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Discussion: what is the best bat u can use in 50's?

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Jan. 31, 2010
ricky33
37 posts
what is the best bat u can use in 50's?
and can u use the miken ultra's. thanks for any advice.
Jan. 31, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
IMO the U-2 is a good one and is allowed. But there are others as good or close. It's not just the bat, but the batter and other factors.
Go play ball and have some fun.
Jan. 31, 2010
ricky33
37 posts
thanks taits, who makes the u-2,
Jan. 31, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
Miken But I doubt you'll find it at your sporting good store... Look at label ad above or on line at Anaconda, Kellys sports etc. They are all over actually, & on Ebay. About 169 to 199.
Feb. 1, 2010
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
You might want to consider the yellow Combat. IMO it's the equal of the UltraII in perforance, but much more durable. The last three Ultras that I've had have lasted about 300-350 hits. I've had two yellow Combats that have lasted over 1000 hits. The Combat comes in end load as well as balanced. Get with some of your pals who have a variety of bats and see which ones you like the best. If the long ball isn't a concern, there are a lot of other good bats out htere. Good Luck
Feb. 1, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
Good point, May want to consider the Grey Combat as well then. I only mentioned the U-2 because that was what he was interested in.
Feb. 2, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1993 posts
For U2 users it is not all ego, E4/E6, it is hard to fight a machine gun with a Saturday Night Special. I trust the day is coming for sanity in our game again.
Feb. 2, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
855 posts
Webbie, No one said it was all ego, I said if you are a power guy with ego and want the 400' + shots.
I agree with you, I own 3 U2's for the very reason you mentioned, but would give them up in a heartbeat to bring defense back to the game.

Feb. 2, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
I feel ego is really only with a few overall .
Does it really matter if a ball flies over a 300-325 foot fence by 75 feet or more, when just the one or two that will do just fine and reap the same HR or an OUT for a GOOD HIT?
DEFENSE, give the pitcher more latitude in height, maybe even in moves.
Feb. 2, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
855 posts
Scott,
tell Joe that. =)
That was my point, I dont care if I only hit it 300'.1" if thats all it takes. I dont need the monster shots the U2 offers. Like everyone who swings a Senior bat and gets their hits with them, I'll continue to use mine.
I dont know this as fact but I would be willing to bet most infielders now play much further back then they ever have, to have a chance at anything hit on the ground. This being the case most 3rd & SS have what used to be routine plays taken away. We now need cannons to make those same plays.
The positive if there is one is the bats and balls have made us keep ourselves in far better condition then we probably would have. imo
Feb. 2, 2010
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
In my humble opinion, It really only effects those warning track hitters who become HR hitters with the senior bats. If you hit HR's, then they are goin out anyway........If your a line drive hitter, NSA bats like the Freak plus and Eastons Synergy do just as well. Not since the original grey Ultra which made everyone a power hitter....(Now that was a game changer)...has the bat freaks making decisions based solely on personal preference. We all have different experiences with different bats. I break combats and Ultra max loads seem to be durable for me. Heck just buy one of each. LOL
Feb. 2, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
HR's are sweet, but base hits are real deal.
Surely you jest about Joe having an ego... But he does play well.
Many players don't have the power anyway to go over, but perhaps the bat in the bag helps with playing attitude.
Ones physical 'condition' is not necessarily reflex enhancement which is usually mental as well.
I play 1st &3rd as well and used to play even or in front of the bag, Now I'm about 10 or so behind it near where the lip is for the grass.
Feb. 2, 2010
Webbie25
Men's 60
1993 posts
You have it, Taits--I am proud to be known as both a good base hitter and a power hitter. You can't play inside the bag either way any more-it's sure suicide. Even in the outfield the weaker hitters have to be respected by several feet more.Freaks are just fine.
Feb. 2, 2010
Omar Khayyam
1003 posts
E4/E6 makes the same observation I do—infielders are playing a LOT farther back...and since most don't have a real cannon, they lose a lot of outs at first. On artificial turf, where the lip is not an issue, I have seen infielders beyond the "dirt".

That means infielders, who on average are better fielders than pitchers and have time to get set before the pitch, are playing 75 to 85 feet back. The pitcher is at 50! Sure, he can run back, but 25, 30, 35 feet back?! Not likely. And the power hitters just advise him to armor up or play somewhere else! It's sad what the super bats have done to ruin the balanced game.

Love my U2, but would dump it in a minute if it and similar composites were banned in the interest of an improved game with balanced emphasis on defense, base running, strategy and pitching.
Feb. 3, 2010
Paco13
374 posts
Omar, I agree with you. I have the original ASA stamp UII and a nicely broken in Grey combat. I will very gladly give my technologically found power for a more balance game, as you stated. Sad that we infielders are almost a zero to the left...due to the bat/ball combination. JMO.
Feb. 3, 2010
taits
Men's 65
4396 posts
Omar,
Having the time for a pitcher to move back it not as easy as the other infielders.
One reason I'm in favor of unlimited arc maybe even allow the moves as in other assns. (Other that maybe fakes throws) The higher arc would allow the pitcher more time to move back and set himself.
As for low end, set it to the pitchers head. If ball goes over it its good, No need to worry about a measuring stick, for its the pitchers height. If it goes over it its good and no worry about the height at top end. Should have no problems with "flat or too high limit' calls.
Be it a tall guy or short one that's the bottom end.
This was one remark I had on SPA's poll.
No meat ball pitches.
Feb. 3, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
686 posts
I am under the opinion that a Pitcher should be allowed to pitch as far back as he would like. If he can throw strikes from second base so be it. Stay within the width of the rubber and go back as far as you like. I do not have a problem with that.I agree that the bats do take away from the fielding because you either make the play or you do not. There is not much of a chance to move left or right on a well hit ball. The balls that are hit one step either way are the plays a defense has to make. If you use ASA approved bats it is my opinion that you have a better chance of making a play on the lesser hit ball than you do on a lesser ball hit with the senior bats.I do not want to see the game reduced to zero offense. There is a reason that the ball is thrown under handed. You get your runs and we will get ours and the most runs win. Thanks Harry #20
Feb. 3, 2010
birdie
Men's 60
686 posts
We have a tendency to get away from the original thread on this board. I vote for the Miken Ultra 11. Thanks Harry
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