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July 8, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
686 posts
Heat
To all my fellow players. Whoever survived the Glen Burnie tourney my hat is off to you. It was brutal out there. For all the people that know me I finished playing on Saturday and could not I repeat couldn't have a Vodka, unheard of for me. I cramped up all night and I did hydrate for the two previous days. Why do we do this to ourselves? It is not for the money. We actually pay to play.What a great bunch of great guys the NV FORCE team has. I am glad to be a part of them. Thanks Harry #20 NV FORCE
July 8, 2012
kbl
Men's 60
529 posts
Birdie...if you recall, lat year at glen burnie, it was 106 and alot of guys didnt drink enough. aside from the heat, sounds like you had another good tournament.
thanks, ken
July 8, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
I have heard the best way to stop cramping instantly is to drink dill pickle juice. It works! For tournament players mustard also works-probably the vinegar. You can stock up on mustard
packets from your local fast food establishment.
I have also used this effectively at 3 AM. Alcohol is not a good idea in extreme heat. Hope you are feeling better.
And yes, for the skeptic, there is some empirical evidence for this. The evidence shows it works before reaching the stomach, but no one know why.
July 9, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
Pickle juice makes sense to me... I played 13 games in one day and night... started crapping in the 12 game so I ran in to snack bar grabbed a cub of water and teaspoon of salt and drank it, craps were gone in about two minutes! It's the salt in the pickle juice! I was shocked at how fast that it worked... surprised more professional athletes don't do this on the side lines.. Always see them trying to stretch them out LOL I believe if they did what I did they would be back in the game in minutes!
July 9, 2012
Tim Millette
499 posts
WOW..... Who'd of thunk it......

A "softballer" that plays in the San Francisco city league liking "pickle juice".....

Wonder how salty that pickle is after 12 games.

Sorry.... I just couldn't resist
July 9, 2012
Robo2
226 posts
we played 3 games Sat and 2 on Sunday. My car said 112 degree Sat.

I find that in addition to water; at least one Kettle-One dirty martini with olives works best.

It was great seeing all the guys; even Ross.
July 9, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
LOL Tim, Ask Perry and Mike about the taste! :-)
July 9, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
I didn't get the reference to San Fran and I know this sounds weird, but it is not the salt. Drinking lots of water can stop cramps if dehydration is the cause which it may be. And salt may help if electrolytes are the problem. Nevertheless, pickle juice or prepared mustard will relieve a cramp instantly. I will look for a
web reference.
July 9, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
HJ, it's the Salt in the Pickle juice... you can get the same result with salt water!
July 9, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
Thanks swing for the salty enlightenment.

For those, if any, who want to understand what I was trying to say, this is the article:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/phys-ed-can-pickle-juice-stop-muscle-cramps/

The article indicates many things including:
1. It is not the salt or liquid relieving the cramp.
2. It is probably the vinegar.
3. Straight vinegar works better than pickle juice.
4. 1/4 of trainers polled use pickle juice.

I don't make this stuff up.
Aug. 6, 2012
hoovedog
Men's 50
73 posts
After Playing in College Station Tx. several weeks ago with a heat index of 105, I experienced cramps so bad I couldn't drive home.
Have done Pickle Juice, Potassium & calcium supplements, with no success. Then I read an article about Magnesium being the key to unlock the muscle to allow calcium and potassium to do their job. I took 800 mgs of Magnesium and 400 mgs of Potassium a day before and during playing at Plano Tx this weekend. The heat index was 104 all 3 days. Played outfield all 5 games, and pinch ran at least 10 times Not one cramp anywhere, has anyone else tried Magnesium?? http://www.livestrong.com/article/525008-cramping-magnesium/
Aug. 6, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
Hoove,
I regularly take magnesium. It is a known muscle relaxer. Since cramps are actually an overuse problem where the muscles is continuously firing, it makes sense that Mg itself would be helpful. It is the active ingredient in an epson salt hot water soak and I definitely feel my muscles relax after the soak. I have not heard about Mg allowing Ca and Ka to work, but it may just be your Mg was low. I will read the article. Incidentally, many think Mg is also good for lowering blood pressure.
Aug. 6, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
I read the article and other stuff. Like everything with nutrition there are different opinions. There appears to be no direct proof that Mg eliminates cramps. But if Mg is low then it is likely that Ca and Ka will be low. Many said a blood test for magnesium is worthless because they claim the body will steal Mg from bones and cells to keep the blood level constant even though you are deficient. There are many reasons you can be deficient including bad diet, alcoholism and other conditions. Some argue the govt. guidelines are way too low. If I were suffering from leg cramps I would consider Mg, supplementation. Note: Mg is absorbed from an epson salt hot water soak. I do supplement and I do take the soaks.
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