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Discussion: Tournment Pitcher from NY looking to join a team

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Jan. 15, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Tournment Pitcher from NY looking to join a team
I just turned 60 in October. I've been playing ASA softball actively for the past 35+ years, never stopped playing softball with 20, 30 & 40 year old league division one or "A" ball players. Winner of multiple championships throughout the 90's and 2000's.

I'm well known throughout Long island as a premier high arc softball pitcher and an accomplished power hitter. My delivery is very different than most softball pitchers. I learned years ago to deliver the ball with a spin from my right thigh making turning my wrist making it very hard to pick up the ball after release. When I move my index finger to the side of the ball, it comes down on an angle jamming the batters and many times striking them out.

I recently joined a local LISSA team age 60 and older. When I told my 32 year old son and a great softball team mate/player that I joined the senior leagues his comment to me was "Dad, 20'25 year old's can't hit you, what will those geriatrics do facing you" Funny for him but I've been around this game a long time. I Never underestimate anyone, regardless of age. I replied to my son by saying more than likely, senior players have never stopped playing the game, just like me. I would expect more talent from them than you kiddies!

With that said if you can field talented players, combining me on the mound the combination will win tournaments.

You should also know that we, this senior 60's league began practicing indoors a week ago. I pitched twelve innings of one run softball.

Cerce
Jan. 15, 2013
kbl
Men's 60
528 posts
CERCE...WOW!!!!!!!
Jan. 15, 2013
short11
8 posts
Top arc is 10 Feet
Jan. 15, 2013
SSUSA Staff
1177 posts
The official allowed pitching arc for SSUSA sanctioned events is 6' to 12'. SSUSA has not adopted a 10' arc, as other associations may have done.
Jan. 16, 2013
southernson
257 posts
There are many, many, accomplished softball pitchers in the SSUSA tournaments. Bobby Davis is one of the best I've seen....

But there are also some real talented hitting teams as well. I'd pay money to see anyone keep them to one run. No, I'd put my 401K, house, and every dollar I've ever made to see that happen. Trust me, every pitcher gets lit up at times here...

Jan. 16, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
I can already see hitters lining up for this one!
Jan. 16, 2013
Ho
229 posts
They will probably have to wait awhile before facing him..heard he dislocated his shoulder patting himself on the back.

Ho
Jan. 16, 2013
rightrj1
Men's 55
208 posts
Cerce, Are you throwing underhand slow pitch? if so...Please Please Please Please bring it ON....E4 I'm in line right behind you...lol
Cerce you will get lit up like a X-mas tree....that you can take to the bank....This is the funnest thing I heard from A player since I started playing softball 35 years ago...LMAO
This is NOT a pithcer's game, it a HITTER's Game....I'm still laughing.....
Jan. 16, 2013
Olden Slow
Men's 65
175 posts
John..I'm right with you on this...I'll even use my pink bat :-o)
Jan. 16, 2013
southernson
257 posts
Ho/rigjtrj1/Olden Slow,
Now that's funny right there, still LMAO. All our players will get this in an email believe me. Even the sisters at St. Mary's Home for Unwed Mothers can't wait to get to the plate. The're gonna make it a "habit" of going up the middle....Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree...

Well, as we say in the South, this guy must be from Long Island.....
Jan. 16, 2013
BudLeftField
56 posts
Hi Cerce-I've played senior ball against some of the best teams on Long Island, i.e. Glen Cove Vikings and the Streaks from Suffolk county. They use single-wall bats and the fences are 250'. When you start pitching in tournaments around the country, you will be facing alot of great hitters with Mikens,Reeboks, and Combats. If you don't wear a face mask or shin guards you might consider doing so. Good luck.
Jan. 16, 2013
rightrj1
Men's 55
208 posts
Now that I think about it, he must have done this to get a raise out of us Old men…If he’s really serious, he’s not very smart and EVERYONE THAT I KNOW will go middle….
Every player on the field can talk trash EXCEPT the Pitcher… Unless he doesn’t care for his own safety…....I’m still laughing!!!
Jan. 16, 2013
JAC
11 posts
Just a clarification for budleftfield the bats are single walled, the balls are 40's, but the fences are 300 at least in Suffolk . We would love to hit on 250's.
Jan. 16, 2013
db14
91 posts
Guys you fell for it.....you know who this guy really is....come on. It's the legend in his own mind returning to haunt us..................Gary 19
Jan. 16, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
righrj1 - Not to me its not a hitters game! If you run down any lineup as I do, you'll understand, and I's sure you know why every hitter is put 1 through 10 for example in a batting order. Who is the patient hitter that gets on base..Lead off. The comes the guys that are supposed to get on base or move runners up. Next up... and I really love these guys cause their all free swinging hitters 4,5 and even 6. Why? DO you think they want go home and tell their wives or girlfriends they walked today or hit the ball out of the park?
With all my years of experience, and like most of the better pitchers out there today we have all their numbers & pitch by Pitch we prove it all the time! The lineup is the same, just the faces are different.
Jan. 16, 2013
BudLeftField
56 posts
Hi JAC-I played 4 years of senior softball in Suffolk Co. My home field was by the Babylon town hall. The fences were at 250' . I thought most of the other fields were too. Been in Florida the last 8 years. Alot of long Islanders down here in The Villages. We have 92,000 people here. 2500 softball players. Many travel teams. Great Soft ball facilities. Are the guys still playing at Caldonia Park?
Jan. 16, 2013
the wood
1076 posts
Cerce, I guess that you missed out on the Humility 101 class @ Iona. Perhaps you can catch the one @ NYU.
If you're half as good as you state you wouldn't have to tell us about it. Maybe you can mix in a visit to the 'I' doctor on your way home from NYU.
BW
Jan. 16, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Bob it just might be, he has too much MEat in his diet.
Missed your team in Menifee this past weekend.
Jan. 16, 2013
the wood
1076 posts
We played in Hemet (Jan 10-11) where it was about 27 degrees @ game time... and that was the best of the 2 days.
:-)
BW
Jan. 16, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
About the same in Menifee, Sunday was a bit better after the morning chill left
Jan. 16, 2013
MrBill29
Men's 70
42 posts
Who is this star???? What teams have you played and pitched for.
Anybody can make it up and you seem to be good at that.
Where can you be scouted.
Jan. 16, 2013
JAC
11 posts
Budleftfield that is the only field that. Small and they are in the lower division.
We are in the upper division along with the streaks. I am very familiar with the villages. I am hoping to arrive at my place this week.
Jan. 16, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
rightrj1 - 99% of pitchers do pitch under hand thereby "presenting the ball" if you will...of which allows hitters to easily follow the ball from that kind/type of delivery.
NOT ME! I know of no one that delivers the ball the way I do.
Totally ASA legal, flipped up from low on the thigh with a rapid spin! Up the middle? LOL Very rare no matter who's at bat. More like a weak ground out or high pop to middle infield nearly every time. Step up to the plate anytime, I'll be happy to take that 401K of ya. Ready when you are!

Jan. 16, 2013
?
82 posts
WOW!
THE CY YOUNG OF SLOW PITCH SOFTBALL.

Never heard of him.

Jan. 16, 2013
rightrj1
Men's 55
208 posts
Cerce, it's really obvious to me you’re playing in the LOWER Divisions, Most Major & Major+ Senior teams, have hitters though out the line-up. Hitters with Power, Bat Control and most important patients to adjust to what you call an underhand pitch!!(I’m still laughing), when you get ur schedule out for your season this 2013 PLEASE POST it?
I’m sure a lot guys reading this thread would LOVE to face you…..Myself included, I just hope you’re all PADDED up when we do…I’m still laughing!!
Jan. 16, 2013
JAC
11 posts
Hi budleftfield I did not answer your question yes they are. I have not but I know they are. There are several indoor facilities being used St. James, Sayville, and Lindenhurst during the winter on this.
Jan. 16, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
997 posts
Rj, are you 60 already???? OMG.. this reminds me of Jim Rome... "Hey, whats he got? what do you mean whats he got? He got 18 MPH underhand Marshmellow that's whats he got!" LMAO

http://www.softballcenter.com/news-articles/2012-news/1774-jim-rome-softball-guy.html
Jan. 16, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
rightrj1 - 99% of pitchers do pitch under hand thereby "presenting the ball" if you will...of which allows hitters to easily follow the ball from that kind/type of delivery.
NOT ME! I know of no one that delivers the ball the way I do.
Totally ASA legal, flipped up from low on the thigh with a rapid spin! Up the middle? LOL Very rare no matter who's at bat. More like a weak ground out or high pop to middle infield nearly every time. Step up to the plate anytime, I'll be happy to take that 401K of ya. Ready when you are!

Jan. 16, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
997 posts
Cerce. I would like to see you put your 401K up... I would take you up on your deal!
Jan. 16, 2013
Wayne 37
192 posts
Does this guy need:

A. Radar gun

B. A life

C. Bullsh*t detector.
Jan. 17, 2013
0
56 posts
If you are such a great pitcher....

Why are you looking for a team....

When teams should be looking for you?






Obviously your phone isn't ringing off the hook from all those offers from teams asking you to play with them.

Jan. 17, 2013
kbl
Men's 60
528 posts
CERCE...LIKE I SAID BEFORE...WOW!!!!
Jan. 17, 2013
0
56 posts
If you are such a great pitcher....

Why are you looking for a team....

When teams should be looking for you?






Obviously your phone isn't ringing off the hook from all those offers from teams asking you to play with them.

Jan. 17, 2013
southpaw
Men's 60
733 posts
Hey Cerce, is there any possibility that you could move to Alabama this year. The reason I inquire is because my team lost our 2 pitchers. I am the only one left and if you check out my message on my March 2 tourney, you will note that I cannot see very well and have arthritis.
Our defense is not very strong, so you would be expected to strike out at least the first 5-6 batters. We could possibly defense the bottom of the order as long as you do not allow them to hit very hard grounders. Although, they may need to hit a bit harder to third, because he plays so deep in the grass.
In addition, you will have to keep pitches inside on right handed batters because our left/left center fielders concentrate a bit more on the game. To lefties, please keep it outside and I will just depend on you to field when it comes up the middle.
We are not sponsored, so if possible, please bring some sponsorship with you.
Sincerely, Southpaw
Jan. 17, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
997 posts
LMAO@Southpaw! ;-)
Jan. 17, 2013
BudLeftField
56 posts
Hi JAC-Thanks for the info. do you know Joe Cataldi from the Streaks? I am playing his team tomorrow. Also, on that team is Ev Arnold, a member of the Suffolk Co. HOF as well as the National HOF. Ev played for the Glen Cove Vikings. Great hitter! So long.
Jan. 17, 2013
southpaw
Men's 60
733 posts
P.S., Cerce--since I am a lefty, I do hope you pitch right-handed, so that when I need relieved in the first or second inning, you will be even more deceptive!
Sincerely, Southpaw
Jan. 17, 2013
southernson
257 posts
Cerce,
You must wear bi-focals, that would explain the double post. Course could have been that unique delivery from the inner thigh.

So, it actually moves inside on a batter? Yeh, we're all rubes here, we only see that pitch every tournament we play.

This is no longer worth the keystrokes. BTW for the group, Cerce is the name of a hardcore punk band.....for real....
Jan. 17, 2013
JAC
11 posts
Budleftfield ,
Yes , Joe returned to the Villages yesterday. Hopefully I will be there Tuesday.
JAC
Jan. 17, 2013
MrBill29
Men's 70
42 posts
Please all Long Island Teams you played for.
Would like to hook you up with the Long Haul Bombers
Jan. 17, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
In years past Teams I played on included Gulfhaven, The Crushers, Hard knocks and Slackers to name a few you may have heard of. Senior softball will be a first for me in 2013 as it looks now Tobay Tigers Senior Softball will be the team I'll be pitching for. I don't know any of these guys having played all my life up til 2012 with younger softball players mostly mid 20's to early 30's in ages. Does it make them any better than mature players, in some cases (teams) yes. But not in all. You guys all know the drill, it's how you prepare and approach the game. So what's in an age besides respect?
Jan. 17, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Double post, yeah I saw that happen, "Wasn't me"
Jan. 18, 2013
0
56 posts
After reading his posts I'm not so sure I'd want this guy on my team.

I get the feeling he brings a potential attitude problem.


Jan. 18, 2013
BudLeftField
56 posts
Hi Cerce-I am familiar with the Tobay Tigers. They were in Div.2 last season and w31-L33. Why not play Div.1 ? TThe Glen Cove Vikings won Div.1 with a W-52 L-10 record. You would probably have more fun playing against them. Good luck.
Jan. 18, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
BudLeftField - Like I said, Senior Softball is completely new for me. I'm unfamiliar with all these senior teams and last years standings. Last season one of the elder ASA umpires that I've gotten to know over the years made mention to me about the Senior Softball leagues knowing I was soon to turn 60. And since I live in TOB he told me about the Tobay Tigers. He called me before Xmas and gave me a name and # to call. Is there a TOB Div1 team I should know about?
Jan. 18, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
0 - That's a juvenile comment for a senior!
Jan. 18, 2013
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Hi Cerce, How are you doing? There is a few of us Who would love to see this "Pitch. This motion and delivery”. Can you U-tube it and let us get a look at this Magic Pitch? Call yourself Magic Man on the Mound...that’s it We'll call You
M3 and his unhittable pitch.

So record the pitch and email it to me and I'll post it for you. You’ll be the talk of Senior Softball. Every where you go people will say “There goes M3”

Just trying to help with the PR.

What do you think?
Jan. 18, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Cerce, its a kids game we play. With your "confidence" you better thicken up your skin. I have a feeling you are in for far more ribbing then you are prepared for with your self gratifing attitude.
Prove yourself on the field, thats where it counts.
Is Tobays Tigers a tournament team or a local league team? If you want to showcase your talents, look for a tournament team, thats where the best play the best. imo
Jan. 18, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Kennard with your normal swing you can pretty well undress most middle players. I wouldnt want to see you antagonized. =)
Jan. 18, 2013
Clean Up
41 posts
Cerce thinks having an attitude problem is "juvenile".

But telling everybody he has a "special secret pitch" is not!

I don't need you on my team.

Jan. 18, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
In fairness to Cerce, he indicated he played in a high arc league. Problem is there is no high arc played in Senior softball torunament play in the recognized national associations. Therefore we are somewhat comparing horse apples to cow pies.

It should be noted:

•Your first name, Cerce, makes you self-reliant, creative in practical ways, and an independent diligent worker.

• You work best alone making your own decisions as it is not always easy for you to respond to the advice and direction of others as you feel the need to be in control.

• You enjoy the simple pleasures of life especially activities that take you outdoors.

• You have a few good friends who enjoy similar activities.

• Living much within your own thoughts and finding it challenging to communicate easily with others, you are, at times, too candid and honest in your assessment of situations.

• You feel this separation from others and would give anything to be always lighthearted and friendly instead of serious and shy.


•Although the name Cerce creates the urge to be original and self-reliant, we emphasize that it limits self-expression and friendly congeniality with a moody disposition.

•This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses heart, lungs, bronchial area, and tension or accidents to the head.
Jan. 18, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
You arent fooling me Mike, I can see you licking your chops already. =)
Jan. 18, 2013
southernson
257 posts
Anybody look at the Facebook entry yet?
Jan. 18, 2013
BudLeftField
56 posts
Cerce-the Tobay Indians finished in second place last season in Div. 1 with a record of W-44 and L-20.
Jan. 18, 2013
Player
28 posts
I would have to agree with Southernson about Bobby Davis' pitching. But, more importantly, I doubt that Cerce could even approach Bobby's power!
Jan. 18, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Southernson, either he ages very well or this is a hoax. Or the FB page may be his son/grandson.
Jan. 18, 2013
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
i'll bet that cerce is a vey good tournament pitcher. i do think that some here, have been to harsh to him. but, reality will set in, when he plays his 1st senior tourney. i think he will be a very good pitcher, but not as dominating as he is used to. cerce, seriously, hitters will lite you up, like you've never seen.
this is why;
1 we've all been playing for 50 years.
2 we swing the hottest bats in the world.
3 you can't do as much with a 12'arc.
balls come at you so... fast. i seriously hope, you will gear up with cather leg guards and a mask. i always wear my leg guards as many pitchers do. i only rarely wear the mask, but very glad i have it. good luck to you. i wish some of the guys were as friendly on here, as they are on the field.most will not go strait up the middle,but accidents happen often. i think the guys are just having fun.
Jan. 18, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
If you haven't noticed posted by SSUSA Staff Jan 15 - The official allowed pitching arc for SSUSA sanctioned events is 6' to 12'. SSUSA has not adopted a 10' arc, as other associations may have done.
Jan. 18, 2013
short11
8 posts
Yeah, good luck with that 12 ft., in fact good luck with the 10 ft.
Jan. 18, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Pitcher55 - so you started playing when you were 5? And when was the last time you played with 20/30 year olds three decades ago? Hottest bats? you call single wall hottest bats? How about facing guys that are in the prime of their lives swinging bats you can't use in SSUSA play. ASA set the maximum BBS value, effective January 2004, to be 98-mph. SSUSA see forum Discussion: Hit today a 275 by 52 ball. See also SSUSA softball specs.
Jan. 18, 2013
Omar Khayyam
989 posts
Cerce, if you get on a good SSUSA team, you will discover for yourself what the guys are trying to say on this board (some of them in a denigrating and clumsy fashion). The SSUSA senior bats that are allowed are seriously hot—hotter than any single wall, hotter than a double wall, hotter than the notorious titanium bats of old. They are composite bats and have a trampoline effect. The average extra distance over a double wall seems to be 30 to 40 feet, depending on the hitter.

In addition, the sweet spot on these composites is enormous! It is almost the whole barrel. Some guys can hit them out by hitting on the handle. With this expanded sweet spot, not only does the ball come faster and go farther, more hits have this extra distance because the bat is so forgiving.

And the 12 foot arc, although allowed, is not always called a legal pitch by a surprisingly large number of umps. Some are used to the 10 foot limit in other associations and routinely call even an 11 foot pitch as illegal.

And yes, there are many, many excellent hitters in SSUSA who have learned to use the composite technology to their advantage (shoot, some of them were excellent sluggers and high average hitters with the old wood bats). They typically use a lighter weight composite bat for more bat control since the technology gives them all the power they need to reach the fence.

This is why many an excellent pitcher finds it very difficult to dominate a game as is possible in an unlimited arc league or one where "trickery" is allowed. And even though it seems to violate the laws of physics, most pitchers can curve a ball with an arc, and many can throw screwballs as well, and the dancing knuckle ball is not uncommon. Let us know how you fare this summer with your innovative pitch.
Jan. 19, 2013
Pull My Finger
69 posts
Cerce

canIjack made you an offer to show this "Magic Pitch" you claim to have on U-tube.

WHY DON'T YOU MAN UP AND TAKE HIM UP ON HIS OFFER?


Jan. 19, 2013
The real deal
Men's 60
63 posts
C'mon guys, give Cerce a break - you don't know him like I do. Although I've never met him, we've been maintaining a close relationship these last few years online. He has impressed me with his pitching skills - truly a future HOF candidate.He has been an inspiration to me, and I will cherish our relationship for the rest of my life

Sincerely,

Notre Dame grad.
Jan. 19, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Pull- re canjack, When we get into regular season game play. Full teams with umpires sure why not. I will have someone take a video of me pitching and post it to youtube. You can easily do that with most camera phones today and post vids seconds later.

Omar - With hitting you work the count, same goes for pitching, working different ball heights in or out, deep or short etc. I'm sure premier pitchers in SSUSA know exactly what I'm talking about. Another thing, I never pitched on teams with unlimited arc, always 6' to 12". Yes I have seen umps of all ages calling the 11' or 12' pitch illegal many times. You learn or know how to adjust. And I'll have to adjust to looking behind myself before the first pitch is thrown of any inning...not seeing guys under 35 on the field.

The 1.20 BPF standard is used by the ASA, USSSA, NSA, ISF and other associations. The BBS is highest in ASA.
SEE MESSAGE BOARD HERE: Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls

Jan. 19, 2013
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
cerce. i'm 59,been playing since age 7. yes, i play twice a week with the young men.
i was nice to you, and you just want to fire back at me, like a self centered arogant a-hole. you don't know bats like the rest of us. you have now made yourself a target. your biggest fan is YOU!!! i'm sure you know the game very well, but you have made an ass out of yourself when it comes to senior ball. shut up and go home!! senior bats are 1.21 bpf!!!
Jan. 20, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Pitcher55 - Nice to me? I think not!!! I took offense to your last comment to me. Perhaps you should re read it. What? you think your the only guy alone, exclusive to your post reference 1,2 & 3? You don't know me, nothing about me and yet your comment as many here are prejudging me. You call that fair? I don't! Did I go bashing anyone here that either poked fun at me or like you, calling me names (A-Hole)..NO! Self Centered me? Not at all! Go back and read what others are saying to me that don't know me, or anything about me but yet they post as though I was born yesterday regarding this game. You just couldn't wait to join them all couldn't you?. The comment I made in my last post regarding bats was copied and pasted from the message board here, didn't you get that? I'm fully aware of and own myself a Reebock Melee Legend bat 1.21BPF. Maxload. And by the way, my first and original post was not for local play, for out of state tournament play February or March. Like many here you just read past that part. Go back and re read it. I'm just a regular guy, a pitcher looking to play the game I know and love. You got a problem with that tell it to the hand!
Jan. 20, 2013
kbl
Men's 60
528 posts
COERCE....WOW!!!again.....thanks, ken
Jan. 20, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
BBS for ASA is 98, all other associations except Senior use the 1.20bpf which have BBS of 100+. Most seniors have been playing this game for 30+ years and we have seen many different stunts over the years. My pitcher turns 60 this year and I have watched him eat up many a young stud. The good hitters adjust and hit their pitch, not yours.Experienced old farts like us don't fall for gimmicks, we've seen them all. Hiding the ball might work in hardball where the pitch is coming at 90+, but in softball your not gonna fool anybody, who has any experience. Good luck, and I know you will enjoy senior softball .
Jan. 20, 2013
TAT22
14 posts
Cerce, glad your coming out and playing, unfortunately you won't be playing in my division. Since you've been playing with the younger guys till this year, you should try to get on a 50M or 50M+ team. Good luck this year, hope to see you at some world toruneys and I'll definitely look for you in Vegas.
Jan. 21, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
593 posts
You know - a lot of teams from NY (hey Yo) have been playing together for many many many years, decades. It's a pretty close knit and well informed "club". The pool of players and their knowledge of each other is good and long on memory.

This seems like a put on thread.

Surely SOMEBODY must know of this wonderguy ..... until someone comes on that has actual seen/met/played with or against I'm not sure this thread deserves anymore attention.

The writing and phrasing do seem to conger up ghosts of Christmas past. There was another self proclaimed great pitcher with love of self - last I'd heard he'd given up 23 runs in one inning somewhere and after that was not playing anymore at the request of the team.

If, per chance, he does exist I also would love to hit against him.

Either he is going to educate the rest of us or he is going to receive an education he's been waiting 60 years to get.

I'll bet on the latter.......but I think it's someone yanking our collective chain.
Jan. 21, 2013
Snot Nose Kid
39 posts
My team could use a BP pitcher!

Jan. 21, 2013
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Hey M3(cercy), I'll be waiting for the video. "DON'T BE A..... COME ON MAN"
Jan. 21, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LIST OF ILLEGAL BATS FOR Long Island Senior Softball
ALL MIKEN BATS ILLEGAL, Nearly all Dimarini bats are illegal. Voodoo; Vendetta; The One are Illegal.

http://lissascoreboard.com/illegalbats.htm
Jan. 21, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
Guys you are being a little rough on someone new to Senior Softball. It is reasonable to assume that once he starts playing on the tourney circuit, his opinions may change. Personally I believe that this is more of a catfishing situation than some real individual making those statements.

And yes John, I am interested in seeing what Cerce has to bring to the table. I have been fortunate to have been on the dish when some really good pitchers were my teammates. Manny, Gombos, Flip, Ray Ray and I have faced some outstanding pitchers over my 42 years of softball. That being said, it is still underhand and their success is usually determined by their ability to field the middle when combined with pitch location.

If Cerce is for real then I can only say in my best Mac Davis imitation. Oh Lord it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way.

Cerce/MD time to video up. I believe Steve Imlay is in Florida this week shooting a video with Bogey, you might want to swing down there for a little face time.
Jan. 21, 2013
Cerce
Men's 60
17 posts
Scroll down to see the Legal Only LISSA bats


http://lissascoreboard.com/illegalbats.htm
Jan. 21, 2013
Snot Nose Kid
39 posts
Who cares what bats are legal in LISSA?




Jan. 21, 2013
pattontax
10 posts
Ron, I look forward to hitting off this guy. Hopefully, I can reach the co-ed line.
Jan. 21, 2013
garyheifner
354 posts
The above ain't nothing. At the winter nationals in Ft. Meyers this year, at the 65 AAA level, I pitched a PERFECT game and we won 1-0.

In the top of the 1st, I got them 3 up and 3 down.

In the bottom, we got 1 run.

The skies opened and washed out all the prelim games.

Not my fault-inning rules-irrelevant--act of GOD.

I am claiming a perfect game, that's my story and I am sticking to it!!!
Jan. 21, 2013
CAPT D5
124 posts
Cerce , It often appears that in old man softball ability is a disadvantage in getting on a new team. It often threatens existing players positions and pride. You will likely be attacked for having an attitude as a way to protect them and their status. A lot of BS goes with the senior game. Many good players can't stomach the ego games. So if you brag be prepared for attacks. My suggestion is find friends to play with and have fun. These golden years are precious and not to be wasted trying to get admiration from self absorbed old men. Good luck,
Jan. 21, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
997 posts
Cerce=pinata in SSUSA just saying!
Jan. 22, 2013
southernson
257 posts
This stuff is funny....
Jan. 22, 2013
Leoslocks
Men's 60
45 posts
Have you ever pitched to the plate and the mat? Takes the umpire out of the judgement of strikes. Now the batter knows what he can take or has to swing at.
Senior softball = Ultra II bats and beyond.

Unless you are a troll, you will have no trouble getting on a team. One other thing, there a re a lot of 10 and 11 hitters batting 700+ for the tournament.
Jan. 22, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
732 posts
D5, I don't know where you play softball, but I have never seen talent as an obstacle in playing on a new team. Now attitude is a different animal. There are many good ball players not asked because of their insistence of emphasis on the me in team as opposed to the team as a whole.

I will agree the thread has been a little harsh, but seriously you don't stand on a soap box and boast without willing to suffer the consequences.

I agree with your statement about playing with friends, life is too short not too spend it with people you enjoy being around.

So it boils down to words are words and actions are facts. We, the softball community, look forward to welcoming new players into our group. After all we are not getting younger. Come knowing, that past success does not always translate into future success. More importantly league play does not always translate into tourney caliber results.

CERCE/MD may be the best to hit the scene in years, but until he has proven so, he is just promoting a product that is not on the market.
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