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Discussion: New Worth Legit 2 Piece Senior 1st test results.....

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June 27, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
New Worth Legit 2 Piece Senior 1st test results.....
Hey guys,
Just got back from the field after putting the first 60 swings on the new Legit 2 Piece. Initial thoughts....? Not too shabby, so here you go.
The balance point was very similar to the Miken 2 piece mid load. (Go figure...Worth and Miken are jointly owned by the Jarden Corp) that being said...I think the bat has a good swing / feel to it. I am predominately an end loaded bat swinger but I can see how this bat may appeal to either a balanced or end loaded guy. Another quick thought...one of the better feeling and performing bats from Worth so far. As you know the original 510 was a good bat, the followup 510 was just ok and for the last two years the Toxic and 454 Senior were what I call 50/50 bats...50% were ok and the other 50 were not good. If you got a good one, it didn't last long so I always felt there were more consistent choices out there. So let's get down to the new Legit....
Out of the wrapper initial performance was good as we used 44/375 balls at about a 305' fence. They bat felt good and for a 2 piece bat performed well. As with most 2 piece versions, balls hit towards the end of the barrel flexed the bat slightly and did not travel well or respond off the barrel quickly. Balls hit down the barrel resulted in the same but....hit it in the right spot and a nice sharp sound occurs along with crisp line drives and some fairly long balls. In summary, a nice feeling bat with decent pop and certainly one of the better bats that Worth has come up with for us seniors. Remember , I am only at the 60 hit mark as i was also testing another new bat so stay tuned for further developments...
As always, get with me with any questions or if you need anything for your game.
Alan Tanner
Team1 Sports
561-718-7504
June 28, 2013
Ugly Stick
Men's 60
20 posts
I put a post on here a while ago about this bat. I think the bat is a real good bat. I would put it up against any of the senior bats out there today. To me they are all about the same. I have been hitting mine out here in Vegas and yesterday it was 100 degrees. I hit the 52/300 balls along with some 47/375. Bat played well. Very well.

Ugly Stick
June 28, 2013
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
187 posts
I saw Don Clatterbaugh swinging it this past weeked in Salem. He was hitting line drives into the trees with this bat.

Gorilla Boy
June 28, 2013
Beasley
Men's 50
169 posts
Yeah but Clatterbaugh could hit line drives into the trees with a broomstick. And don't think you're going to shift around on him or he'll "dink" it to left and just smile at ya from first base.
June 28, 2013
DoubleL10
Men's 65
836 posts
To the best of my recollection, Clatta swings only Worth bats. And Beasley is correct; Clatta could turn the bat upside down and swing the barrel and still hit them out!
July 2, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
We were able to hit again yesterday with the Legit. We now have app. 125 swings with the bat. We had a pretty good breeze blowing out so performance factors were a little overblown... Lol however, the bat continues to perform well and doesn't have a mark on it. Great finish on the exterior and its holding up so far. More to come later in the week....
Alan
Team 1 Sports
July 2, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
It's amazing to me that someone can put 125 swings on a bat - downplay the results because of wind blowing out (LOL) and brag about the GREAT exterior finish.

Let's find some bats that have the performance we want - at a price that is fair - with a longevity factor built in.

Having played againt Clatta and respecting his ballin' abilities and teamanship (word?) let's see what this bat turns out to be.

No teasers needed - seems like outright salesmanship as opposed to a frank, pratical evaluation.

We're not spinning a cash register here (or are we) - if we are going to evaluate bats let's do it without the tease...what are we selling - paint jobs on cars? Get the Diamond coat......

If I want to buy Turtle Way versus Simonize I will. If I'm interested in buying a bat let's hear/see a real report - not a billboard.

This isn't Burma-Shave - although most in Burma (Mymmar) don't need to shave either so I guess that was hype also.....

Stop with the road signs to keep you name in lights - post for real - thanks Mike for the frank low down
July 2, 2013
big cat7
Men's 50
96 posts
What is this rant actually about,car wax or bats?The guy gave an honest opinion on what he thought of the performance of the bat not trying to sell it
July 2, 2013
Perl
110 posts
4X4

Tri18 is a very knowledgable source on bats. While he does sell bats he sells many manufacturers equipment and only gave an honest critique on the Legit.

Tri18 is the guy that designed and sells the Combat Ambush. He could easily be critical of all bats except for the Ambush, however he tests and gives an honest opinion on all bats.

Alan, thanks for your reports.
July 2, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Yeah - sometimes I get tired of the faux commercialism on a board that is not supposed have "Advertising for commercial product, servies, or websites" followed up with a phone number in case you need anything for your game.....

It's a high wire act.....
July 2, 2013
boogpow44
52 posts
Don't be such a stick in the mud 4x4. It's nice to hear bat reviews by seniors for seniors. I would rather purchase from someone who has hit a multitude of bats rather then just order from some Internet retailer, at least he shows a sincere interest in helping softball players reach their potential.
July 2, 2013
Fabe
Men's 50
225 posts
Alan is legit! He sells much more than bats and has an open door with assisting anyone with a real interest! Aloha, Fabe
July 2, 2013
bkb555
94 posts
Being a worth guy for the past 8-10 bats I have used, this 2 piece sounds very similar to my Jeff Hall Mutant that I still have (for sale if you want it...lol)it had a .5 ounce end load and the sweet spot although very sweet, it was relatively small compared to my 454 Legit one piece that I use in U trip (yellow one from alan BTW)today.....I am sure they worked out the issue with telescoping of the bats etc but performance I believe will probably be similar with maybe a bit more pop because the sr. bats are a little thin walled to begin.....I hope worth hit a homerun with the bat but I would like to hear people who have used a Mutant side by side with the 2 piece Legit and compare notes....That would be a true test comparison
July 3, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
4x4,
If you hit in the conditions that were there you would understand my statement. It's very hard to compare statistics and not a fair comparison to evaluate a bat on a day when wind is blowing directly out at 20 mph versus a day when wind is blowing across a field at 5-7 mph. What I do with every bat I test is give an honest and fair evaluation based on true results not on urban legend and certainly with no bias towards any company. I have dealt with design and testing way back to the single wall CU31 days and have been providing factual information for many years to players interested in that. Yes, I do sell bats from most of the bat company's but I believe in giving guys honest evaluations and then try and help them select what will best compliment their swing and their game. Since I am a Senior player, I specialize in the needs of the senior game. Best of luck to you with the bat you select.

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
July 3, 2013
JDub
Men's 50
150 posts
Tri18 = Honest Abe

Some of us have not reached the Grouchy Old Man Status yet, so keep doing what you do ! ! !

BTW, we were Ambushed in French Valley, CA by 30mph winds Howling in from Left-Center. AZ Elite was unable to produce 1 Homer in that game, although Nazzareno I believe hit 2 or 3, and managed to come back and beat us in the 1 Game Championship Game in 8 innings (LOL) ! ! !


Have Fun, be Safe,
Jeff White #7
AZ Elite 50M+
July 3, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
597 posts
Alan - Every day on the field is a good day regardless of wind in - out - or sideways and I'll take your word for the evaluation and the approach.

We're all selective about our bats and the evaluations seem to run the gamut both for and against depending on the evaluators. We really don't know until we take it out an swing indivually as each of our swings and techniques/games are different.
When I first started the post it was tongue in cheek because of the "nice finish" but then it took a turn somewhere and got too wordy.

God knows there's no virgins on this message board to protect.

Sometimes it seems like there's multiple threads going with something to sell as the underlying message. Best to you as well.





July 7, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
Good morning guys!
It's a beautiful Sunday here in Florida and I hope it's this nice where you are too...! A short update on the 2 piece Legit....we are at 195 swings on the bat.
4x4, the finish is still good! Lol Seriously though, I mention that as so far there is no visible webbing or even a mark or scratch on the matte finish. Kudos to them on that. Think about smashing something against a solid object 200 times as hard as you can with no visible wear and tear? Good job Worth. As we know, the bat could shatter at any moment but so far, so good. Performance remains consistent....no huge gains but a good solid performer. I think one of its best attribute at this point is its balance point/swing weight. This is basically a balanced bat but most of us testing it prefer end weighting. But....all of us agree on it being somewhat forgiving and having a nice feel. Several times during testing we have each a not so perfect swing but were able to somewhat "correct on the fly" and get a favorable result. I will continue with it this week and update you accordingly. At this point, certainly a viable option for people who prefer the feel of a balanced bat.

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
Tricoach18@att.net
July 8, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
240 hits and all is well...
Alan
Team 1 Sports
July 9, 2013
cop298
6 posts
I have bought two in the past several months...the knobs broke on both before 100 swings
July 9, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
443 posts
I would totally discount everything cop298 has said above. There is no name or other info on his profile and he has made only 2 posts. The other post was in April and said the same thing about a
Miken. 4 broken knobs on 4 bats????? draw your own conclusion.
July 9, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
he has a vice like grip on his lower hand... chicken choking! :-)
July 10, 2013
cop298
6 posts
just because I don't live on here and post daily does not mean in did not happen... my first post about the miken knob breaking was my first bat...I bought another one about a month ago and the same thing happen... I have used miken for years and im a huge fan. but if u ever run into Chicago prime ill be glad to explain it to you
July 13, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
Didn't your mom tell you to trust the police? It appears that the COP Iquite the prophet....at about hit number 340 yesterday....I was left with a Worth bat knob in my hand. The bat was still performing well at that point with no visible cracks but there appears to be a knob welding issue here. I will be speaking with the engineers next week and sending the bat in to them for examination.
More to come....

Alan Tanner
Tricoach18@att.net
July 13, 2013
DCPete
238 posts
So how would this Legit compare to the prior Worth 454 Senior bat?
July 13, 2013
Tri18
647 posts
DC,
There is no comparison. The 454 was marginal at best and when you did get a good one it broke. That being said, I have only tested one Legit thus far. I usually like to test at least 2 or 3 before I make up my mind. This one appears promising but I am receiving another one from Worth this week to also put through the paces. Btw...I will be in Dalton, GA on Thursday and you can always call me if you have questions or need anything.
Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
561-718-7504
July 13, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1006 posts
Tri, you should of rubbed some wintercrest on the knob! ;-)
July 13, 2013
Fabe
Men's 50
225 posts
Stop gripping your bats so tight! Man you guys need to come to the Tropics and learn to chill and pick up surfing! Ha, Ha....Aloha, Fabe
July 13, 2013
PJ3P
Men's 50
77 posts
I will agree with Alan that this bat is "Legit". I put about 60 swings on it and really liked it.
It is very forgiving especially for a balanced bat. And the fact that it has lasted 340 swings after some of the bombs that I have seen it hit is very good.

Oct. 5, 2013
bkb555
94 posts
OK...so I have about 200 swings on my sr. worth 2 piece and it has come alive!!!!!....I would compare it to the Reebok that I have .....the ball is really jumping off the bat with line drives and fly balls...LONG fly balls...if you have the patience to work in the bat and I mean work it by lots of BP, then you will be happy....I have not seen any spider cracks or webbing or hairlines so I think it might be more durable than a lot of the sr. bats.....I guess Worth doesn't get the love of a lot of people but give it a chance.....you can get them pretty reasonable online and you can get that under the radar, sleeper bat for a great price.....now I have to decide which bat to use in the upcoming tourney....decisions decisions..reebok...worth....reebok....worth
Oct. 26, 2013
leftybob
Men's 50
69 posts
Interested in seeing more reviews. Any updates
Oct. 26, 2013
bkb555
94 posts
as of this time, I would not yet put it in the category of a Reebok Melee BUT, this bat is really crushing the ball...if the Melee was an A+ then the Worth is an A-.....the ball jumps off the bat but it takes a long time and a lot of live hits at BP to break it in....once it breaks in, you will know....you have to use it on a fenced field though because some of the hits are very deceiving....a line drive turns into a 310 foot homer and you say, "That went out?"....if you are on an open field you wont get the perception of distance as well....just get one on the cheap and keep using it...give it time and you will enjoy it
Oct. 30, 2013
Gonedeep43
11 posts
I received this bat on Thursday and used it on Saturday in Cathedral City. Let me just say, I took minimum BP with it and on my 2nd at bat, I crushed a ball out of Yankee Stadium opposite field. I found this bat needed little break in time for this bat to work well. To me, this has been one of the best if not the best senior bat I've swung in quite awhile. Very balanced, but with a small end load. I dig the bat, I think Worth has a winner here. : )
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