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Discussion: WESTERN WORLDS 2013

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Nov. 14, 2012
Gideon60
Men's 50
42 posts
WESTERN WORLDS 2013
Does anyone know where the western worlds will be held for 2013?
I know they were in vwgas 2012.Will they move?
Nov. 14, 2012
d45
132 posts
If you are talking about the Western Nationals, they were held in Aurora, Co. in 2012. I just heard that they are going back to Sacremento in 2013 even though we had 89 teams our first go at it in 2012. There were nothing but positive comments about the tournament of 2012, but I have no idea why they are going back to Sac. I do, but I won't comment any further.
Nov. 14, 2012
JamesLG
296 posts

If they choose Sacremento I sure hope the fields are in better shape than they were in 2011. The coplex in Aurora was far superior than any field we played at in Sac. The grounds crews were even much more on the ball than in Sac. If they want to move it take it to Lacy WA. and play in another great complex.

Thanks:

James
Nov. 14, 2012
Dbax
Men's 60
1243 posts
Hope it's not true about Sacramento. Aurora was fantastic. Sacramento, not so much. It's a no brainier.
Nov. 14, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
I had heard it was Aurora again, but a couple of weeks later than it was this year. We will see!
Nov. 14, 2012
d45
132 posts
The Western Nationals are absolutely not going to be in Aurora, Co. next year, period.
Nov. 15, 2012
Gideon60
Men's 50
42 posts
matbe i asked the wrong question.Where is this being held next year 2013.SSUSA WORLD MASTERS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Nov. 15, 2012
d45
132 posts
They will be held in Las Vegas.
Nov. 15, 2012
Jawood
Men's 50
788 posts
Play EVERYTHING in Vegas ... only (half) kidding!
Nov. 19, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
d45: Don't know who you are as no name or info was registered.

I heard from a Scrap Iron veteran that it could be in Aurora if the capital is raised to secure the fields. Evidently, $ has to go to SSUSA and to Aurora. I was impressed with the complex, the condition of the fields and the organized manner in which Scrap Iron and SSUSA ran the tournament.
Thanks,
Ed Andrews
Nov. 19, 2012
Webbie25
Men's 60
1953 posts
I loved the Aurora complex and going to Denver. Why wouldn't they do it there again?
Nov. 19, 2012
Brock
Men's 65
46 posts
Just so there is no misunderstanding, I'm the "Scrap Iron veteran" that Surf 88 is referring to because I talked to him in Phoenix last week while playing with Rusty's. What he's saying is true for 2014 but it is my understanding the Western Nationals will be in Sacramento in 2013.

I worked three years to get the Western Nationals in Aurora before it happened so I'm obviously disappointed that it won't be there in 2013. However, the tourism board in Aurora knows what monies they need to raise and our contact for SS USA and myself, has promised to try to find those funds for 2014. Personally, I would like to find a permanent home for the Western Nationals and Terry H has mentioned several times that Aurora has the potential to grow to 140 to 150 teams based on this year's turnout. After all, Aurora is as centrally located for the Western Nationals as anywhere west of the Mississippi River. My concern is how do you assure the tournament staying there when you have to bid or match a bid every year? To me if a tournament will draw 140 to 150 teams versus somewhere that has the high bid but only draws 90 teams or so, that should be the driving force, not who is offering at least the minimum bid. 50% more teams at $550 more than makes up what the additional expenses will be.

My aim is to try to get them back in 2014 but in the meantime, SS USA is planning a new TOC qualifier at the same fields in Aurora called the Rocky Mountain Championships. Our hope is that many of the teams that played in Aurora this year will want to come back to this 12 field, well maintained complex and bring your friends with you. You can do a whole lot worse than coming to the Denver/Aurora area in mid summer. Who knows? maybe the Rocky Mountain Championships can grow but I have my doubts when there must be close to 10 similar type tournaments around the country already but I'm hoping for the best in 2013 and that we have a shot at getting the Western Nationals back in 2014.

Thanks for your support....Greg Broeckelman
Nov. 19, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
Western Natls: They have held it in Yolo county, Roseville area and west of there (Sac), before but they also hold the Cal Cup about the same time...so it could get confusing should they have both.
Both are good events with some good parks\fields, but not all of them.
Nov. 19, 2012
JBTexas
Men's 60
259 posts
Very disappointed Westerns National won't be in Aurora, had a great time this year plus one of the easiest in and out(airport) that we attended this year. Don't know if we will go to Sac town, as we will go to the Rock N Reno in May.
Nov. 20, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
I realize SSUSA is a corporate entity with profit as an important ingredient. It has to be part of the equation of course. That said, in my humble opinion, Aurora is the better choice for Western Nationals. The location makes it a reasonable choice for the eastern teams to get to and during that time of year, the temperatures are a bit milder than most of the major cities and especially milder than Sacramento in Northern California.

I was most impressed with the Aurora Complex and it was amazingly close to the Denver International Airport. From the standpoint of a businessman, it simply is a no brainer. After thought and consideration, if you agree with this opinion, write Terry Hennessy and share your opinion with him. Help to get this tournament back on track in Aurora, Colorado. Speak out seniors.
Dec. 1, 2012
local
123 posts
When are dates and location for Westerns going to be decided?, Aurora was great. Another great complex is the RAC in Lacey WA. Weather is perfect that time of the year.
Dec. 2, 2012
Allan55
79 posts
Surf88, There is now a Rocky Mountain TOC qualifier in Aurora, CO. You got your wish of playing at the Aurora complex. I think the SSUSA does a good job of moving the Western National around to accommodate teams that can't afford to do much traveling.
Dec. 4, 2012
Allan55
79 posts
d45,

You are correct regarding the Western National. The Western National was posted yesterday. It will be in Sacramento, CA.

d45,

The Western Nat. drew 91 teams when it was in Yolo, CA in 2011. I will be curious to see how many teams play is the Western this year. I think it will top 100 teams.

JamesLG,

The complex in Lacy, WA might be nice, however, in 2010 the tourney only drew 51 teams.
Dec. 4, 2012
Allan55
79 posts
d45,

You are correct regarding the Western National. The Western National was posted yesterday. It will be in Sacramento, CA.

d45,

The Western Nat. drew 91 teams when it was in Yolo, CA in 2011. I will be curious to see how many teams play is the Western this year. I think it will top 100 teams.

JamesLG,

The complex in Lacy, WA might be nice, however, in 2010 the tourney only drew 51 teams.
Dec. 4, 2012
ffdonnie
Men's 50
90 posts
Brock hows the weather there in Aug?
We were thinking of adding this stop when we thought it was the Westerns. We still might make it though just to go somewhere different. Sacramento is not a nice place in July-Aug.
Dec. 5, 2012
Brock
Men's 65
46 posts
See above post by me. Like I said "you can do a whole lot worse than coming to the Denver/Aurora area in mid-summer". All teams that came last year were very pleased and it was hot then. Low 90s but there's very little humidity. I figured with the California State Championships and the Western Worlds in CA this summer that we wouldn't be able to expect many CA teams coming back to Denver/Aurora in 2013 so this is a good sign. If you weren't here last year you'll be very pleased if you come in 2013. The weather for playing ball is about as good as anywhere in the country and you'll marvel at the fields in this 12 field complex. Everybody will be playing at the same time on a 12 field complex so no travel to another complex to see your buddies play. The hotels and airport are close. As you can see from other comments here, people loved coming here last year. Welcome and bring your friends.
Dec. 5, 2012
Brock
Men's 65
46 posts
To Allan55 - You're correct that the Western Nationals drew 91 teams at Yolo County in 2011. Aurora drew 89 in 2012 or at least 30 more than SS USA was expecting. The difference was that 68 of the 91 teams or 75% were all from CA in 2011 and most of the rest were from WA and OR with a few Scrap Iron teams from CO whereas Aurora's 89 were spread from all over west of the Mississippi River including about 20 teams from CA, a more representative sample of teams for this tournament.

I wish you the best for the 2013 Western Nationals but I hope it doesn't look like a second California Cup like it did in Yolo County. I realize all teams west of the Mississippi can come to the Western Worlds in CA but the fact of the matter is that Aurora with their 12 field well maintained complex will draw a better representative sample of teams for the Western Nationals than CA will. I think that's what the Western Nationals are supposed to be about. Terry H and I have had this very conversation but the fact of the matter is that Aurora didn't come up with enough money to keep it there in 2013. Hopefully, 2014 will be a different story.
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