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Discussion: NCSSA August 6, 7th Fremont, Ca.

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Aug. 7, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
NCSSA August 6, 7th Fremont, Ca.
Had a great time and tournament this weekend
in Fremont, California's upper bracket.
A sixty major plus team, 2 major teams and AAA team
and we, the 50 Major team lost to MTC 60 major plus and 2 AAA teams.
This evidences how good our team, effective our rules are and well our ranking system works.

We use Baden Fire balls, 5 run innings and equalizer HR at 1
with extra homers as singles.
What a blast.

Rick and Charles of Conklin Bros,
Larry, Bill, Marvin, Pat, Jimmy, Stan, John, Steve and the rest of MTC
Rick Ortiz, Steve, Jerry and Mark of Danville,
way to go, guys.
Great job guys.
See you all in Manteca in 2 weeks at the NCSSA championship.
Aug. 7, 2011
gary c
411 posts
How many teams were in the tournament?
Aug. 8, 2011
turn2
486 posts
The five runs is a big equalizer when the brackets are mixed. Anyone can be beat with only scoring five runs/inning.
Aug. 8, 2011
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Tournament was assigned to Pleasanton, Ca using Fremont , Ca as overflow. Our bracket with the higher ranked teams were in Fremont, Ca. Don't know the exact number of teams but having to use the overflow location shows that the NCSSA numbers are still strong.

The five run inning, equalizer, run spot base on ranking really keeps games tight. No matter what your opinion is on the rules they seem to work.
Aug. 8, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Should there really be an equalizer in softball? Isn't there a big difference between putting up a 5 spot versus a 10 spot per inning? Just asking!
Aug. 8, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Donnie,
Yes.
Those rules are designed to keep us playing competitively
when the teams are mixed in ability.

Also, the ability between players in not as profoundly different
as lots think.
With motivation and confidence individuals and teams
can rise to meet the challenge.
And we are blessed the talent pool in NorCal is so good that
that we can field fabulous teams continuously
from AAA to Major plus.

The 5 run innings
with equalizer HRs at 1
Hrs as singles
and lively bats and balls
reveal the fundamental character
of the ball we play in NCSSA.
It's successful and satisfying
and we art thriving through the jungle
of short money, confusion and self interest
that has come into our midst.

Can't wait for Manteca and Big League Dreams
for championship in 2 weeks.

Aug. 8, 2011
Omar Khayyam
999 posts
To answer gary c's question, there were 28 teams in 5 brackets for this weekend tournament that began at 8:00 on Saturday and ended before 4:00 on Sunday.

I think einstein overlooked the strong AA teams in NCSSA who have done well in tournaments. However, playing teams of equal ability, despite as much as 15 year age difference, makes it hard to equate teams exactly with AA, AAA etc. levels. This is left up to SSUSA to rank these teams. There is no doubt that NCSSA is healthy, despite the slow drop in number of players considering all those who are available and once played. Reasons for this were addressed on another thread.
Aug. 8, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
omar you mean to say out of 117 teams that he says there are,only 28 showed up,that is pitiful.wonder how many will show up for the podunk championships.......
Aug. 9, 2011
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Mad Dog why so negative.

On any given weekend in NCSSA there might be a few locations with tournaments scheduled. A finite number of teams are able to enter each weekend. There have been a numbers of occasions where we've been put on a wait list.

What we're seeing here is not the drop in the number of players wanting to play but the numbers of teams with the funds to run a program.

Our association here in Nor Cal may be "Podunk" in your eyes but it's ours and we enjoy playing it.
Aug. 9, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
well according to your boy joey,it is the best there ever was/is.i have played there(3 years worth)i know how it is run,yes i'm glad you guys have tourneys to play in,but please don't tell me it is the best there ever was/is,just saying.it is a local run assoc for you guys,that is great,but that is all it is,so have your fun and go play.at least your playing...
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
You're obviously not man enough to apologize for disrespecting
over 2000 members of our association and there's nothing
you can do to hide from it, Bob.
And you did it to yourself.
As Smokey pointed out, we sanction 2 or 3 tournaments in the same weekend some time to cover the geography and age brackets.
Our National champions include:

MTC 50, 55 and 60
Old A's
Blue Jays
OMEN
NorCal Merchants.
East Bay Oldies
Mac 2
Longhorns
Kellysports
5 Spot
Old Dawgs
Redwood City Reds
Barons
ODB
JU
Viagra
Roll with 2
Stixx
No Dice and many others.

We play with lively bats and balls
5 run innings, HRs as singles after equalizer at 1
and have blast
showing the way our game is and should be played
to keep enrollment rising and interest from waning.

As I said, you have repeatedly disrespected us
the terrific men, women and champions that we are
would apologize if you knew better.
Aug. 9, 2011
Don5
Men's 60
33 posts
Bob, Joe may get a little excited about the play in NCSSA, but it has inproved with the rating format we use now. The competition for most brackets are close and the higher brackets are very tough to play. Omar may not have mentioned, but at the same time, there was another 17 team tourney in Lodi, same weekend for the lower ranked teams (mostly the older guys). Thats 45 teams playing out of "117" almost 40% playing in a "backyard t-shirt tourney" and we love it. I've played in over 70 tourney games so far this year and only spent 7 nights away from home, that's what we like about the NCSSA. NCSSA had scheduled over 50 tourneys this year and I get to play in about 20 of them, most within easy driving distance, too bad, I know you don't get to do that. We do have a great organization and it's pretty well run.
Aug. 9, 2011
Don5
Men's 60
33 posts
Bob, Joe may get a little excited about the play in NCSSA, but it has inproved with the rating format we use now. The competition for most brackets are close and the higher brackets are very tough to play. Omar may not have mentioned, but at the same time, there was another 17 team tourney in Lodi, same weekend for the lower ranked teams (mostly the older guys). Thats 45 teams playing out of "117" almost 40% playing in a "backyard t-shirt tourney" and we love it. I've played in over 70 tourney games so far this year and only spent 7 nights away from home, that's what we like about the NCSSA. NCSSA had scheduled over 50 tourneys this year and I get to play in about 20 of them, most within easy driving distance, too bad, I know you don't get to do that. We do have a great organization and it's pretty well run.
Aug. 9, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
and don5 that is exactly what i'm saying,they are backyard tourney's where you go to play and have a little fun,there is nothing that makes them the best in the world as joey boy would presume you to believe.you know me i played every weekend there if i could,picked up with any team,didn't care,but i didn't think i was playing for anything but the pleasure of playing a game.when i played with the animals we usually played the same 5-8 teams,depending on who showed at any one tourney.you say there has been over 50 tourneys,joey boys team has been in 5 according to their web page,boy is that really repping the assoc......

oh well


have fun the rest of the year don,are you guys coming,or did you go to dalton.we are coming to phx so might see ya there.....
Aug. 9, 2011
hitt2
354 posts
Maddog I've read some of the recent post why so negative. You and Joe have a history. Let it rest.
Myself I love playing NCSSA it allows me to play close to home. Most in NorCal are aware I'm one of several that drive the furthest to tourneys, but 2 hours away is still close enough for me to sleep at home. I rather play team in Norcal in mixed divisions than in Nataional events where divisons should be defined. Many choose not to travel to SSUSA event for this reason. NorCal has a lot of competitive Championship teams, I've been lucky to be a member of a few. I like the baden fire balls and the no restrictions on bats. Eliminates the altered bat issue. I hate the 52 core ball in the heat. You said it best, players and teams are playing and thats the true point at our ages. The disagreemjent between you and Joe and some others is why I don't come on the site that much anymore. You guys need to agree to disagree and stay off each others threads as a respect to your other fellow board members. ijs
Aug. 9, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Listen hitt2, I'm not trying to piss in your cherrios. But your comment even adds more fuel to the fire. But why is this even directed at MD. Joe, is possibly the most negative person that posts here. Wether you believe he is right or wrong. I see that you play in NCSSA, is this part of the reason Joe's off limits? Calling a spade a spade!!
Aug. 9, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
if my telling it like it is,is negative,oh well,get over it.ncssa is a local assoc and thats it.yes it is great you only have to drive 2 hrs to play(ya must have a very economical car to do so both days).i feel when someone has to constantly hype an assoc,well maybe it is not that great after all.like i have said,i played ncssa,it was something to do,when i wasn't playing for something real.knew i could get 5 games in on the weekend(3 sat- 2 sun)and keep my skills going,kind of like practice but with real umps.


also the 52 DOES NOT change in the heat like all the others do.a 375 comp ball will be down to 200 comp in 90 or better heat,the 52 will not change from its 275/300 comp,its made not to do that.maybe a +/- 10 lbs comp max change.

also i have no prol with staying away from his crap,tell him to stay off ours,with his constant bs of we the majority,and long bully pulpit tirades about how the gov wants to take our game away by making him hit a less then pleasing ball.please child..........
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Whoa.
Jeff and the rabid disrespecter
of 2000 men and women of NCSSA, NorCal,
are in support of each other which means
the 52 core ball isn't far behind.
This guy is still at it
and refuses to apologize to an entire group
of terrific men and women who make up
NCSSA the finest softball association in the country for a variety of reasons
not least of which it's run by players
and caters to and understands us and our needs.

And Sponge Bob now says, 'ours'
when referring to his movement.
I was right about him and his little band
or merry men all along.

Birds of a feather
trying to work us like we're mindless little
soldiers who will go along with whatever
we're told to do.
I got your 52 core ball, right here, boys.

Knock yourselves out if you want to play as slower, kinder and gentler game
because you can't hang anymore and are too scared to play the game
we've always played all our lives.
But leave us
who want to play with lively equipment
to ourselves.
You are like a group on nazis trying
to force your minority opinion
on the great majority
of us who love to play our game
and there was some 30 percent of those
in Germany and not the 1/10 of 1 percent
if you count everyone twice, of you.

Nazis.
That's right.
Softball nazis.
Aug. 9, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
well joey boy,your stupidity and ignorance has risen even higher,didn't think that was possible for you,but hey you proved me wrong for once.......i have never ever said i would stop playing senior ball b/c of no/any changes made.i have always said i would/will play by whatever rules are set forth by any assoc i play in,you have said you'll quit if you don't get your way,what a child.you and your cohorts a few years back whined about the pitchers getting hurt or the middle getting blown up so i suggested using the 52 ball to protect the pitcher,not my fault you can't hit and use this ball,maybe if you go back and watch your batting videos again maybe you could learn to hit.i have never been scared to play anyone,anyplace,with any equipment or style of play,you can not say that as you whine about a pitcher trying to deceive you,and than go on and say it is ok to use cheater bats,what a crock of crap that is....you have no integrity what so ever by endorsing the use of an altered bat,aka cheater bat....but yet you come on here and talk as if you do,grow up and learn the rules and how to play the game...please child.........
Aug. 9, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Joe, did not disrespect anyone here. Just stating a fact. If someone wants to go after MD for his debate with you, he should have mentioned you as well as being so negative. I think anytime at our age we have someplace or someone (NCSSA)that will take us in is a great thing. Also, I could care less what ball is being used. It's not an issue with me.
Aug. 9, 2011
gary c
411 posts
Idiot quit throwong the word Nazi around.
How would like it if I called you
Gay Joey from the Gay Bay?
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Any criticism by a gutless character
who won't stand up for himself while slurring
others is a badge of merit and accomplishment
for me.
I'm that formidable/truthful
that I must be attacked
by masked, back stabbing assassins in order
to be kept quiet.
Robert for all his mistakes in judgment,
decorum and decency at least is man enough
to let us know who he is and looks great
and is great next to you
yet
you serve him and his small band
of merry men.

You can judge the true merit and character
of a man by the company he keeps
and as I have said before and
I am blessed to have the best friends
in the universe help define who I am.
Jeff, Robert, and friends may or may not be better served by your avid and rabid support,
non sir.

Aug. 9, 2011
gary c
411 posts
Queen of the long ball I don play in podunk tournaments with twenty or thirty teams. I saw you play once and it looked like a Mel Brooks movie. You are so big and bad I am so scared of a long white haired YOYO with a bald spot on the top of his pointed head.
By the way what will you do when we do meet tough guy?
Aug. 9, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Is this the only way you know how to reply or comment on every subject? You are so redundant when you canít find anything constructive to say? I don't know these fellas that you so easily lump me together with. You can also judge someone who avoids answering questions point blank and you sir is being judged. Who gave you the right to make the comments and remarks you direct at me? I don't like you and have never met you. You like the little kid, who throws a rock and runs like hell. Only to get caught and blame everyone else. Just shut up already!! SSUSA staff, you can see inalmost every post he try to incite something or someone. Deleting the disparaging remarks or comments are insufficient. He needs to go!
Aug. 9, 2011
gary c
411 posts
If you think it's all me than you are an IDIOT just like your little buddy Frisco Joe. I hope Joey doesn't make a quick stop or we won't be able to see your head.
If you think throwing around the word Nazi is ok then you must be a bigot also.
Aug. 9, 2011
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Podunk or National I'm in.

Before the season ends we'll end up playing 8-10 NCSSA events, 4 SSUSA,1 SPA, and 2 local NSA 40 events. That's a good season for most teams.

Our next Podunk tournament is NCSSA at BLD Manteca. Our bracket will consist of: Longhorns, East Bay Oldies, Barons, MTC 50, Stockton 50, and possibly MTC 55. Normally to get a bracket like that you have to spend 550.00 tournament fee, hotels rooms, miss work, and travel.

I thank NCSSA for an affordable, competitive, local program that we all can enjoy.
Aug. 9, 2011
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Podunk or National I'm in.

Before the season ends we'll end up playing 8-10 NCSSA events, 4 SSUSA,1 SPA, and 2 local NSA 40 events. That's a good season for most teams.

Our next Podunk tournament is NCSSA at BLD Manteca. Our bracket will consist of: Longhorns, East Bay Oldies, Barons, MTC 50, Stockton 50, and possibly MTC 55. Normally to get a bracket like that you have to spend 550.00 tournament fee, hotels rooms, miss work, and travel.

I thank NCSSA for an affordable, competitive, local program that we all can enjoy.
Aug. 9, 2011
hitt2
354 posts
Pricer
I don't eat cereal its for for kids
Thank-you for making my point as to why this board has become the soap box for the myopic few. I know joe not (joey) As well as Maddog. I agree with some of their points of view, but not all This topic of NSCCA not being the best is heavily slanted to those of us in NorCal that choose to play the game at a high level and with equipment of each individuals choice. In NCSSA it's not about the individual, but about the program. Name calling demonstrates the a lack of understanding towards another point of view. If I was easily anger I'd take offense to your analogy (a spade is a spade) Joe's reference to Nazi's is also uncalled for as well as Gary's comments. Maybe a automatic block should be placed on individuals that do this. it would allow for other to express themselve without being singled out for not agreeing. It time for me to once again disappear like many other, so that you (gentlemen):} can prove thru you boast and vague threat who's right and the toughest webn'nite is.
Everyone else reading this see ya on the ball field. Don 5 we'll lol tonite.
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Gary C is a no one to us and only marks
when your saying something that is threatening to the small group of zealots
trying to get control of us and our game.
When he/she appears it means we're going in the right direction.

Nazi meant by me is when a small minority of unscrupulous zealots
decided they know better and in a purer sense
who WE are and want to see all of us return to our purer forms.

That's exactly what the ball/bat police on this site are all about.
There's less than a dozen of them, all with a common goal
to pave the way for kinder, gentler softball a la the new equipment
that just happen to be invested in one or another.

SSUSA has shown they don't care enough about the website to remove
such a character from our midst so
he lives as a marker and clown at best
for us and our desire for decency and to play softball
the only way it can be thoroughly enjoyed, and that is with lively bats and balls.
Aug. 9, 2011
gary c
411 posts
Joey YOU ARE A BIGOT you use that word to easily.
You and your minions keep living in your little world and keep playing each other and keep thinking your podunk tournaments
mean something
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Thank you, Gary.
You signal the greatness, decency and rightness of us
and all that we are about.
Thank you.
Aug. 9, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
hitt2, I apologize for for the comment. It was not meant to be anything other than to point out that Joe is just as guilty as anyone on here. Your comments and opinions should not have been replied to in the manner in which I did.

Gary C the comment "Is this the only way you know how to reply or comment on every subject" was not intended for you, but directed at Joe.
Aug. 9, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
You guys are hysterical.
Truly hysterical.
Keep up the good work.
Aug. 9, 2011
gary c
411 posts
No problem Pricer
I am sorry I misunderstood I apologize for my comment.
I have no problem with someone who disagrees with me
God knows I have been wrong before but some people just can't
disagree without getting personal. I am no angel but I have always hated bully's
and I must admit I get very nasty when I come across them.
Anyone I have offended other then the Village Idiot of softball (Yes you Frisco)
I am truly sorry.
Aug. 10, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Nasty while hiding yourself all the while...
you must be REALLY pissed off.

You're just hysterical.
Keep up the good work.
I never looked so good.
Aug. 10, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
And all the crap you spew
is just an excuse to be vile and disgusting.
No wonder you won't show us/me who are really are.
Aug. 10, 2011
gary c
411 posts
Joseph Queen of the long ball Rigatoni
If I want to hear from you I will flush twice
Aug. 11, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
You know what, evrybody on this site probably plays in a senior leauge somewhere. And we all probably think that its better than what it really is. I know I do, ours here in Indy is far better than what others tell me. But you know what....
let it be what it is to yourself. Why should we get on each other about such small things as this when there is so much else wrong with and in the world. Lets just chat and have fun......
Aug. 11, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
You're just hysterical.
Keep up the good work.
Aug. 11, 2011
Bull3131
Men's 50
14 posts
Einstein....I too had a great time in Fremont this past weekend always good to see you at the field you make senior softball fun as it's suppose to be. See you in Manteca next weekend as wears laying in Fresno tomorrow.

Bull3131
Aug. 11, 2011
Bull3131
Men's 50
14 posts
Einstein....I too had a great time in Fremont this past weekend always good to see you at the field you make senior softball fun as it's suppose to be. See you in Manteca next weekend as we are playing in Fresno tomorrow.

Bull3131
Aug. 11, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Bull.
We got whooped good but NCSSA is always a blast
with great competition and terrific people
cause we got what seniors really want.
Lively bats and balls, HR's singles after equalizer at one and 5 run innings
that keep anyone from running away with a game
after just 1 crooked inning.
We gotta look into the Northern vs Southern
California thing with SCSSA.
That REALLY sounds good.

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