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Nov. 3, 2009
Par
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitcher safety thought!

Tinman
I played against you in the Phoenix game. I was disturbed to see my teammate hit you as I have pitched in younger days but not hardly any in Senior ball. I noticed after you pitched you stayed on the rubber and did not back up. Almost every other game I saw at Phoenix that weekend all the pitchers were backing up away from the rubber. I just wonder if a little more reaction time(knowing it wouldn't have been much) would at least given you enough time to get out of the way or perhaps put a glove on the hit??? Bottom line, I do not condone hitting up the middle but know it is going to happen. The PPR rule does absolutely nothing to protect pitcers, in fact it makes it worse. I know when I came up in Phoenix with nobody on base (regardless of HR quota being met or not), I was not going to hit a solo & tried to go opposite field. Even trying to do this there were still a couple of hard grounders I hit up the middle but were just out of reach of the opposing pitcher. Your team is a class team & good luck next year.
Aug. 12, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: WESTERN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN UTAH

Don't know what is worse-playing on 275' fences with 3 HR's and then outs or playing on 330'-350' fences in Nashville with 5 HR's and then outs. Result is still the same, we (KC BArons) hit a lot of HR's that were outs only they were caught at the 315'-325' range. Why can't these tournaments be played on 300' fences? Surely some 300' diamonds are out there. And SSUSA please revisit the policy/procedure of having a 3-4 team age divisons play over a 3 day period. For teams like us that sponsor ourselves it makes no sense to play on Friday and spend at least a minimum of and extra $200, not to mention time off work for most if not all of us for 1-2 games at the most. These small divisons could easily be played beginning Sat morning and ending by early afternoon on Sunday. Three team divisions playing over 3 days in Salt Lake just doesn't make any sense.
Aug. 3, 2009
Par
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Nancy Allen can you help???

Ok, thanks for the answer so quickly. I thought I had it right, just had a brain cramp when the play happened.
Aug. 3, 2009
Par
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Nancy Allen can you help???

Rules question about "diving" into home plate. It wouldn't have made a difference in our game but just for clarification, can an umpire call a runner out for "diving" (not sliding) into home plate. The play: First inning, runner on first one out, batter hits the gap to right/right center. Runner on first was going to stop at third but realizes the batter is coming around 2nd and not stopping. Bases are slick as a light rain is falling, 1st runner trips over third and falls down. Meantime, he gets up and starts home, I am catching and the relay throw is about 8-10 feet up the 3rd base line. I know I can't tag him as he is past the "commitment" line so I catch it and race towards home. He barely beats me by diving in and is called safe. I didn't think about it until 2 pitches later when I called time and asked the ump if he should not have been called out for diving into home. I know a runner cannot slide into home, that is clear, but what about diving? Anyway, after some discussion a supervisor was called over and then a cell phone was used to call somebody else and a decision was made that the play stood since the next batter had seen a couple of pitches. Was the ump correct?? Since this was a "rules" violation and not an "appeal" play could the umpire had reversed his "mistake" and called him out even though the next batter had 2 pitches thrown to him but not put the ball in the field of play?? I have a feeling the ump & I both missed it, but correct me if I am wrong. I should have probably said something immediately after the play. Thanks Par- KC Barons
Aug. 3, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Gallitan, ISA, 50M Results?

KC Baron's lost 19-17 to Team Arkansas at 9:30 Sunday morning. Winning run was at the plate with 2 outs in the 7th and one of our power guys hit one about 349' and we needed 350'. It was a very good game. Team Arkansas won and got to play Windy City for the title when we left. We played 5 games and 4 of them were on fields that were 330' down the lines and 360-375' in center. I do not understand why a "world" tournament is played on a coverted baseball to softball field. I could see 310' or maybe even 325' but this was really, really tough on our outfielders and I am sure it was for other teams outfielders too. Were there no complexes with 300' fences available for this tournament to be played in this part of the country? I can't believe any 50 major team or 55 major team is thrilled about finding out when they show up the games are not on 300' fences.
Maybe the 50 major+ and 55 major+ are used to games on these types of fields.
Please ISA/SSUSA think about KC/Mid-America next year for this event, a 10 diamond complex all in the same park, 300 ft fences with ag-lime fields. Takes water really well and the complex has an upstairs air conditioned sports bar for time in between games. I know it can get really hot in KC in late July/early August but I think it would be worth ISA's time to look into KC next year.

July 29, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Gallitin,TN

If the grounds crew/city park folks are anything like Chicago, Lord help us getting this completed in a timely manner.
June 17, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Midwest Championships - WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR $495.00 ENTRY FEE

1:10 PM - T.D. returns to Olympic Park with revised schedules in hand and is informed, with no debate allowed, by Parks official that there would be no games the balance of Saturday. Field operations crew chief attempted to let his boss know they could 'probably' get it ready for play by 4:00 PM if the rain would stop (it did stop during this meeting), but Park official had her mind made up on the 'no play' position. She asserted a liability issue due to conditions (which were uplayable at that time, but would prove to be very playable in the late afternoon). T.D. asked what liability she was concerned about, since SSUSA had provided $2.0 mil. in liability coverage in their favor as part of the fields use contract. Her reply was there would be no play on Saturday and she got in her car and left the park.

Ok, if that's the case, I never want to see any SSUSA event scheduled for Schaumburg, Il again. Never means never!!! Go somewhere else.
June 16, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Midwest Championships - WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR $495.00 ENTRY FEE

I too am having trouble understanding the "liability issue". Aren't we all "liable" to get hurt everytime we step on the softball field, dry, slightly wet or real wet? I've seen plenty of guys get hurt on a dry field too. I mean we are not 25-35 years old anymore and in great shape although I like to think I am in "reasonable" shape for my age. I think the full story isn't being told & we may never know why no games were played Sat afternoon or evening.
June 15, 2009
Par
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Midwest Championships - WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR $495.00 ENTRY FEE

Agreed that Mother Nature called the shots-however it could have and should have been handled better by either the TD, the city or both. When teams come from 9 hours away to play like us, we have a problem when the sun is shining at 4:00 pm and had been shining since 1:00 pm after 1/4 inch of rain and games are called for the day. There could have and should have been games played from 4 pm until 10 pm on Sat afternoon & evening. Yeah it sucks for us that we lost and were eliminated at 7:30 am the next day but trust me our team will not be back. The TD should have demanded that games needed to be played on Saturday to protect the "integrity" of the tournament (the TD's words). The "integrity" of the tourney was not protected by going to a single elim tourney. Play this at Mid-America (a 10 field ag-lime facility) and 1 hour after the rain stopped we would have been playing. Do the math-58 teams at $500/team and not having to pay field rental, umpires, lights or maintenance workers on Saturday somebody made out like Jesse James and it wasn't the players. Oh wait, I forgot, isn't Senior Softball "for the players???
Dec. 17, 2008
Par
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: RULE CHANGES...COMMENTS

If this HR/Outs rule is absolutely final, teams and players will bail to other organizations that do not adopt this rule.
I played USSSA for 20+ years and was really surprised when I started playing 50+ and balls over the fence were singles instead of outs. I think that is a major reason senior ball has been successful up to this point. Don't kill the golden goose!!
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