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Feb. 21, 2012
taits
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..... congress, session 2
Since the 'pitch count' as it was called lapsed, here is session 2 with a good commentary & shorter video.
http://restartcongress.org/2012/02/chuck-woolery-looks-to-restart-congress/

It does make a valid point.
Feb. 22, 2012
Webbie25
Men's 60
1995 posts
Interesting-I happened to catch him on the radio yesterday. I heard him say term limits and get rid of the old guard. He does make sense. Kinda close to my vote out the incumbents. Lecak made the comment in the other thread that nobody has an answer because there isn't a good one. That's the conclusion that got me to the 'admittedly unusual' solution of vote them all out.
Feb. 22, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
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Mark, the problem is "solutions" only solve things when they are feasible and realistic. Otherwise they are just rhetoric.
Feb. 22, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4403 posts
For myself term limits is one it the needed components. These 'guys' have only looked out for themselves.
Rhetorical ideas and deeds is all that has come about over the years primarily because they are set in their jobs. They really answer to no one for anything.
Feb. 22, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4403 posts
BTY, a fellow player also sent me that link.
Feb. 22, 2012
frampton
Men's 55
55 posts
California has had term limits for legislators for some years now, and that hasn't exactly worked out great. All it does is give more power to the folks who *finance* political campaigns. As simplistic as it is, I would prefer the "vote out the incumbents" movement to term limits. At least that makes it in the hands of the voters themselves. But, that points out the main issue. Well over 90% of incumbents are re-elected every election. Obviously, that means the voters in those districts prefer their incumbent congressperson. Unless you can convince them to change that, it seems to me you have to admit that the people have the government they deserve.

Feb. 22, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I see the enemy, and he is us.

What percentage of voting-age adults in this country actually bother to vote? VERY small. As a populace we have no one to blame but ourselves for whatever boat you think we are in.
Feb. 22, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4403 posts
Frampton,
Ca left a big loophole in that too. Old man tinkerbell Brown already served his two and likely will do another unless he hopefully dies along the line...
Money has been corrupting the system for about 60 years. This is another loophole that will never get closed because the politicians are corrupt like those supporting them.
Ca is also a state where you do not need to show an Id in order to vote. So who knows who really is.
Feb. 22, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Corruption is far from only in the political arena. Corporate executives are probably as much, if not more so. Corruption appears to be a human trait, not just a political one.
Feb. 22, 2012
E4/E6
Men's 60
855 posts
All grassroot movements/issues start with rhetoric. Some never make it past that point, others like the occupy movements move ahead.

Feb. 22, 2012
lemons
Men's 65
302 posts
Unlimited funding and gerrymandering are two of the major culprits when it comes to "lifetime politicians". Unlimited funds contribute to the 94% reelection stats for incumbents and gerrymandering ensures that districts remain within the chokehold of one party or the other. The good old days refers to when our representatives grudgingly left home to serve in congress and were anxious to return home. Their lives have become far too lucrative. "Vote them all out." Mel
Feb. 22, 2012
cal50
Men's 50
288 posts
JFK once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". The problem in politics today is that too many voters, vote the exact opposite of that.
Feb. 22, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
The problem is barely anyone votes.
Feb. 22, 2012
stick8
1323 posts
Cal50 I agree with you 100%
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