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Discussion: What's the call?

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Aug. 27
chico senior
Men's 60
134 posts
Runner on first - one out. Pop up hit towards the shortstop which he could easily catch. He notices that the runner on first has remained on the bag and that the batter never leaves home plate. Shortstop lets the ball drop about 10 feet in front of him. He then picks up ball, forces runner at second, and then throws to first to complete double play. What's the call?
Aug. 27
Enviro-Vac
Men's 65
489 posts
Unsportsmanlike play could be called. Runner on first is out.
Aug. 27
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
absolutely if a shortstop intentionally allows the ball to drop I call a catch and run remains at first base.
Aug. 27
Dbax
Men's 65
2101 posts
I disagree. If he drops the ball intentionally batter is out. I believe he is allowed to let the ball drop and get a double play.
Aug. 27
lb16
Men's 60
199 posts
As long as fielder does not touch ball in any way and then drop this is a double play. It is the batters responsibility to run to 1st. If batter does his job there would be no double play.
Aug. 28
The Screamer5
Men's 60
69 posts
Of course the fielder cannot drop the ball on purpose in an attempt to turn a double play. In that case the batter is out and runner allowed to return safely to first base. But the fielder is well within the rules to allow the pop up to simply drop if he notices the batter-runner isn't running towards first base. That's on the batter. It wouldn't be unsportsmanlike to do that, nor do I think you can call it a catch when there wasn't one. (That would be in essence, applying the infield fly rule, which doesn't exist in this case.)
Aug. 28
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
When I have seen this happen the batter has always been called out and the runner is returned to first.
A line drive is a different story. The umpire will have a decision to make here.
Aug. 28
Webbie25
Men's 70
2414 posts
I got hung up thinking more of a low popup where the batter wouldn't have time to make it to first base. of course on a high pop up the fielder does have the option to let it drop.
Aug. 28
stick8

1992 posts
Double play. How many times have you heard people say "run it out". This is a situation where you run it out.
Aug. 28
Benji4
Men's 55
289 posts
All of you who say you would call a catch must be outfielders or catchers.

as an infielder I do this any time a batter doesn't run it out. It's a double play. An intentional drop is if it hits your glove or a part of your body intentionally.

I have never seen an infielder drop a pop up if the batter runs.

Run it out and don't disrespect the game and a dropped pop up will never happen to you.
Aug. 28
SSUSA Staff

3505 posts
For SSUSA sanctioned events, here's the ruling (batter is out, runner stays on first), from Official Rulebook §1.37 on page 7 ...

1.37INTENTIONALLY DROPPED FLY BALL

If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play. This is an umpire's judgment call.

Aug. 29
Wayne 37
Men's 65
773 posts
As long as the fielder doesn't guide the ball to the ground, or anything to intentionally drop it, it's nothing. Batter-runner needs to at least make the effort to run to first even if they think/know the ball will be caught.

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