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Discussion: 70\' bases?

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March 9, 2005
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2582 posts
70' bases?
Last weekend I played in a tournament where the fields had 70 foot bases. I didn't find them much different that with what we usually play with.
Has anyone else played on these or does anyone have an opinion on these?
March 9, 2005
cpope
Men's 60
160 posts
Hi Bruce

I would love to see 70 foot bases. Just gives me more time to throw your a$$ out at first. Just kidding.
Our 55 team is not doing so well, we are close to calling it quits. Guess I will just play 50 ball this year.
Have a great year. I sure I will see you around at a few tournaments.
March 9, 2005
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2582 posts
Charlie, before last weekend I would have thought that you were right, more time for the infielders to setup and throw. The problem with that is that they play ever deeper so I think that everything equals out. Maybe a hard hit grounder makes it easier for the fielder but, on the other hand, a medium or slow roller gives the advantage to even the average runner.
I returned to the 50's this year. I hope to see you soon.
March 9, 2005
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
Bruce
I think if the softball people wants to look at rules this is a good thing to look at for safely issue. the 5 more feet give you more time to react or dodge whichever you do best.
Don
March 9, 2005
stig 52
Men's 50
46 posts
The open team I play with when I,m not playing senior ball has played 70' bases the last couple of years and using those results verses the 65' bases I,ve foud that the scoring decreases by about a third. There were more double plays and less extra base hits. I think it would have the same affect on senior ball. Personally i don't like it I enjoy scores in the 15 to 20 range per team per game and I think this would make it tough to get double figures.
March 9, 2005
Gary Heifner
248 posts
I have played in games with the 70' bases. It is a little harder for singles hitters to drop one in with the infield back and feels like a much longer run on an x-tra base hit. I believe it will swing the advantage towards teams with foot speed. However, it would help ease the concerns of senior infielders about batted ball speed etc and is a good idea.
March 10, 2005
blonde56
25 posts
I don't think that 70ft bases is a good idea. One of the great things about softball is to get on base; the idea is to get a hit. I think that if you extend the bases you will have less people on base; it just takes away all the fun. I don;t want to see anyone get hurt either but I love to run the bases..

March 10, 2005
BossBandit
Men's 50
55 posts
I must have misread that post from Charlie. I could have sworn he said throw him out, is it considered thrown if it rolls half way. D*%N Charlie, at 70' the baselines are finally back to how deep you play.

That being said, I'm not sure I'm ready to run that extra 5' to keep out of the double plays that I might hit into. Good to hear from both of you old guys, though, Charlie and Bruce.
March 10, 2005
Gumper
10 posts
Gentlemen. In 2004 the Huntsman World Senior Games played the entire tournament with 70 ft bases.

And, while they listed six bats that were NOT to be used the reality was that only the Ulta II was banned. If it was okay with the competing teams the umpires didn't worry about the other 5 bats so identified.

My own observation of the effects of the 70ft bases was: 1. You played a full 7 inning game; 2. Defense was a premium up the middle re turning double plays; and the scores were much closer thereby making all games very, very competitive.

In summary: it brought back ALL the skills that make up the game of softball/baseball. Mazeroski would have loved it!
March 10, 2005
LA
46 posts
We play early bird tourns here up North with the youngins and NSA uses the 70' bases. If you like low scoring and quick games, then this would be for you. After seeing this happenings to the young guys, I could just imagine with us Seniors. I don't think it would be such a good idea.
March 10, 2005
Bat-Heater
Men's 50
64 posts
I agree with Gumper. We played major in Huntsman last year (thatís probably comparable to AAA in SSUSA) and loved the 70' bags. The added 5í distance adds an element or two to the game and allows a coach and or players to introduce some innovative strategies into the game. The scores in our games were all in the teens or twenties and I think all went the full 7-innings. Ö70' bags all the way! I donít know if the extra 5í increases the reaction time for players or not but expect it would.
March 10, 2005
HWSG
1 posts
Our experience at the Huntsman World Senior Games is that 70 ft bases seem to be fine for 50+ & 55+. They begin to alter the game dramatically as you go up in ages. In the 65+ & 70+ guys are consistantly being thrown out at first from the outfield. In '05 we will be using 65 foot bases, as is NSA, see pages 59-63 in their rulebook. Oh, we did remove some bats other than the Ultra II last year.
March 10, 2005
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
gumper don't know who u played with but in one off the games i played in last year(seeding game)the team we played had a mizuno blur and was using it by mistake(it had not been approved for NSA at the time)and the guy was ejected for using it.he was seen by a tourney offical.for the 70' bases they are long for us seniors to be running especially in the older div's.i've played open age ball on those 70's and your 3b's become 2b's and so on.
bat heater of course u don't mind your skinny and can run. :):):)
March 10, 2005
Bat-Heater
Men's 50
64 posts
Mad dog you are to kind. Looking forward to seeing you again!
March 10, 2005
Architect
Men's 60
15 posts
Hi Bruce: I've played the 70' bases and like them because they bring the defense back into the game. Every game that I can remember playing on them was a close one. It helps offset the hot bats and balls and allows us old infielders a little more reaction time. Since I don't let the bases dictate where I play my position the extra length is not a factor defensively. I play the batter based on my knowlege of how and where he hits, what bat he is using, what ball is in play, how the rest of our defense is aligned, etc. Offensively a well struck ball in the right place is still a hit. I would be interested to know what they did for the pitchers - did they move them back too? - they are the players I worry most about.
March 11, 2005
cpope
Men's 60
160 posts
Boss, you are correct, I am already back that far and still can gun your a$$. Move them back another 5 feet and you might as well not run. I really love the idea. Take the runner scoring from second on a base hit, add another 10 feet with the force at the plate, scores would come down. The game goes bace to defence and speed, not 300 lbs guys that use the U2, get to first and have a runner, the OF has a chance to toss the out. Just kidding, but think it would be a great rule change.
March 11, 2005
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
It would be good to see this in a tourney in the SPa or the SSWC to see if it made a different out come in the Game.It does lead for more of the defense to become a facter in the game more in the Major and Major + divisions then in the AA or AAA . RUNNERS like me would have to really run and not jog around the bases. Being a outfielder it would be nice to throw out a runner now and than
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