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Discussion: What is 400 feet....

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March 21, 2013
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
What is 400 feet....
There has been a lot of discussion about 'home runs of length'-i.e. 350 to 400 feet or more. I found that a lot of guys were way off in assessing length, so I am offering this observation when watching a long one. Home plate to the pitchers mound is(for the sake of simplicity) 50 feet. Not too far when you consider it on it's own. But if you were to mentally take that short distance outside the fence, you would realize, especially at Major and Major Plus that it is not that far over the 300 foot fence to give you a 350 foot shot.
The 400 foot shot can use the same type of comparison. Using the Pythagorean Theorem, we find that with 70 foot bases that second base from the plate is almost exactly 99 feet (square root of 4900 + 4900 or 9800). Taking that mental image outside a 300 foot fence gives you a 400 foot shot, approximately. I saw many of those last year playing with Steve Imlay, Fred Purvis, Mike Adair, and against a whole host of incredible power hitters at 60 Major Plus. I also saw some against some major teams-who had guys hit them just as far. The balls in the Combat Dirty video that were hitting the cement parking lot were right around 400 and some went farther than that.
So, when talking about these guys and their distance, 400 is not an uncommon shot.
March 21, 2013
boston
297 posts
If 400 ft is not uncommon in Major plus. Why are they not playing on larger fields? Seems like a joke for them to play on the avg. 300 foot field.
March 21, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2614 posts
This past weekend in Montgomery one of the Adictive players hit one over the trees onto a building. Yesterday I went to earth.google.com and measured it, 428' to the front edge of the building. Quite a long shot!
March 21, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
719 posts
Webbie, I thought the only distance you cared about was how far the resturants with the best prime rim was from the ballfield or hotel.

Seriously though, 400' is a long ways, there are balls that go that far, but I believe the majority of the HRs at the 60 Major+ level are bewteeen 315-350 range.

Stealing this from Steele's. There are two kinds of HRs marked in the book. HR and OM....Home Run and OH MY...OMs are show stoppers.
March 21, 2013
Garocket
Men's 55
141 posts
softball4b those 400 ft shots are called the OOOOOOOOH_AAAAAAAAYYYYY shots


Its OOOOOOOOOOH on the way up and AAAAAAAAAAYYY on the way down
March 21, 2013
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
They should paly all Major plus tourneys on baseball fields. At least on fields that are 325 all the way around. I hit with 2 other guys are we are consistenly hitting 400 ft. homers. Or better yet make the Major plus guys use USSSA bats, and test them like do in young kids ball.
March 21, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
980 posts
Mario, we play here on a field in Hayward that is 320ft.. it's a good distance for the senior game.. 325 sounds fair enough... major plus guys using utrip bats is an Idea, however you are opening up the cheaters door. One reason I left the kids game is I refuse to cheat or be cheated on. Our game everyone has a hot bat... kids game is not a level playing field as far as bat cheats go. IMO
March 21, 2013
Tim Millette
476 posts
Man I hate admitting this....I thing Swing is right on the money.
March 21, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
980 posts
Baby steps Timmy... it's not hard! ;-)
March 22, 2013
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
Boston-we do play a lot of 320-325, but a majority of fields are just not built to accomodate fences that far. Really, the number of guys with that capability is not that long. I guess I should amend my observation that 400 feet is not as uncommon as you might think, but it is a special shot to see. Anyone our age-60+, that can hit one that far is amazing, with any bat.
Mike, prime rim? I can't believe you are 'ribbing' me about that? Those Prime Ribs add at least 32 inches to my longest shots. I need that to get them to barely clear the infield. I do agree with the 315-350 for most homers.
March 22, 2013
Donny C
54 posts
Webbie, 400 feet is one heck of a shot no matter how we look at it. Your pythagorean theorm, I will accept your word for that as I have absoulutly no knowledge of that, it explains why I am poor at math. I enjoy seeing someone hit a ball like that I have seen them since the late 60's. Yes, even with the old bats always some folks could just put a ball into orbit. The right combination of power, bat speed, coordination makes what Garocket calls the OOOOOOOOOH_AAAAAAAAAYYYYYY shots. I have seen too many of these shots unfortunately to many from the pitchers mound, but have to respect those shots. I love seeing men in our age group hit those shots just not off of me. My 5'5" frame has never allowed me to hit it that far but would love to just once hit perhaps with a gale force behind me. You guys that can do it keep on. 300 325 foot fields are plenty big enough normally do not see that many long shots in a game, no different than years ago with shorter fences and poor balls and by todays standards poor bats. It is spring and we have only gotten 19" of snow in last few days, I am jealous of you folks in warm climates. We may get on the field by late May.lol This was a good thread, some humour good info and no bashing, wow. From the frozen Northwoods of MI take care, Donny C.
March 22, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
980 posts
one other thing Webbie...here in north cal at sealevel 400 ft means a bit more than a shot in Reno or Vegas!
March 22, 2013
Tim Millette
476 posts
I am sure a guy so smart to know the pathagorean theory should have no problem enlightening those of us "more challenged".... What the mathematical difference in struck ball distance would be from C level to Reno?
March 22, 2013
JamesLG
296 posts

Good question Tim:

I do believe hitting a ball 400' has a lot to do with conditions. We played the other night in 40 degree temp with a hard wind blowing out and balls were flying on our field. I have never hit a ball 400' but that night hit one that landed in a spot I have never touched.

I get to watch the NW legends 50 M+ team play in our local tourneys and they hit quite a few in the 400' range.

Thanks:

James
March 22, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
980 posts
Tim, I already know that there is a 6 to 8 percent gain... Do your homework Timmy and look for yourself!
March 23, 2013
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
I wondered when someone would comment on my tongue in cheek use of the Pythagorean theory. They estimate in golf that the difference is about 10% for every 5000 feet, but as you know there are other factors involved. Humidity, shape of the ball after these senior super bats hit them a few times (except for the rock which stays consistently spherical), temperature (there is also a theorem that calculates how much further a ball goes on a cold day compared to a warm one as long as the bat does not break), and of course, muscle tone of the hitter combined with breathing the thinner air which provides less oxygen to the lungs and therefore decreases the strength of the hitter by .00243 percent. The actual answer for Remo vs. sea level is then 8.4952348 percent.

Thank you.
March 23, 2013
tg69
304 posts
What is 400 feet? The carrier of 2000 little pigs!!!! Nothing more, nothing less
March 23, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
980 posts
Damn Webbie, you sound like Einstien... LMAO I already said what you said in a few words.. 6 to 8 percent ;)
March 25, 2013
sliplayer
Men's 60
70 posts
Webie

I still believe 400 ft is a long ways. I know lots of factors but still a long ways.

SLi
March 25, 2013
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
It's a popup for you, Steve, but a dream for most of the rest of us.
March 25, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
719 posts
WEBBIE,keep kissing Steve's butt and Patti won't get within a 100' of you.
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