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Discussion: Impact players

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Jan. 12, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
Impact players
Hey Gang, The SPA has just came out with a list of impact players. I am not on the list. I need to practice more. What do you think and what does this mean. I do recognize some names in the 60s. Thanks Harry
Jan. 12, 2012
DoubleL10
Men's 65
809 posts
Harry, I don't understand it - I sent your name in! I know there are several guys who are not on the list who should be!
Jan. 12, 2012
Duke
Men's 60
695 posts
Hey John Sadler, I did not see your name on the list either. I looked all over the 70 and older names twice. LOL!

Andy Smith,
55 Major
Jan. 12, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
Larry you made the list. When i grow up I want to be just like you.
Jan. 13, 2012
softball4b
Men's 60
719 posts
Charlie Carter "CC" should be on that list as an impact player. Especially if you saw my finger and toe, after the shot I tried to catch in Hemet. LOL
Jan. 13, 2012
OTE24
Men's 65
122 posts
Andy, I'm just glad to put last year behind and get back out this year. How many of our guys are on this list? I'm sure you're on it.
Harry, You're on everybody's list as a great ambassador for senior softball.
Mike, Hope you're ok ,see you sometime this year. Don't want to pitch to you,might pull a neck muscle watching the ball go out.
John Sadler
Jan. 13, 2012
Duke
Men's 60
695 posts
Hey John,

Glad to hear that you will be playing again. The only list our guys made was the injured reserve list. LOL! No one knows who we are, except that we won the Phoenix Worlds somehow a while back. Hope to see you out there this spring and summer, if it all works out that way. I play my last tournament this weekend, then off to hibernation for 3 months.

Take care,

Andy Smith,
55 Major
Jan. 13, 2012
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
MIKE, 1ST OF ALL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE YOUR GLOVE!!
2ND, HOW ABOUT THE BOMB CC HIT AGAINST US!!
Jan. 13, 2012
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2614 posts
Maybe someone that knows what the Impact Players List is will post here. I've been told that it won't go into effect until 2013 and that 2012 will be used to fine tune the list.
Jan. 13, 2012
crusher
Men's 70
388 posts
BruceinGa got this on page 45 of SPA rules. C


IMPACT PLAYER RULE


Impact Player List Players declared as “Impact Players” by way of the Official SPA Impact Players list (as published on the SPA web site - http://www.softballspa.com)will be limited to play in the Major Plus and Major classifications only, and will no longer be eligible to play in the AAA or AA programs
Jan. 13, 2012
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2614 posts
Crusher, yes, that's exactly what I was told. It surprises me to hear that it's in the rules for 2012.
Jan. 16, 2012
neck10
488 posts
I see leo osterday made the list he's been hurt for two yrs had surgery on his ankel & is trying to learn to walk on it again without pain must less be an impact player
Jan. 16, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Hey Guys

I was told years back, long before this List came out “That since I played Major Plus, I could not play AAA. I couldn't drop two levels.
So in my 11 years of senior ball, I feel that this list should include everyone who ever played Major +. There is a lot of Major + players missing from this list. A LOT. They need to throw this list away and start over!

Oh and I'm not interested in playing AAA or AA........ EVER, nothing against base hitters but I like the LONG BALL. JMO
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
This list is for individuals...Playing on a Major+ team does not make you a Major+ player.
Jan. 16, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Apparently it meant that for canjack if you read his post.
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
I know him and his teammates.I read his entire post, not just the part about him. did mean it His post also said that the list should include everyone who ever played Major+.
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Too bad one cannot edit one's post.
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
I know him and his teammates.I read his entire post, not just the part about him. His post also said that the list should include everyone who ever played Major+.
Jan. 16, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
That was his way of saying what is good for the goose(him) is good for the gander(everyone else).
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
I'll have to ask him if he considers every teammate he has ever had while playing Major+ to be an IMPACT PLAYER.
Jan. 16, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
It didn't seem to me like he believes that at all, I think he just wants everyone treated the way he was.

Again, just how I read it.
Jan. 16, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts


The answer is Hell No, salio2k, But the Assoc. says you’re a M+ player when you are on a M+ Team. No matter how good you are.
And the Assoc. rates teams on how many M+ players are on a Team. (Just ask West Coast All Stars)

I would like to start naming guys who I think that should be on this list but they might not want me to throw their names out there....... Nop not going to do it.

There are many Major+ 700 plus hitters, All-tourneys that are not on the list. Ans they would make an impact on a lot of teams.

I just don't Agree with the List that’s all. If there are People missing from the list just here in So Cal, and what about the rest of the Country.
Jan. 16, 2012
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
i think the list being a SPA one will miss a lot of guys who play in cali,that didn't play in SPA tourney's.most of the list is made up of SPA all tourney players and mvp of the tourney's.as of now i have never seen a SSUSA IMPACT LIST persay,tho i know that they have restricted some guys as to where they can play.

also ridge being an ex major player,knows quite a few of the guys and know what they can do....
Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
West Coast ALL STARS! With a name like that, I expected IMPACT type all stars. Is there any other kind? It's ok, Kennard, you're on a good team now.
Jan. 16, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts


Good team now? We'll See.
But remember I had the pleasure of playing for the Mavericks baby for 6 years, and
You better look at that list again; you’ll see a lot of Ex Mavericks on that list.


Mad dog you are probably correct, being that I have played in 4 SPAs. One of the Best Tourney's Play in.

Jan. 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Speaking of Mavericks and Impact players, how abut Bruce Walker? He hasn't played for about three years and would still be an Impact Player although he has a couple of new knees and a shoulder replacement. SSUSA kept him out of softball with the California border rules since he didn't have a Major+ team to play with in his home state.
Jan. 17, 2012
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
In the 2011 SPA rule book concerning impact players, it states that once a player turns 70 they will be removed from the impact player list. The list on the SPA site has nine 70 year old's players named. I wonder if the rules will change in the 2012 rule book?

I thought that the reason for the impact list was to protect lesser skilled players from those players who hit the ball very hard. It's been my pleasure to play with and against quite a few of the listed players and I can tell you that there are a couple of players on the list who, while being great defensive players, couldn't break a pane of glass with a ball that they hit. I think some of the players on the list are there because they have played on M+ teams.
Jan. 17, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
John, I hope to see you in Reno. We are voting on our 2012 tourneys for 2012 this Sunday. Thanks Harry
Jan. 20, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Bruce Walker, Now that was an Impact Player, back when I started SS. He hit some Monster shots while playing for the Mavericks. But he is or was one dimensional to my knowledge. All he did was hit, but man, could he hit. He would hit 300 balls at BP. Yea salio2k that man would have made an impact on any Team he played for.


Jan. 20, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4304 posts
B. Walker, I remember him from my 50's days, He was also one of the better posters here who is amongst the missing.
Last I remember he was coming to CA for a while, I think it was job related a few years back.
Jan. 20, 2012
Tim Millette
476 posts
This spa list was not Based on SPA tourneys.

Three players on our norcal MTC 50 team were placed on the list, and none have played a SPA tourney.

Things SPA should consider....

If your making the list to keep "powerful hitter" out of the lower half of tourney ball,aaa and aa divisions, which makes sence. It should be easy to see who hits the ball harder then you think players in those divisions should.

BUT...... If your making the list to regulate the strength of individual teams, players speed, defense and ability to pitch, etc...... This list is way too short

I think SPA is on the right track if they are making players lists to keep powerful hitter out of the lower level tourneys but..... There are players on the 50 list that have no power at all so.......

If this is an attempt to regulate teams strength, the list is a looooong way from being complete.

The victor of senir games is not decided by homeruns, and it looks like power was over valued on the short list that's been compiled.
Jan. 20, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4304 posts
It's a pretty well known fact that SPA and SSUSAÊshare some info. I think this is some of that.
Your correct about the short list, that's for sure, but at least it's a an updated one from the last one, not that many names have been deleted or added.
And correct too, there is more to being am impact player besides the long ball.
Jan. 22, 2012
Gallardo
16 posts
Vinny Chambers??? guy rakes!
Jan. 22, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Great! I'm glad someone is taking care of the fields.
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