO 927 Calle Negocio Suite J San Clemente CALIFORNIA 92673. Do you know these guys, do you still have n office near there? |
| April 17 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | I just went to their website and researched the data. Sambazon is not USDA approved just certified as to be organic. I believe there are probably a 1000 plus bottom line if something works for you, then do it regardless of the branding. tomato tomatoe |
| April 17 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | No, I really have no connection with them whatsoever. In fact, your former office (off Calle Del Cerro) is closer to them than I am. As you know, RSC is a very large commerical/industrial area. I do have an occasional commercial acai smoothie (Pipes Cafe), in lieu of lunch, and the base product happens to be Sambazon. I don't sell Sambazon or buy it in any other form. Since I've been doing so (2 months), I have dropped a few Toledos and this is the only thing that I'm doing differently so I have attributed the weight loss to acai. In addition, I use a different product (acai juice) that I bought on line from Lucky Vitamins and have been swigging it down twice per day... tasty. It's too early to tell if I'm receiving benefits from it... only started with it 10 days ago. However, I did toss out my Viagra... not because acai has so many benefits but rather because I've lost interest in sex... just kidding. BW |
| April 17 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | My wife must have switched to your brand because she tells me the same thing. Except she just hired a pool boy and we don't have a pool. I just thought it was funny when i went to the patent/trademark office and they are listed out of San Clemente. Small world. |
| April 18 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | I believe Sambazon sells their products through the common distribution system and the end users are cafes, resturants, etc. There is also a Mexican resturant on the south end of town that offers Sambazon smoothies... I know this because they both have posted Sambazon signs. Were they to switch to a different product it would make no difference to me. According to information that was sent to me (Mike, you were copied on it)Sambazon does indeed have ORAC certification from Brunswick Labs. Also, there are several others as well. The list only includes those companies that allow their ORAC results to be published. Again, ORAC testing is not the 'end all, be all' measure of acai. There is also its anti-inflam values. My point in bringing this to light was to let the readers here know that Euro-Botanicals isn't the only ORAC certified producer. Having stated all of this, it seems to me that the real issue is whether someone uses acai or not... not that they use any one specific product. The fact that there are web site or MB testimonials is great but it doesn't mean that they wouldn't get similar results from another acai product. After all, there are over 1,000 to choose from. I know that Ron Parnell felt really strongly about Monavie. Others have expressed the same view. Different strokes for different folks... and I have no financial ax to grind on this topic. BW |
| April 18 king of pain 10 posts | just wondering..my wife takes "xango" ,mangosteen juice, and it works wonders for her headaches ..but not much more.does this juice have any effects like that? myself, after 6 knee surgery,s and 4 shoulder surgery,s was wondering if this stuff would help me with the pain..thoughts?? |
| April 19 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | KOP: I'm not sure which product you mean when you say 'this stuff' (mangosteen or acai)but, given your orthopedic history, I doubt that either would hurt you. However, I have already exceeded my limits of expertise. Having had several athroscopic surgeries of my own, I prefer to take natural anti-inflams rather than synthetic ones such as Mobic. I do occasionally take the latter when my pain is acute. I haven't been using acai long enough to offer you much insight as it relates to joint relief. I do believe that I have lost a little weight because of it... this does have its indirect benefits with joint relief. You can go directly to the Brunswick Labs web site and learn a lot of stuff about acai, antioxidants, anti-inflams, mangosteen, scientific method, etc. www.brunswicklabs.com BW |
| April 19 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | Bob, I've been to Oklahoma playing ball and havent been on here for a while. I see some great comments from you. I cannot with certaincy say that www.ebacai.com has the only certified acai as Brunswick labs does not endorse or list its certified customers. There may be one out there that I havent found or for that matter that EB hasnt found either. However, the word tested and certified are two different categories. Certified means that the company REGULARLY sends in its product for Brunswick to test and therefore is certified. I still have yet to find another ACAI that is certified. There are other products certified, not acai and acai's that claim to have been tested but not cetified. I've been told that because of these uses of semantics that Bunswick is close to a decision to publish their list of certifications. I'm sure there are other acai products that are very good but we cannot be sure of their makeup because of no certification. Also, USDA approved means basicly that the facility making the product is clean, and in no way means its been tested for any of its makeup. There are so many misleading statements made by unregulated companies that we must beware as buyers. I know my acai is a great product, I've taken it, relied on its certification and had MIRACULOUS results. My closest friends know my experiences and I would never share all of them here, it would lead to senior players not believing my health gains, too numerous and just not believable, true but hard to believe. I would quickly back off of the certification issue if someone could find another acai that is certified, so far I havent seen one and hope that Brunswick will soon release the information. Jim 903 236 3459 |
| April 19 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | the wood, Have been out of pocket.I see Jim16 answered your question, hope it helps.Just want to clarify something, there are A LOT of products out there and anyone should take what they feel is the best for them, That is why I am taking this acai juice, because it has helped me and several of friens, players and relatives. Good Health to you. |
| April 20 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Jim, your miraculous results are good to hear but I've heard the same from folks that use other acai products. I'm surprised at your obsession with the ORAC numbers since it is but one measure of the 'healing powers' of acai. If you take the time to read more of the information contained on the Brunswick Labs web site (such as the blurbs about anti-inflam) you will understand the comprehensive picture. However, just to be clear, if I produce evidence that shows that other acai products are certified, you will 'quickly back off the certification issue'. To me this is bit like judging a car on its suspension and ignoring the rest. So, am I correct in my assumption about the certification proof? BW |
| April 20 crewmember Men's 65 13 posts | There are many factors effecting the ORAC teasting as I understand. One might want to review both medical and scientific research posted on PubMed.com and compare Acai with Mangosteen / Xanthones. |
| April 20 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Crew member: You are absolutely correct... if you're seeking strong antioxidant benefits, go on the very web site touted by Jim16, Brunswicklabs.com On the home page look and near the center bottom find the horizontal bar with the rotating phrases. Click on it and then look through the companies and products. The aqau-colored circular seal indicates that it has been tested and certified by Brunswick (you'll only see this when you get to a specific product). It also states which property was the basis of the testing, ORAC or otherwise. You can then click on the link on the right hand side and see for yourself. Some of the products might not be acai, some are. But if it's high ORAC value you're chasing, there is a large number of choices. Not all companies want their products linked to the lab... After following the link, you can also learn the active ingredients in that particular product. As an example, find the MXI menu of products and pick 'XOCAI' and follow through with it. It is there for anyone that really WANTS to find it. BW |
| April 21 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | Bob, As I posted earlier Brunswick labs said that they were going to begin to list their customers and now they have done it. I've spent about 2 hours on their website and have examined all of the companies listed. You are correct when you say that some companies do not want to be listed. I have done my best to look at each product and most do not want to list their scores. Of those that chose to show their scores www.ebacai.com had the highest score by quite a margin. The one you listed is only a fraction of EB's. Most listed arent acai. Brunswick certifies "what it says on the bottle, is in the bottle". The products listed do not score nearly as high as EB's acai. Bob, Thanks for finding this and again, if you find an acai certified product that beats ours I will "back down". EB is actually working right now to get an even higher score. The big sellers are not close to EB's but some are still good products. Anti Oxidents in any form will will help senior players, so if you are taking any certified anti oxident product, keep it up. |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Jim, You made a statement that only 'your product' was certified. I replied to this stating that, based upon the information that I had, there are other companies that have been certified. Now you want to come back and say that it has to be an 'acai product'. Have you looked at the list of ingredients in your own product? Try looking through those other products listed and see for yourself. Start with Novelle and MXI. Here is my primary point... there are a whole bunch of other fish in the same sea... Here are a couple more facts... high ORAC value, which you use as the 'be all, end all' measure, can be obtained from lots of different fruit extracts... Brunswick Labs, which you frequently quote, has the data that addresses all of these points. The ORAC testing is done in such a way as to compare the product's results against vitamin E... there are 6 different radicals that antioxidants need to mitigate in order to really be considered effective rahter than potentially effective. Initially, Brunswick only tested against 2 of them (peroxyl and hydroxyl). BL is currently adding to this but until all 6 are incorporated into their tests, it's hard to say how effective a product will be when used by a human being. This info is available if you want it. There are other measures of acai that have zero to do with ORAC and are very important. Yet you never acknowledge any of them. You need to first understand that an ORAC value is essentially a quantitative way to state the 'potential' of any product to work in person's body the way it was shown to work in a lab. Know this, the ORAC testing is done 'in vitro'... i.e. outside the body. There is no guarantee that it performs the same 'in vivo' (inside the body). But let's assume that it does and let's further assume that all of the non-ORAC features/properties are irrelevant. There are still products out there with 'high 3,000' ORAC numbers. Jim, you initially said that only EB has been certified by Brunswick... then you said that if someone could prove that there were others, you'd 'back off'... now you're saying that if someone can prove that there are other certified companies AND that their ORAC score is higher than EB's, you'll back off. I'm not doing any further research until you actually do answer one of my questions, contrary to what # 6 stated and which you have failed to do thus far. The questions are on this thread... such as the sodium benzoate thing and the other active ingredients of your product. You can learn an awful lot from the Brunswisk Lab web site if you use it with an open mind. This thread began with DonB asking about information supporting/detracting a 100% acai juice that he found at a nearby health food store. Is your product anywhere near a 100% acai juice. BW |
| April 22 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | the wood, Since you brought up #6, I will give you my input on your above message.If you go back and look what I told DonB, it says this is not the Acai Juice that we take, AND IT'S NOT ! I said the Acai Juice WE TAKE CAN'T BE BOUGHT IN H.E.B., HEALTH STORES OR ANY WHERE ELSE EXCEPT FROM ONE OF US OR THE WEB SITE THAT JIM HAS LISTED ON HERE COUNTLESS TIMES.AS I HAVE STATED IT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE, MY FRIENDS LIVES AND MY RELATIVES LIVES. SO THE BOTTOM LINE FROM FROM IS, I BELIEVE IN IT, I TAKE IT AND I SHARE MY RESULTS TO THOSE WHO ASK. IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT AND I AM ON IT FOR LIFE.YOU CAN KEEP ON DOING ALL THE RESEARCH YOU WANT, FOR ME AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE IT WORKS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TAKING IT. WORKS !!! |
| April 22 Dbax Men's 65 2101 posts | #6, you just don't get it. And why are you yelling? |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | #6: I brought you up because YOU are the one that stated that Jim16 had answered my questions. He has not. I did the research because Jim asked me to show him that there are other certified companies, etc. I have done so. If it works for you, that's great. If you continue taking it, that's fine, too. The thing is, #6, I could care less what YOU do. But the other people on this MB deserve to know the truth about acai in general and ORAC in particular. Neither you or Jim have answered any of the tough questions about your product. I never figured that you could or would but I did believe that Jim could... most notably, what % of your product is acai? To quote you, # 6, from April 14 'LET ME SPEAK SLOWLY SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT'... WHAT IS THE ACAI CONTENT IN YOUR PRODUCT? Before you get too flustered and start spitting on yourself, recognize that this refers to Jim's point of April 21 'what it says on the bottle, is in the bottle'. BW BW |
| April 22 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | the wood, I will try ONE more time,I don't care what is in my Acai Juice !!PERIOD , END OF MY DISCUSSION WITH YOU !I take this product as I have told you over and over again, BECAUSE IT WORKS FOR US ! I don't know what's inside my bat, but I wouldn't change it either.I wear Tanel shoes, wouldn't change them either.If you want to discuss Acai Juice further, please do it with Jim.You keep beating this dog to death and I am happy with my product and EVERYONE WHO IS TAKING THIS, IS HAPPY ! |
| April 22 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | Dbax, sorry I left you out, I get it ! I take it and it works ! |
| April 22 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | I can't believe I am having this conversation. Yes, There are lot of other fish in the sea, but if you want Tuna why buy catfish. Both products you mention, MXI and Novelle are not Acai. MXI is chocolate. Now I am not dissing chocolate, it may really be healthy but its not acai and they dont talk about its ORAC score. Novelle is also not chocolate nor is it acai. Acai has other properties not related to its ORAC score and its the main reason I take it. The main reason I take it is that I tried it and amazing things began to happen. Also as I formerly stated that Brunswick doenst list its customers but have very recently been prodded to do so. I looked everywhere I could and researched every company I could find without Brunswick disclosing its customers. I was unable to find any acai that was certified, that didnt mean one didnt exist, it meant I searched and didnt find one. I still havent found one that can even compare with Euro Botanicals. This thread argues with me and every product mentioned doesnt make it. Bob, you just mentioned two and neither is even acai. The previous posters who mentioned products werent certified. Bob, please dont do anymore research, I dont want to talk about other companies and their products. MXI and Novelle have good products and I am convinced that they are what the bottle says it is, thats why Brunswick labs is important to the health comminity. I want acai and I want a high ORAC score. The regional hospital in my town and the oncologists I know want acai. No other product is being sold in any hospital that I know of like our acai. Now if you find some hospital somewhere that sells one of our competitors products, I will listen. That doesnt mean that if you find a hospital gift shop that sells snickers and since snickers is chocolate you win the argument. I'm still here, find a certified acai that comes close to our product and I will acknowledge it. Please no chocolate. As for 100 percent acai, I've covered that. Its really cheap to buy the worthless 100 percent acai seeds and sell it as 100 percent acai. It is what it is. I have adamantly stated that there are other good products out there and if you are taking one with good results, continue to take it. DO NOT dis my product with a little knowlede and a little research. Some of your statements are right off the page of some of the non certified ineffective products out there that try to confuse you. The SCIENTIFIC study done by the Univ of Fla is pretty clear, yes it was done in a lab, not the human body but I dont see anyone or any Univ studying the cancer fighting qualities of chocolate. I am getting ready to leave on a softball weekend and I wont be checking this board for a few days. Get healthy! |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Actually, # 6, I WAS discussing acai with Jim until you threw your hat back into the ring on April 19. I sense that you're frustrated but you only have yourself to blame. Learn more about the product that you sell... or don't try to sell it over the internet. Let ME try one more time to help YOU... if you don't like the heat, stay away from the kitchen. You continuously make comments that you seem to forget later. Unfortunately for you, they are still shown above. BW |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Jim, I'm not dissing your product as much as I'm dissing the 'marketing smoke screen' that you keep throwing out there... high ORAC scores. It has nowhere near the importance that you have tried to imply. But you have yet to answer any questions relating to your product's ingredients and I doubt that this will change... so I will not request this from you any more. I will make you a deal, one that you can actually keep... I will do more research as long as you don't make misleading statements. Fair enough? BW |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Jim: Correction to the last paragraph - 'I will do NO more research'... my fault. BW |
| April 22 #6 Men's 60 1173 posts | the wood, No comment, have a great weekend. I am going to Baytown to play ball.If you want to argue, please find someone else. ITS WHAT IT IS !Just for the record, did you see some posts about people who are taking this product ? It's amazing how we can all be having positive results, and you keep researching. Good luckwith your research.I am done. Kenny |
| April 22 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | # 6: Thank you. BW |
| April 23 jim16 Men's 65 180 posts | I am extremely offended by the statement that I have given misleading information on his board. I HAVE NOT. I am taking a product that works, a product that is the finest in the industry, a product that has the highest certified scores in its class. ORAC value is VERY important in rating these products. ORAC stands for oxygen Radical Absorption capacity. This is a measure of how well the body can use the anti aging anti oxidents. There is only one way to verify our ability to obtain the anti aging qualities and that is through Brunswick labs. To say that is unimportant or to say I've made misleading statements offends me. This product has worked for me and it has done extremely positive things for me and I've hesitated to list what its done for me because it may not do that for someone else. I have had a number of incredible things happen and if anyone wants to hear first hand what its done for ME they can call. I make no medical promises to anyone. # 6 has posted regularly on here because he has had some positive results too. I know him and I vouch for his credibility. There are others who read this board regularly who also have had positive reults and are hesitant to post because they fear they too will be attacked by a member who for one reason or another believe we are selling "snake oil". So be it, bottom line is that there are a number of good products out there and some that are not so good. Our bodies need anti oxidents, that is absolutely scientificly sound. Its how our bodies fight aging and very few of us get enough antioxidents in our system. I am getting enough and its made a difference. I am extremely happy with the product and I reccomend it to others. If anyone wants to hear how its helped me, call me. No sales hype just testimony. Jim 903 236 3459 |
| April 23 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | well not sure who to believe on this subject,but you all seem to be passionate about your products.my question is,is there a place to get a sample without haveing to give up your first child(i understand all these products are expensive),and this includes all not just jim and #6.now please don't come at me with the "well how much do you think your health is worth talk". |
| April 23 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Mad Dog: I am not selling a product... there are over 1,000 acai products on the market. It matters not to me which one you buy. I do not have a financial ax to grind. Jim: You can be as 'extremely offended' as you choose. I have not expressed any doubt for the miraculous results that you and your friends have experienced. Since you have failed to answer any questions about the content of your product while claiming to know that of others, I feel that you are not telling the whole story. Nonetheless, your product may well be a good one. But it isn't the only good one out there or the only 'real acai'. You have thrown the ORAC score and Brunswick Labs out there as if you're on a first name basis. If science knowledge were karate you'd only know enough to take a first grade beating. Yet you continue to 'speak before thinking' in your efforts to market your product. You stated that there was only one product certified by Brunswick. Untrue. You have dissed other products in saying that they weren't really acai. I presume that you feel this way because they contain other fruit mixes. Still, all the while, you continue to ignore the fact that your product has a lot of non-acai fruit juices in its formula but somehow this is ok. You continue to ignore the fact that ORAC testing is not at all comprehensive because of the testing environment and because of the fact that not all free radicals ( a total of 6) are represented. This is a little like comparing pitching ERAs of guys that have each only pitched 1 2/3 innings. These are a few of the reasons that I used the term 'misleading statements'. Get over it. Stick with the testimonials because you do not seem to grasp the big picture when it comes to the ORAC scores and their place in the science of acai. Or, worse, you do understand them and you opt to ignore them. Either way, you have misled the readers here and it's wrong to do so. You have also ignored the disclaimer letter that Brunswick has on its own web site. In it, they clearly state that 'ORAC testing is not comprehensive and comparative results should not be used in marketing efforts... doing so is not in the best interest of good science'. Jim, you continue to make nebulous comments, one after the other, but you have yet to offer ANY FACTUAL DATA as to the content of your product. To tell you the truth, this offends me but I will get over it. As I stated, had you been content with just providing testimonials in your effort to 'educate us', I might have been tempted to buy your product. As you will recall, I did phone you several weeks ago asking about how I might obtain it. Once you threw in the ORAC card (on this thread) it caused me to pause and reflect. You are correct about our bodies needing antioxidants. This could come in the form of synthetic vitamins (as an example, vitamin e) or it could come from fruit extracts, such as acai. It doesn't HAVE TO come from the very product that you offer. To suggest otherwise is to GROSSLY misrepresent. Give it a rest on the ORAC stuff, Jim. BW |
