http://www.seniorsoftballstore.com

 
SIGN IN:   Password     »Sign up

Message board   »Message Board home    »Sign-in or register to get started

Online now: 0 members ; 44 anonymous
Change topic:

Discussion: Thrown Ball

Posted Discussion
Aug. 28, 2014
Softballer48
Men's 65
23 posts
Thrown Ball
Set-Up: Runners on 1st and 2nd; Batter hits a ground ball into the outfield. The runners have not aquired 2nd and 3rd when the outfielder throws the ball towards the infield. The thrown ball goes through the infield and hits the on-deck player in the foot and goes into the dug out. The on deck batter tried to avoid the ball but it hit his foot anyway. The umpire in this case called the batter out (3rd out) for interference. Was this the right call?
Aug. 28, 2014
Softballer48
Men's 65
23 posts
Should have said interference by the on deck batter, causing the ball to go out of play.
Aug. 29, 2014
Softballer48
Men's 65
23 posts
SSUSA Staff.....PLEASE comment on this!
Aug. 29, 2014
stick8
1301 posts
Had a similar play umpiring a USSSA C nit a couple years ago. Runners on first and second with two outs. Batter gets a base hit to right field. Runner on second attempts to score. Throw from right field is up the third base line and hits the on-deck batter. Dead ball interference. The LEAD RUNNER ON BASE is declared out, end of inning. The ruling should be the same in your situation.
Aug. 29, 2014
B.J.
56 posts
I dont like automatic bail out calls...If the ball was thrown that far off line and there was no chance for the defense to make a play on the runner and the ball hits the on deck batter who was trying to avoid the ball then I would have called dead ball and sent the runners back to there previous base....now if the on deck batter was in the field of play picking up a bat then I would have interference
Aug. 29, 2014
B.J.
56 posts
let me add one thing to that scenario...many times in tour ball the offense seems to have the need to have 4 or 5 guys on deck milling around.....if that happened i would have interfernce on the play and call runner out just to punish them for being stupid
Aug. 29, 2014
stick8
1301 posts
BJ it's not a bailout call at all. Its designed to protect the defense. There's no difference whether a thrown ball by the defense hits the on deck batter if he's standing watching the play or if he's picking up a bat. In either case he's in the field of play--live ball territory. Why would you call interference on one but not the other?
Aug. 29, 2014
B.J.
56 posts
because if he was standing in the on deck circle where he belongs and the defense fails to stop/catch a thrown ball from the outfield I would not penalize the offense...OP also said he tried to avoid the ball hitting him...Offensive teams are allowed 2 base coaches and an on deck batter to be out of the dugout. Now if batter was near home plate picking up a bat or just standing there that would be different....then I would have interference
Aug. 29, 2014
baseballbill
17 posts
What if it hits the base coach, What is the ruling??????
Aug. 29, 2014
B.J.
56 posts
if the base coach is in his designated coaches box and in my judgement didnt intentionaly interfere with the play i would have a dead ball and return the runners if they advavced after the ball hitting the coach
Aug. 29, 2014
paul0784
Men's 60
138 posts
The on deck batter has the right to be on the field as well as the umpire and base coaches. If any of those get hit it is a live ball and if the ball goes out of play after that then it is a dead ball and the umpire awards bases at the time of the release of the throw. If a ball hits an umpire he is part of the playing field so it is live unless it goes out of the field of play after hitting him.
Aug. 29, 2014
Softballer48
Men's 65
23 posts
paul0784:
I thought the same as you.....There was no intent by the on-deck
hitter to try and interfer. I just cann't find an answer to this in SSUSA Rule Book.
Aug. 29, 2014
titanhd
Men's 50
335 posts
Hi Stick. I beg to differ on your opinion.The ball is immediately dead once it hits the on deck hitter. It doesn't matter where the ball went after if hit the on deck hitter. The act of interference MUST be with a fielder attempting to make a play on the runner weather intentional or not. Per the Interference definition. I see no interference.

in this case I see dead ball- runners stay at last base touched before dead ball.
Aug. 29, 2014
whiterice
2 posts
On deck batter is legally on deck. My opinion is dead ball when it hit the on deck batter and bases loaded. no out recorded and no additional bases allowed after the single.
Aug. 29, 2014
whiterice
2 posts
How can he call the batter out when he hit a single ?
Aug. 29, 2014
titanhd
Men's 50
335 posts
whiterice. I agree .
Aug. 30, 2014
stick8
1301 posts
Titanhd I cited what the rule is in a USSSA game. Your correct, upon reading the SSUSA rule, it is different. In both cases it's referred to as a blocked ball. In SSUSA it's a dead ball and runners go back to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. But if the blocked ball prevented the defense from making an out the runner being played on is called out. In USSSA if a member of the offensive team or their equipment cause a blocked ball it's considered interference. Play stops, the ball is dead and the most advanced runner is called out.
Sign-in to reply or add to a discussion or post your own message and start a new discussion. If you don't have a message board account, please register for a free nickname. It will only take a moment.
Senior Softball-USA
Phone: (916) 326-5303
Fax: (916) 326-5304
2701 K Street, Suite 101A
Sacramento, CA 95816
Send us e-mail
Senior Softball-USA is dedicated to informing and uniting the Senior Softball Players of America and the World. Senior Softball-USA sanctions tournaments and championships, registers players, writes the rulebook, publishes Senior Softball-USA News, hosts International Softball Tours and promotes Senior Softball throughout the world. More than 1.5 million men and women over 40 play Senior Softball in the United States today. »SSUSA History  »Privacy policy

Follow us on Facebook

Partners