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Discussion: BORDER RULE

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Sept. 1, 2010
Dbax
Men's 60
1262 posts
BORDER RULE
Kudos for SSUSA for making the correct decision on this issue.
Sept. 1, 2010
Stretch14
Men's 50
185 posts
You want to explain yourself. The correct decision on the border rule?
Sept. 1, 2010
Dbax
Men's 60
1262 posts
Read the sticky post above which is highlighted in color. Ca. and Fl. players can play outside their state with bordering states, but bordering state players cannot play in Ca. or Fl. They also made exceptions for players that have been on their teams for two years.
Sept. 1, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
702 posts
Another illogical rule not thought through for seniors to adhere to. There are enough idiot rules for seniors in softball. It sort of sounds OK, until the 2 year transition period passes. After the 2 year transition period, you can say good bye to your friends/teammates that retired in Arizona or Nevada and whom you played softball with for many years. This will occur a lot in the 60's and 65's, when many of us decide to retire and many leave California to move to other bordering states.

Now, California teams cannot have players from bordering states on their team after the 2 year transition period, nor any new players at any time beginning November 1, 2010. YET, bordering states can draw players from California.

Who makes up these nonsense rules? Just like we seniors wanted Ultra II's and good softballs, we can stand together with our friends/teammates and reverse this idiot rule. Some may say it is fine because there is a 2 year period, but after the 2 years, you will feel the pinch and sadness of not playing again with some of your friends/teammates.

I think someone with a good head on their shoulders can come up with a better solution that this. Think about it guys, too many changes/ratings are thrown down our throats, where no one used their head or common sense. If there is something that I misinterpreted, then I will apologize.

Just my opinions,

Andy Smith,
Double Edge,
60 Major
Sept. 1, 2010
Jawood
Men's 50
791 posts
The buddies that are playing together now in California and Florida should be able to play together from now until they don't want to or can't play the game anymore. Also if these two states can't pick from bordering states, then bordering states shouldn't be allowed to pick from them.

Sept. 2, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Seems pretty obvious its another RUTH less rule enacted to strengthen bordering states, like maybe Washington,as an example.
Regardless it will certainly deplete Ca of her better players. Since Fl is a known retirement state, I'm not sure it will affect them quite as much.
Must be nice to own so much.
Sept. 2, 2010
Duke
Men's 60
702 posts
E4/E6,

Nobody owns us though. If there are so many California/Florida players to have to make border rules, then we have the upper hand, especially with all of these other organizations available this year. If we stand together, then they will reconsider. There is more at stake for them, than there is for us. I am talking $$$$$$$$$. That says it all!!

Thank you as well Jawood for your comments too. Let's all chime in here guys and let them know how we feel. There is power in numbers. Or is that dollar signs? LOL!

Andy Smith,
Double Edge,
60 Major
Sept. 2, 2010
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
I stand with fellow players
and I haven't heard from one player
who thinks California standing alone
is a good idea.
Sept. 2, 2010
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Andy I agree with you, no one owns us, however we do not own SSUSA but we do support her.
Numbers dont always equate to having the upper hand.
Lightening their wallets may have some impact though.
Sept. 2, 2010
Dbax
Men's 60
1262 posts
When I say "kudos" for the right decision, I was referring to the fact that orginally SSUSA was going to close the Ca. and Fl. borders period. This would have totally sucked. I did not see the reason, and neither did anyone else.

That's when players started suggesting alternatives, such as a "grandfather" system, or that Ca. players can play out of borders, but borders cannot play in Ca.

I guess our input had some merit, because that was what was decided. The Tucson Bandits have a couple of Ca. players, and we would hate to lose them.

Still, no one really understands why this rule came about to begin with.
Sept. 2, 2010
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Lightening their wallets is the only way to change things. Strike, don't support. Equality for Everyone. Play more league games.
Sept. 2, 2010
Eddie12
14 posts
Dbax you are 100% right.If anyone really thinks about closeing the borders of Californa and Florida they would come to the conclusion that the rule would only lower the total number of teams playing! Ed Gorry Fangrabbers/Lonesharks #12
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