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Discussion: TOC Roster addition question

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Dec. 6, 2011
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
TOC Roster addition question
SSUSA , I need an answer to a question that a lot of people would like to know , including myself. We are "trying" to regroup our team for the TOC (Expert Car Care-55 AAA). We only had 15 on the roster, including the coach. 5 guys cant go. Now , I know that you can only add 60 yr. old's to a 55 roster. We have 2 guys that will be 60 in 2012 . The tournament will be in 2012 . Is this OK ?
Dec. 6, 2011
SSUSA Staff
1007 posts
gman - It appears from the facts stated, you may add those two individuals to your 2012 TOC roster, assuming they are otherwise eligible as to residency and team rating history experience. You have 10 of the original 15 players from the Qualifying Roster ready to go, as a 55-AAA qualifying team. You may add players from the same age (55) AND same (AAA) or lesser rating until you get to 12 players. You may also add otherwise eligible players from the next age (60) AND the same (AAA) or lesser rating to get to the maximum of 15 players.

The two players you mention as aging up to 60+ in 2012 were, by definition, in the 55+ age group for 2011, therefore making them eligible as roster additions for the upcoming TOC. Please send the specifics of who the two players are to the SSUSA in an email (info@seniorsoftball.com) and it should be a routine approval for them. Good luck!

NOTE: Complete rules for TOC Roster composition are on the SSUSA Website under TOURNAMENTS > RULES or from the following link:

TOC Roster Rules: TOC Roster Considerations

Dec. 6, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3921 posts
and this is one of the reasons the TOC should be in nov instead of feb........
Dec. 6, 2011
LP
266 posts
mad dog surly you jest, what could be wrong with say winning the winter world and then 14 months later playing in the TOC with 4 to 6 players that didnt play on the original team. not to even mention that even if you dont have to wait that long from winning a tournament to get there the previous year you can still pickup players.
Dec. 6, 2011
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
LP , I think what Mad Dog is saying, is that "yes , we had to wait 14 months for the TOC. During that time (14 months) , teams like Expert Car Care (5 states), or any other team as far as that goes , can go through a merriad of roster changes. 14 months is a long time . A # of issues can be factored in (mostly health wise).We dont exactly " live forever ", or be able to " still run around the block ".......And , the weather in Florida the last 2 February's , was very,very uncoperative......Then again , time frame wise ,if it was held in November, the teams that Qualified in October would be playing again in just a few short weeks , unkind to
the teams that qualified 12 months prior....Bottom line , my vote is DECEMBER , no chance of bad weather & timely for all....P.S. , the northern & mid-west teams could still keep their "stroke".instead of "guessing" in February.
Dec. 6, 2011
Al33
Men's 55
183 posts
I think what mad dog is saying is this:

"and this is one of the reasons the TOC should be in nov instead of feb........."

Absolutely should be played in Nov/Dec.
Dec. 7, 2011
DoubleL10
Men's 65
797 posts
jimjoes-gman, that 14-month wait feels even longer in the older age groups! We (Omen) won the Winter Worlds in Vegas and when Dave made the presentation, he said we qualified for the 2013 TOC! I hope I'm still here then!
Dec. 7, 2011
Brock
Men's 65
46 posts
Just throwing my two cents in that the TOC should be played in Nov/Dec in the same year as qualified, not the following year. Many feel this way but in discussing with SS USA, it definitely won't happen until their contract in Florida expires and I'm not sure how many years that might be. I suggested the TOC after the Worlds in November and then they could move the Winter Worlds and Nationals to December or as the first tournaments in the new year. I also suggested that if it gets moved to also consider a warm venue closer to the middle of the country like possibly somewhere in south Texas as an example. Being in Colorado we don't play much ball in the winter time but November still works.
Dec. 7, 2011
Jawood
Men's 50
784 posts
This is one issue I think everyone is on the same page with ... absolutely ridiculous that it is held in February. We have never even considered going.

The brass, however does have their reasons why it is the way it is and they have stated why numerous times.
Dec. 8, 2011
bullet
Men's 55
130 posts
Gman, Paul here I must agree the long wait,Hurts so many players and teams. just how many of the team is able to go. I am 3 weeks into surgery, so as you know i am out.I will be on vacation there during the TOC so if you do go, let me know i would to stop by to see yea
Dec. 8, 2011
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
Paul I sent you an Email, but did you happen to ask RG about the open position for next season. He still got it for an ld coot. lol!
Dec. 9, 2011
jimjoes-gman
Men's 55
80 posts
Paul(bullet) we will miss you tremendously . Three guys having sometype of surgery , including your self & George Lamore w/open heart surgery. Two others did not play at all this past season.....Actually , we have 9. We are hunting for a couple of guys (3)that played 55 aaa this past season...Hope to go...RG
Dec. 9, 2011
steve65
Men's 65
175 posts
g you old fart you could always go to the senior home and get more guys---
Dec. 13, 2011
Jet
10 posts
Ron Geary, I do not have the answer to your last question, but could you send me an email to dennisditmer@gmail.com as I would like to talk to you about an opportunity with the Dayton Legends 55 team. You know some of the players on my team and they mentioned you as a possible pitcher for us in 2012. Send me an email and hopefully we can get in touch.
Dec. 29, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
LP. Are you still looking for players ?
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