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April 24, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Uniforms
Some of you might already be but imagine you were outfitting your team for uniforms. You have everyones sizes and number they want. Now your putting it all together and all your teammates trust your judgement. Presuming you have the funds to afford what types of clothing would you order?
For shirts: t-shirt type-- 100% cotton, 50/50, polyester, two button down, full button down, dri-fit, sleeveless? What are your preferred type material and style for shirts?
For pants; full length, length just below the knee (nicker type), or shorts?
For caps: fitted, adjustable, flex-fit? Wool, twill, mesh, moisture absorbing?
For pull overs-jackets: thin, thick (cotton or quilted)? V-neck, quarter-zip, full zip (or button down) or a wind-shirt type?
Let's read what type of clothing you would outfit your team with for playing!!
April 24, 2012
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
Stick, don't you like our uniforms? I would rather have dri-fit shirts, but I like our colors.
April 24, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Might ask yourself what is the primary climate you will be in, warm 70-80's cold or hot, over say 85.
I'd go cotton blend 50\50 preshrunk. for the cold & warm; a breathable nylon weave or similar cloth for the hot.
Some might like sleeveless took some do not like them, either are out there.
Pants only in cold events shorts otherwise. I don't like to wear them anyway to play. Half pound less to carry around.
Nylon you need to be careful with with numbers especially because most shops use iron on or something that gathers and then they look bad.
Flex-fit hats usually cost a bit more but nice.
Pull overs again I think it depends on climate.
So shop around for the material and ask about they type of screen printing they will do.
What happened, you hit the lotto.
April 24, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Mario of course I like our uni's. Just trying to stir the pot on here--lol I would also prefer to wear dri-fit shirts for those hot days. You ready to go?
April 24, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Taits fair points about the climate and the imprinting that shops do. Screened numbers are always best. Iron on's tend to peel off after a series of washes.
I only wish I hit the lotto!
April 24, 2012
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
Stick8, I am in the best shape of my life, I think. P90X has done the trick for me. I am really looking forward to playing....

I wish this was next week so we would be playing this weekend.
April 24, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
I'm with you Mario, I'm anxious to get going myself. People I know who use the P90X training routine say good things about it. Is that a routine you can also use during the ball season?
April 25, 2012
Mario
Men's 50
381 posts
Stick8, I am going to do it this summer while playing. What I plan on doing is doing the mon-wed workouts on the weeks that we play that weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.
April 26, 2012
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Dale........did ya look at the entries for the Brickyard??? I think you guys are the only 50 major plus......that can't be much fun if you have to play the major teams and give the equalizer
April 26, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Shouldn't the facts that all the guys have two arms, two legs, put their pants on one leg at a time, and have equal opportunity to work hard and improve be enough equalizer?

Again, Socialism.................
April 26, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Thanks Dale. Since P90X is highly regarded I might ease into that routine. Looks like we're the only 50 major plus team entered in Indy.
April 26, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Better late than never, but the off-season might have been the best time to get into a new workout routine. But again, better late than never. Good luck with it!
April 26, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Corky you are correct, it isn't much fun but besides not playing we don't have many other options at our disposal. This is another good case for combining major and major plus.
April 26, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Gary I wholeheartedly agree. Back in the day I played against all the big boys numerous times (steeles, team tps, dan smith, hague, bunca to name a few) and didn't get any "equalizer". We played straight up and got our rear ends handed to us most of the time. But we learned and worked harder to improve. The way we figured it was if we were going to put the time, effort and money into traveling and competing for world titles we owed it to ourselves to try and be the best we can be. Sadly in todays game not all but too many teams don't have that attitude.
April 26, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
No stick, they don't at all. I can see the current generation of kids who grew up getting t-ball participation ribbons being that way, but I would like to think our generation has a bit more pride. Sadly, looks like I am wrong.

Now watch the replies I get citing bowling and golf and the handicaps used in those games. But softball was NEVER meant to be played that way. NEVER!
April 26, 2012
JT9
Men's 55
36 posts
If you are so disgruntled with the present state of the game what procative measures are you taking to change the game back to the way it was intended to be played.
April 26, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
The senior game will never go back. Many on here have told me that, and I just accept it as inevitable reality.

I cannot change the mindsets and mentality of many old guys who like being able to use someone else's technology to do in their 50s and 60s what a lot of them weren't in their 20s and 30s.

And in the process we have the most absurd rule of all. You no longer need to record three outs to get to go in and hit! You just have to kind of suck and give up five runs.
April 26, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Gee,Gary, haven't you ever been on a team that can hit well enough to score 5-10 runs without making an out? I'm not talking about errors either. Good teams will do that.
April 26, 2012
JT9
Men's 55
36 posts
Why spend so much time engaging in conversations about something you just admit will never change? Seems about and senseless as attending a 4 team tournament!
April 26, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Sure I have. but five runs is a 35-run pace. When you look at it that way, giving up five sort of sucks.

But my point remains that to not have to record three outs to get off the field is just silly. Or to have the bats taken out of your hands because you were able to score five is just as silly.

JT, ever talk politics? What office do you hold? Ever talk about your favorite pro sports team? What position do you hold in their front office? In those cases I suppose you are also senseless.

And yes, a 4-team bracket is very weak.
April 26, 2012
JT9
Men's 55
36 posts
Don't talk politics, don't have a favorite sports team, don't hold any administrative position in any front office but I am aware of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results has its own definition. I do however encourage people to be proactive and exert their efforts in a direction that may actually provoke some type of thought to initiate change. Keyboard urinating contests with fellow senior softballers about a game you admit there is no chance of change....senseless! We actually agree on many of the silly rules of the senior game and yes we are both senseless.
I'm guilty!
April 26, 2012
crump22
Men's 50
43 posts
stick8,back in the day when we played the major team, we played in their tournament they weren,t allowed to play in our A tournament,senior softball are given you a chance to play,so give the 5 run and have good time.its only softball,a game we are bless to be still playing.
April 26, 2012
Mango
Men's 50
90 posts
Hey Stick,
Mango here. Any chance you guys are going to Rock n Reno. There should be at least 4 or 5 Major Plus Teams there. You guys would help make it a nice tournament.
April 26, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
798 posts
Wow, 4 or 5 Major-plus teams! Guess it's better than 2 or 3!
April 26, 2012
garyheifner
361 posts
Stick 8

Good Lord almighty, good question above until Gary 19 turned it into another rant.

We have found that the quick dry materials (no cotton)that are light in weight is the best for shirts. Cold weather, most of the guys wear under armor long sleeve type shirts under the above. Many wear shorts but some really like the boombah long pants. Many colors and styles. They come in 36" lengths and you seam them to fit your inseam.
April 27, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Gary, reading comprehension is a good thing, try it sometime. Corky took the thread in a dirction away from uniforms and toward tournament participation. NOt to mention Mario took it away from uniforms and toward workouts.

Don't worry, maybe in your next life.......................
April 27, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Mango, hope all is well and healthy with you and yours. To answer your question Rock-N-Reno is not on our schedule so I don't anticipate us playing it. One of these years I'll get to that tourney.
April 27, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Garyheifner sometimes these threads just tail off into other topics for whatever reasons. I'm as guilty of doing that as anyone else.
I've read and heard many players claim the under armour long sleeves really keep you warm on cold days. Is that really true?
April 27, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
stick, he knows that. He just desperately grasps at whatever he can to take some shot at me. Never seems to make a difference to him how senseless he looks in the process.
April 27, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Crump your exactly right about the chance to play. We are all fortunate in that regard and every so often taking the time to "smell the roses" makes one appreciate the game a lot more. The rules set forth are the rules so if our team elects to play we know what they are going in and abide by them. There is no other option! I was coming from a general perspective as far as teams-players looking to better themselves. It isn't as prevalent these days as it was back in the day.
See you in Indy!!
April 27, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Our fathers' generation was called "America's Greatest". I really question ours, and have lost hope for the one after us.

Just no pride and sense of responsibility and accountability anymore. And few in our children's generation even bother to stay home and raise their own children.

Maybe senior softball is just a microcosm of what is going on in general.
April 27, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Gary accountability is very vital. If I earned a dollar for every time I've heard players blaming umps or their teammates for losing games I'd be in that one percent income category you read about. A old timer who happens to be a national hof'er taught me long ago no one is infallable. He stressed everyone can improve their play if they want to put the time in. It doesn't hurt to pick peoples brains. Usually players who consistently blame umps and teammates for their own shortcomings end up being the ones who make the most mistakes.
April 27, 2012
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
stick the UA cold weather gear do work,but it seems you need to be moving for them to be of any good use,sitting around doesn't seem to be as good....
April 27, 2012
garyheifner
361 posts
stick 8

Yes, we feel, under armour will help keep you warmer. Some of us wear it in heat like the midwest summer, Phoenix and Florida and in the color white. It actually has a cooling effect. My last 16 years of work was on the railroad (outside). In the summer, all the white guys wore tee shirts and almost all the Mexican guys wore long sleeve shirts in light colors. They claimed it was cooler. Tried it and they were right.
April 27, 2012
garyheifner
361 posts
Gary 19

With a Doctorate in Education, an IQ in the 140s and 30 years of teaching and coaching, I read quite well. I find that I don't have to grasp desperately to take a shot. I merely wait for your next post. In fact, I am quite proud of myself for the restraint I have shown in recent months. I try very hard not to reply, but sometimes it's so hard.

If you are any kind of an historian, every generation has thought the next one was worthless and America was going to hell in a handbag. Yet, it seems to carry on. I stay in contact with 100s of former students and athletes. Too many successful doctors, lawyers, teachers, business men and women, housewives etc. to even keep track of exactly. They will learn to deal with the new challenges each generation has to face. We will grow old and die and they will grow old and get to play the great game of senior softball!!!
April 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Gary, fine education and career. But that doesn't change the fact this thread was sidetracked, as many tend to do, long before I allegedly did.

Yes America will carry on, but just not as well as it has. That is pretty apparent.

And no game of softball is "great" when you no longer have to record three outs to earn your ups. Or when one team is institutionally-handed advantages over the other. America is carrying on capitalistically , senior softball has become socialist. Just not a good thing.
April 28, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Gary19...........What we have "is" the "great" game of softball. We Seniors have what Bob Mitchell envisioned in '88 when he formed SSUSA.
The game you allude to is being played by boys and girls. This is Senior Softball.
Check out the history of Senior Softball on this site. They were walking the bases back then!

" Senior Softball dates to the 1930s, when Eveyln Brown Rittenhouse, a retired stage actress from New York, moved to St. Petersburg, Florida, to manage a retirement community.She was asked to recommend a way to keep older people active. Her idea: Softball. In those days, the players walked the bases. That practice has long since changed."

The way Senior Softball is being played today is the way Senior Softball was meant to be played. The Senior Softball Tournament playing community has voted by their participation.
April 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
To me, 3 and 4 team brackets are not a very strong show of support.
April 28, 2012
RIK56
Men's 50
120 posts
gary19 you need to go back and read the thread you sidetracked it first.
April 28, 2012
Bomber #7
Men's 60
62 posts
Gary, how many mirrors in that house of yours? "To me, 3 and 4......" In the game we play and love, it's "us" and "we"............it's a team sport!
April 28, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Nope! This came TWO days before any of my posts:

"Stick8, I am in the best shape of my life, I think. P90X has done the trick for me. I am really looking forward to playing....

I wish this was next week so we would be playing this weekend."

Now what does it have to do with Uniforms?

Bomber, why would I express MY interpretation of support with a plural pronoun? I was clearly (to some) not making any reference to anything refering to a team.

C'mon guys, reading comprehension doesn't need to be a lost art.
April 28, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
If you stick to the P90X regime, your old uniform will not fit. It will be too baggy.
April 29, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
=)
April 29, 2012
RIK56
Men's 50
120 posts
wake up and smell the coffee he was sending a friendly message to a teamate.you sidetracked it first.
April 29, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Not the point at all. It was off-topic in the thread, and lead the thread in an entirely different direction. Sort of like what I was accused of doing.
April 30, 2012
neck10
498 posts
gary what does it matter to you ,you dont even go at least we are headed to indy next weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30, 2012
stick8
1298 posts
Garyheifner you aree correct. I umpired 9 games Saturday here in Michigan and it was a cold day--cloudy and mid 40's. The underarmour long sleeve did help keep the heat in. Thanks.
April 30, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
442 posts
Maybe I just haven't yet become a crotchety old man, but I find interminable discussions about who did what to whom incredibly boring. I read these discussions for the occasional gem of substance, since I know I don't know everything and reinventing the wheel just takes too long.
Stick to substance.
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