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Discussion: reebok vis a vis ultra....a year later

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Oct. 14, 2011
udaplaya
91 posts
reebok vis a vis ultra....a year later
Ok, around this time last year, the new Reeboks senior bats were first introduced. Most new product offerings go through a few hiccups, and we have been made aware of the Reeboks via this board. (By the way, Reebok owes that one guy who is on this board a bonus as he kept a lid on it when things went sideways earlier this year.) At this point, it appears that the bugs have been worked out, so.....

Did Reebok met its goal of making as good as or a better performing bat, with improved durability, than the Miken, or is it just the same bat in a different wrapper? Is it clearly better? Not as good?

I don't have a dog in this fight, i am just asking as a comsumer. Is it just personal preference, or is Reebok the new king of the hill? I am tryign to "baby" my remaining bats, one miken and one worth, through the worlds, but after that i need to decide what i will be using next year.

Any informed insight from my fellow players?

Thanks in advance.
Oct. 14, 2011
saddlebrookrick
55 posts
I have a bal.27oz reebok that has developed a small crack with approx. 275-300 hits on it. I did use u2's before and my last new u2 lasted 80 hits. First 75 hits on reebok I wasn't crazy about it, but since then I like it better than any u2 I've had and I've owned 8. I would grade the reebok the best bat I've ever owned except for the original grey ultra. Others may not agree,but thats my experience.
Oct. 14, 2011
udaplaya
91 posts
thank you for the feedback, that was the sort of comments i was looking for...
Oct. 14, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
397 posts
The issue with me was durability. Last year I went through 4 Miken Ultra II. I got no more than 120 swings out of any of them. I have owned 2 Reebok Melee Legends and got 410 swings out of the 1st one, and I have 300 swings on the second one and its still going strong. I'm a big guy, 6'5" 280lbs so durability for me goes a long way. Right now I have to say that the Reebok has won this battle.
Oct. 14, 2011
CallaVett
Men's 50
44 posts
I bought a Reebok and a NIW Ultra II (ASA stamped) this winter, I broke the wrappers off both in May. The Ultra II started to crack in July and Reebok is still intact. I feel I get a little more distant out of the Reebok but not a lot.

The graphics are just about completely gone from the Reebok. They started coming off within 10 hits. I plan on buying another Reebok this winter and don't plan on replacing the Miken.

I think the Reebok has a slight edge on the Miken in both performance and durability.
Oct. 14, 2011
Tater50
Men's 60
336 posts
udaplayer: I have an ASA stamped 30 oz U2 that has lasted since 07; I swing fairly hard, but have never used it in weather below 60.

Have not tried the Reebok yet, since several guys on our team have broken theirs.

Tater50
Oct. 14, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
I received one of the first 26oz Meelee ELs. It was the hottest bat that I've used. The Ultra II maxload is a close second. The last four black Ultra II's lasted about 350 to 400 hits. The last red Ultra lasted about 150 hits.

The first Meelee broke in about 100 hits. Reebok replaced it with another that lasted exactly 61 hits. Yes,I counted. I'm 5'11" and 175lbs. so I'm not exactly a crusher. I've heard of some big hitters who had gotten 500 - 800 hits out of theirs, but, unfortunately, I'm not one of them.

I love the Reebok's performance but I can't afford the durability.
Oct. 14, 2011
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
i still think the combats have the best overall rating,to include pop,durability.i have only broke one in 4 years of owning them.it was the second one i ever bought(feb 07) and had well over 1k swings on it,lasted 18 months from buy date.i have one that i bought 4 months before that one.i have 2 yellow MM that are over 2 years old and going good.

i do have a reebok that have about 300 swings on it,it is webbing up real good,hits real good at the moment,just not sure how much more life it has,but i always have my combats for back up.......
Oct. 15, 2011
leftyfalcon
Men's 65
158 posts
CallaVett I just got a 27oz endloaded reebok graphics on it was chipping off like you said in around the 10th swings. But for some reason this 27oz broken in much faster than the 2 28oz's I have. I just got another blue combat and it hits well. Not broke in yet and can throw the ball up and reaching the 300ft. fence and sometimes over. It's hits hard liners too. I don't use the senior bats in bp after a little break in period of 50 or so swings. I bp with utrip bats that have the same feel as the senior bats.
Joe Lefty Falcon
Columbus 60's
Don't give up and pass a good time
Oct. 15, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
I agree with MD about the Combats. I have used them since the gray. They have plenty of pop and durability. While my last blue one only lasted about 450-500 hits, the previous yellow ones lasted 800-1000 hits. I quit counting the hits on my gray one which I use in BP.
Unless I get a really good deal on another bat, I think that I'm going to stick with the Combats. I love the Meelee, but can't afford it.
Oct. 15, 2011
CallaVett
Men's 50
44 posts
I like the durability I've gotten from my Reebok. I'm about the same size as hombre but a do hit the ball hard (ShaneV & JamesLG can attest to that). I'm surprised that the Reebok has out lasted my ASA stamped Ultra II. The Reebok probable has around 300-400 swings and is really hot.

I have never owned a Combat, so I can't comment on their durability. I am going to add one one to my collection for next year. Plus, I have a GSC Core coming my way when Bill gets things rolling. (I broke a NIW GSC GBA in 5 swings).

Steve
The Rock #21
Oct. 15, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
CallaVet, I ordered one of the GBA bats September, 2010. When you get yours, let me know. LOL
Oct. 15, 2011
CallaVett
Men's 50
44 posts
hombre, I have 1 GBA and owned two others. The one, I still have, is one of the early ones. It hits great and appears to be durable - still no cracks or webbing. That is why I ordered a second GBA (the one that broke). It busted on the seam, on the 5th swing, two swings later it had shark toothed.

I, also have a Veteran (one of the GBA prototypes)and it is a tank. I hit it when the temp is below 60. I think it outhits my U-trip bats but not as good as the high-end senior bats. The Veteran sounds like a wood bat when you hit it. I, also had a 2-piece GBA but traded it for a Nokona glove. I was saving it as a back-up for the Ultra & Reebok.

Good luck with the getting that GBA.

Steve
Oct. 16, 2011
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Steve, I appreciate the information. It makes me a little more optimistic. Even if it only turns out to be a good BP bat that is durable, I'll be happy. Of course, not nearly as happy as I'll be if it hits like a Meelee or Ultra. LOL
Jim
Oct. 19, 2011
DT 0
12 posts
I think there are (3) keys in bat surival 101

(1)
Oct. 19, 2011
DT 0
12 posts
(1) 65 degrees
(2) break it in with about 150 swings and only use it in games
(3) dont allow other people to use it!
Oct. 21, 2011
big cat7
Men's 50
96 posts
I got a reebok senior bat in april and didnt use it very often until my ultra maxload cracked after fifty or so swings and at first hated it.the reebok just didnt seem to have any pop and felt really funny when i hit the ball.So i took the cracked ultra and each day used it to hit the reebok, i kept rotating the reebok in my hand while hitting it with the ultra finally after about 250 hits the paint started to crack a little and the next league game i used it.Well i must say since then i put it right up there with the ultras in distance and may be even more durable.
Oct. 21, 2011
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
big cat7.........you cannot hit your bat with a cracked ultra. That makes it illegal. I would suggest that you sell it to someone to use in home-run derbies and buy yourself another. Be sure to have a witness to the sale. That way no one can make that accusation.
Oct. 21, 2011
mad dog
Men's 65
3958 posts
well must say mine(reebok) went bye-bye today.i only hit in above 70 degrees and no balls above the 44-375,balls were ASA or senior assoc which the balls are the same spec as ASA.i got approx 400 swings and 150 were to just get it broke in,sorry reebok sticking with my combats........
Oct. 25, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
903 posts
I started hitting the Reebok one year ago at "Worlds". Used it at "Winter Worlds" and throughout this past season. I believed in it from the beginning because I saw what it could do compared to the UII I had been using for 10 years.

I worked with the 40's, 50's, 55's, 60's, 65's and 70's at our Reebok hitting tent and the overwhelming response from players was positive. Not only did they like the Melee's, but they loved our Vector ASA bat. I let them swing my personal bat and it got over 1,100 swings on it from every kind of player and a lot big guys. No cracks, no breaks and is clearly a solid and performance bat that you can hit in colder weather.

As I told players who visited our hitting tent, everyone making composite bats, are making good bats. I'm still a believer in our Reebok bats and the proof is in the product.

Thanks to everyone who stopped by to visit us and to hit our bats. Have a great 2012!
Ed Andrews
Oct. 25, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
903 posts
I started hitting the Reebok one year ago at "Worlds". Used it at "Winter Worlds" and throughout this past season. I believed in it from the beginning because I saw what it could do compared to the UII I had been using for 10 years.

I worked with the 40's, 50's, 55's, 60's, 65's and 70's at our Reebok hitting tent and the overwhelming response from players was positive. Not only did they like the Melee's, but they loved our Vector ASA bat. I let them swing my personal bat and it got over 1,100 swings on it from every kind of player and a lot big guys. No cracks, no breaks and is clearly a solid and performance bat that you can hit in colder weather.

As I told players who visited our hitting tent, everyone making composite bats, are making good bats. I'm still a believer in our Reebok bats and the proof is in the product.

Thanks to everyone who stopped by to visit us and to hit our bats. Have a great 2012!
Ed Andrews
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