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Discussion: Illegall Bats

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April 15, 2012
Capt Kirk
410 posts
Illegall Bats
Is there a list for banned bats that SSUSA maintains?
The only section of the SSUSA rulebook that addresses approved Bats states:
"3.4 (4) APPROVED BATS
All bats marked 1.21 BPF or below, SSUSA approved bats, or
bats having an ASA 2000 or 2004 stamp are approved for use. Any
bat displaying the label Exceeds 1.21 BPF is not approved. The
rating must be clearly visible on the bat, or it must be obvious to the
inspector that the bat is of an age to make it not High-Tech."
Note: Is the yellow rip it bat an approved bat? by SSUSA?
April 15, 2012
kbl
Men's 60
529 posts
Capt Kirk.....womens, titanium, and original Miken bats.....i think this is the list of SSUSA non-approved bats.....ken
April 15, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
Only about half dozen of them but do a search here and they are somewhere, Here are a few:
Both orig Grey Ultras, Yellow elite bat with no stamps from Rip IT. All the Titaniums, & a couple others I forget names of.

Too bad Miken didn't still make the bal version of the grey orig because I think it would pass the 1.21 standard now. But not the EL. Even the Yellow Elite might pass the standard since it was designed by Gatley when he was with Rip It. He did these for Miiken according at a long phone conversation I had with him when he was at Rip It.
Think too the Ti's would pass now.
Hope that helps somewhat.
April 15, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
I feel the book lacks the naming of specific bats, since the list is short and not like the multiple pages list of bats ASA has.
April 15, 2012
SSUSA Staff
1302 posts
Illegal Bats:
ANY slow pitch softball bat NOT having the BPF rating sticker/imprint visibly displayed, after having passed lab testing to certify to SSUSA compliance;
ANY altered bat (separate Rulebook sections), including 'shaved' or 'rolled' bats;
Fast-pitch softball bats;
The original Miken Ultra (gray one often referred to as the 'Miken I');
Yellow Rip-It;
Canadian (SPN) Blue ComBat from about 5 or so years ago (only about 335 manufactured);
Boombah (blue bat) that had a BPF 1.205 under the old BPF 1.20 testing standard.
April 15, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4395 posts
Thank you "Staff".
One of those Combats was found used in a Fremont T back around then, and withdrawn from games. I was there.
Shouldn't Boombah be ok now since it's below new 1.21 ??? yes\no ??? I have not seen one around.
I thought there was one other that started with a T but that was also before 1.21 came into effect.
April 15, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
Finding illegal bats as defined by Staff is easy.
Is there technology which should be mandated so that it is either impossible to shave or roll a bat or, alternatively, technology which would clear exhibit itself when a shaved or rolled bat was used? It is probably in the best interest of the manufacturers not to develop this technology since I understand that a shaved or rolled bat will fail much more quickly and thus generate more sales. W/o any knowledge, it just seems to me that technology could prevent doctored bats.
April 15, 2012
tattooball
621 posts
Hj you will see that technology very soon.
April 15, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
Which technology:
1. Technology which will show the bat doctored;
2. Technology which will make it impossible to shave a bat;
3.Technology which will make it impossible to roll a bat;and/or
4. Some combination thereof.
April 16, 2012
mad dog
Men's 65
3948 posts
yep CK..if it doesn't have a bpf 1.20/1.21 on the bat,it is not legal for play in senior ball,along with the banned ones...in realality tho,the titanium should be allowed as they are no where near as hot as what we use now.....

also don't know what a womans bat is,only one i knew maybe was the lady virus.they are all softball bats,there is no difference in the way they are tested,they all get tested the same way.......
April 16, 2012
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
If , the new "Core" bat ever materializes and is as good as the other senior bats , this will be a moot point . No endcap . So cannot be shaved . Hard to believe other bat co`s will not buy him out or copy him . Hard to make it when you are a small co. competing against big dollars . Would be nice if it did come to fruition . Would become an overnite success . Everyone would want a bat ,that cannot be qustioned and performs and lasts .
April 16, 2012
tattooball
621 posts
Both this bat cannot be shaved unless you take a saw to it and cut the end off, and rolling does nothing to increase the perfomance. yes the bat is hollow.
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